posted September 02, 2012 10:13 PM            

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I’ve just started taking more of an interest in The Black Moon Lilith, and here’s the impression that I’ve got so far…

The Black Moon is the apogee of the Moons orbit, the point that is farthest from the earth. While the Moon itself represents something safe and familiar that gives us a feeling of security, the point of orbit for the Moon that is farthest form the earth itself (The Black Moon Lilith) is more like an anti-Moon… And opposite to the Moon in symbolism in many ways… It represents something dark, scary, and unknown but also fascinating.

In terms of image for women, the Moon represents what type of girl feels safe, familiar, nurturing, and vulnerable to a guy… Basically the good girl that he can trust, wants to marry, and protect and take care of… The girl who will (in theory) respect, and look up to him… The Moon supports the Sun and follows his lead… She is the Mother/Wife archetype…. Trusted, known, safe, innocent… (Now if a guy has a challenged Moon, his idea of what feels ‘safe’ and ‘familiar’ about a girl might be messed up… But that’s a whole other thread).

Lilith is the opposite… The women who is unfathomable, dangerous, rebellious and sexual… Here rather then the Wife/Mother (Moon), or even the Beautiful Maiden/Girlfriend (Venus)… You have the mistress, the forbidden lover, the hooker, the ’bad girl’, and the manipulative witchy vixen…. A women who’s unpredictable, mysterious, and probably into something dark or taboo… Like black magic… She might be a scandalous b!tch… And yet she has an unattainable kind of allure about her… She’s like a guilty pleasure….

In terms of women’s roles… The Moon is the girl a guy wants to protect, Venus is the fair beauty the he goes wild for, Neptune is ethereal glamour ideal that enchants him… And if the Lilith does say something about a guys taste in women, it probably relates to what type of girl is like a secret guilty pleasure for him… Bewitching but dangerous or unattainable somehow.

Ha ha. There are few songs that come to mind right now in relation to The Black Moon Lilith energy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAJxOU13SKk
All American Rejects - ‘Dirty Little Secret’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9qeJskx6r0
Black Sabbath - ‘Evil Women’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkKxGzm98AU
Edwyn Collins - 'A Girl Like You'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMAo0m4E4Lc
Atlanta Rhythm Section - Spooky (This version is sung by men which seems more appropriate then the Dusty Springfield one)

If you have Lilith synastry with someone it makes sense that in a way the Lilith person would seem like a dark temptation to the planet person.

When someone aspects your Lilith they 'activate' this side of you, and they can pick up on the energy you're giving off... On the other hand... When you aspect someone else's Lilith you 'activate' this energy for them, so their planet/point may effect you in a Lilith kind of way...

I don't think Lilith always refers to the mistress (but she definitely can), so much as she seems to refer to a women who is darkly attractive but also unattainable... Or even just a women with a creepy, spooky vibe about her... She makes him suspicious, she keeps him on his toes, and he wonders what she's thinking. She's exciting and dosen't reveal all her secrets. And he may find her tempting on an erotic level.

My thoughts are that when a guy has his Lilith aspected in synastry it contributes to him finding her intriguing, and erotically exciting. And that when a women has her Lilith aspected she tends to act out this type of role for him... So regardless of who has their Lilith aspected it would create a similar effect. Unless, of course, the male in the relationship takes on a Lilith role... In which case, he may seem difficult to figure out and yet frustratingly attractive at the same time.

In each relationship depending on the rest on the synastry, and where the individual people are at, we need to use our own observation and common sense to figure out exactly how the energy is playing out.

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posted September 02, 2012 10:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Wow - this was very useful, more so than anything I've read on the net. Thank you!!!

(And the fact that you noted Edwyn Collins is extremely cool, too! )

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posted September 03, 2012 12:03 AM            

All I can think of is Lilith the Vampire goddess in the new season of True Blood - she pretty much epitomizes the symbolism, with that being said - how does it play out in a man's chart? Like I just looked up my synastry with my bf and his BML is conjunct his Sun in Taurus - does he possess the dark feminine? I don't think so.

posted September 03, 2012 09:08 AM            

I hope you don´t mind if I give some links here from old BML threads.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000731.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001146.html

posted September 08, 2012 08:30 PM            

my Lilith conjunct his Moon
my Lilith sextile his Sun
his Lilith opp my Venus
his Lilith opp my Pluto

composite Lilith conjunct my Moon
composite Lilith sextile my Sun
composite Lilith opp his Venus
my Lilith conjunct composite Pluto
my Lilith conjunct composite Juno
his Lilith trine composite Moon
his Lilith opp composite Sun

„she seems to refer to a women who is darkly attractive but also unattainable... Or even just a women with a creepy, spooky vibe about her”

This sentence actually made me reply to this thread because you gave such an accurate description of Lilith. One of my friends caught him looking at me intently and heard him say „I don’t know... there’s something strange about her... like an otherworldy vibe”. So yeah, I’m spooky to him.

„My thoughts are that when a guy has his Lilith aspected in synastry it contributes to him finding her intriguing, and erotically exciting. And that when a women has her Lilith aspected she tends to act out this type of role for him”

Again, very true. Because of all the Lilith connections, we both obsessed about each other and started to encourage each other to continue playing our intriguing and erotic roles. It is a very twisted connection. To me, he feels unattainable. To him, I’m tempting but a little too dark for a healthy relationship.

posted September 14, 2012 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Karmic Soul:
Came across this aspect & it piqued my interest - Black Moon Lilith falls in partner's 7th house (double whammy)... Have any thoughts on this aspect being either good or not so good?

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Welcome Karmic Soul

I don't go by just falling in houses, so to speak. I would look for exact to 2 degree conjunctions. I would go as far as 3 degrees. For other aspects( trines etc), I would use a smaller orb( up to 2 degrees)

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posted September 14, 2012 07:31 PM            

Ok, so here's what I found. I think the Capricorn set fits your specs but not sure about the Pisces set. I'm still green when it comes to the orb/degree thing....

Woman - Pisces Desc. 0 44' 45"
Man - Pisces BML 28 57'17"

posted September 16, 2012 06:41 PM            

Hi, You said your Lilith was conj. his moon. I'm seeing a woman whose Mean Lilith is conjunct my moon. I'm curious how that feels from the female's perspective... can you say more about how find yourself responding to him, generally and/or concretely?

I'm trying to determine which Lilith to go w/in my synastry w/the woman I'm seeing. Usually I just use True Lilith.
If the birth time she gave me was correct, even w/in 15 min either way (and it seems to fit) then her true Lilith is at 13'55" Virgo and conj. my Mars (Booyah!!) and trine my Sun and Midheaven.

Her mean Lilith, however, is 26'11" Virgo, Which is conjunct my Saturn and My Moon...
I'd never seen the two THAT far apart!

I think I'm gonna start a seperate thread about the distance between true and mean Liliths but anyway...
Just wondering what a BML conj. Moon feels like.

Thanx!

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posted June 03, 2013 05:23 PM            

tips on getting him out of my head?

posted August 12, 2013 06:31 AM            

I have noticed something about BML in synastry and would like to know if it rings true for others or not.

>> The planet person is enthralled by the BML person, not the other way around.
The BML person "activates" said planet and turns it into a more intense, obsessive manifestation.

posted August 12, 2013 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Ręve:
Bumping this.

I have noticed something about BML in synastry and would like to know if it rings true for others or not.

>> The planet person is enthralled by the BML person, not the other way around.
The BML person "activates" said planet and turns it into a more intense, obsessive manifestation.

What do you guys think?

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No, I've seen it work both ways, same as in a lot of these who-acts-on-who scenarios.

posted August 12, 2013 04:03 PM            

I have many lilith aspects with my ex-husband, including my Sun conjunct his Lilith. He is STILL obsessed.

In the synastry with the person that I have been seeing as of late, My lilith is conjunct ALL but one of his major planets, and then some, and I am definitely the one feeling obsession. Not sure if it's mutual however.

posted August 16, 2013 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Ręve:
Bumping this.

I have noticed something about BML in synastry and would like to know if it rings true for others or not.

>> The planet person is enthralled by the BML person, not the other way around.
The BML person "activates" said planet and turns it into a more intense, obsessive manifestation.

What do you guys think?

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posted July 02, 2015 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by cultstatus:
I just want to put my two cents worth in now that I've had some perspective on my experience with a full on Lilith heavy synastry.

I am now terrified of Lilith! I acted SO out of character. I could not control myself. I'm talking constant drunk calls, demanding his secrets, manipulative behaviour. It was a totally weird experience that I do not wish to relive. Yeah there was insane chemistry but I did not like how it manifested one bit.

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who was Lilith in this scenario?