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Topic: Amazonian Figures
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ail221 Moderator Posts: 7047 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 07:48 PM
Do you have any amazons in your chart? 175 Andromache ANDROMACHE 'man fighter'
One of the greatest of all the queens of the Thermodontine Amazons. Known for her bravery, she was consistently victorious in battle. Ruling with Glauke 'owl,' and Iphito 'shield strength' whom she also fought with side by side, her most famous conflict was with a horde of Greek pirates. The battle was later known as the First Doric Raid. Andromache successfully united the Thermodontine and Libyan Amazons against the invaders, resulting in a Libyan blockade that prevented the arrival of Greek reinforcements. At the height of the battle, she fought with her hair unbound, insuring that she remained a clear rallying point for her forces, and that no false claims could be made that she had died. 372 Palma/ Andromeda Galaxy Transit 10295 Hippolyta: Queen of amazons 90 Antiope- married Theseus, the only amazon to leave the amazons for marriage 133 Cyrene(xena) Amazon queen 107 Camilla-little comb,' fiery one,' 'drinking vessel' Great ancestress of the Volscians of ancient Latium, an Amazon queen who was suckled by a mare and grew into a great hunter and runner. Fighting bare breasted and loose haired in the grand tradition of successful Amazon leaders, her honour guard included Larina, Tulla, Tarpeia, and Opis (all named for demoted Goddesses). She led the fight against the invaders led by Aeneas. 48 Doris-Amazon Warrior 'bountiful' spear wielder 156 Xanthippe 'yellow horse' sabrer Amazon Warrior 271 Penthesilea 'compelling men to mourn' Queen of Amazons sister of Hippolyta Daughter of Kleite or Orithia, ruler of the Thermodontine Amazons with her sister Hippolyta and Antianeira, who eventually succeeded her. She had Thrakian roots, and this along with a call for help from the besieged queen of Troy led her to lead a small force to the city's aid. The Amazons temporarily freed the city, and Penthesilea killed Achilles, leader of the Myrmidonian Greeks. Contrary to some claims, he was not brought back to life again. He was named for a mythological figure representing the half of the year when the Sun waxes, while Agamemnon fills in for the waning Sun. They dueled in order to show off their skills to the Moon Goddess Briseis. Of course she chose the waxing Sun at Winter Solstice and the waning Sun at Summer Solstice. The tale was grafted into the story of the fall of Troy. In any case, the next battle led to Troy's defeat. Penthesilea was killed by treachery, stabbed in the back by one of the infamous priests of Apollo who had betrayed the city. Again contrary to popular belief, Penthesilea was not part of last flair of greatness from a dying Nation. Homeric Troy fell around 1200 BCE, a full six centuries before the official political demise of the Northern Amazon Nation. What she probably does represent is the beginning of the retreat of Goddess worshiping peoples in Asia Minor in the face of continuing violence from invaders. IP: Logged |
Gray Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 14, 2012 10:56 AM
Not really. The closest ones are Andromache four degrees away from my ascendant, and Camilla conjunct my Vertex by 2 degrees.IP: Logged |
ueharaa Knowflake Posts: 784 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 14, 2012 11:12 AM
I have Andromache conjunct Xanthippe. Both trine my Sun and square my Mars and quincunx my Venus with a less than 1° orb. I also have Palma opposite Mars and Penthesilea conjunct Mars (2° orb)IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68771 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 14, 2012 11:15 AM
Interesting info. Thanks so much ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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ueharaa Knowflake Posts: 784 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 14, 2012 11:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Interesting info. Thanks so much
I forgot to add this but this was really interesting ,I didn't know any of those stories and amazonian figures. IP: Logged |
Jovian Knowflake Posts: 600 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted September 14, 2012 11:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by ueharaa: I have Andromache conjunct Xanthippe. Both trine my Sun and square my Mars and quincunx my Venus with a less than 1° orb. I also have Palma opposite Mars and Penthesilea conjunct Mars (2° orb)
I'd be interested to know if you had previously felt drawn to the story/myth/theme of the Amazons. Oops: Well, I see now you mentioned you didn't know of these. It IS very interesting. I also didn't know there were so many individual figures with distinct stories. But what made you look at them in your chart? IP: Logged |
Jovian Knowflake Posts: 600 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted September 14, 2012 11:33 AM
The Amazon asteroid list, to copy and paste:175, 372, 10295, 90, 133, 107, 48, 156, 271
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Jovian Knowflake Posts: 600 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted September 14, 2012 11:58 AM
Yes, thanks so much, Ail. These are filling in a lot of 'bald spots' in my chart.It is definitely intriguing. Though occasionally I've seen something on Amazons on The History Channel or something, it makes me annoyed that all of this is still not part of our general "mythical"/ historical knowledge-base. I mean--look at those stories! ...Something to look forward to, we can hope. Hippolyta CONJ Mercury (<1) Hippolyta CONJ Galactic Center (<1)
Antiope CONJ Venus (<1) Antiope CONJ Union (<2) (The only one to get married -- ha!) Xanthippe TRI Venus (<1) Palma SEXT Sun (<1) Penthesilea OPP Mercury (<1) (Interesting. I've often felt an old theme for me is having been stabbed in the back, somewhere long ago, by someone I trusted. I've had to consistently work on that one, as it then repeated in later lifetimes.) Hippolyta OPP Penthesilea (<1) Cyrene CONJ Penthesilea (<2) Cyrene OPP Mercury (<2) Andromache CONJ Moon (<3) ...Fascinating!
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29305 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 14, 2012 12:01 PM
Andromache conjunct my ASC and Atlantis, Neptune and NN (conjunction to Atlantis is exact; to ASC-Angel one degree). PENTHESILEA falls on my Stellium of asteroid on 1 Cap (Vesta-Knight-Sinbad-Stonehenge etc.)
CYRENE exactly conjunct my Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp
CAMILLA on 26 Virgo and XANTHIPPE on 26 Aries (HYGIEA on 25 Aries) make a Grand trine with my Sun/Mercury-conjunction on 26 Sag, right on the GC.
HYPPOLITA exactly conjunct PALLAS and being part of that minor talent triangle, of PALLAS/Hyppolita trine Pluto and both sextile my ASC/Angel/Atlantis/NN/Neptune
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ueharaa Knowflake Posts: 784 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 14, 2012 12:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jovian: I'd be interested to know if you had previously felt drawn to the story/myth/theme of the Amazons.Oops: Well, I see now you mentioned you didn't know of these. It IS very interesting. I also didn't know there were so many individual figures with distinct stories. But what made you look at them in your chart?
What I knew about Amazones was how they treated men in their "society", that they would sometimes harm them so they could make them their slaves. I admit to have always been sort of amazed at this myth. How first of all they cut one of their breast (breast being a femininity symbol) and how they rely on themselves to protect their land and fight. I don't admire their aggressiveness that much but the fact that they're independent to the point where they only need men to reproduce has always amazed me. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 5190 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 14, 2012 12:27 PM
Wow, most of these asteroids are in Scorpio/Pisces, and I'm a Scorpio (23) with Pisces moon (7) and Pisces ASC (21). Andromache (Scorpio 18) conjuncts Sun 5d conjuncts Mars-Pluto 2d trines ASC 3d *conjuncts Palma 2d *trines Penthesilea 1d *sextiles Doris 1d *squares Xanthippe 2d Palma (Scorpio 16) conjuncts Mars-Pluto 4d trines ASC 5d *trines Penthesilea 3d *sextiles Doris 3d *squares Xanthippe 0d Hippolyta (Pisces 10) conjuncts Moon 3d opposies Jupiter 1d sextile Uranus 1d sextile NN 1d *conjuncts Cyrene 1d *conjuncts Camilla 3d Cyrene (Pisces 11) conjuncts Moon 4d opposites Jupiter 0d sextile Uranus 0d sextile NN 0d *conjuncts Camilla 2d Camilla (Pisces 13) opposies Jupiter 1d sextiles NN 2d Penthesilea (Pisces 19) trines Sun 4d trines Mars-Pluto 1d conjuncts ASC 3d *opposies Doris 0d Doris (Virgo 19) sextiles Sun 4d sextiles Mars-Pluto 1d conjuncts DESC 3d IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7047 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 14, 2012 01:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by ueharaa: What I knew about Amazones was how they treated men in their "society", that they would sometimes harm them so they could make them their slaves. I admit to have always been sort of amazed at this myth. How first of all they cut one of their breast (breast being a femininity symbol) and how they rely on themselves to protect their land and fight. I don't admire their aggressiveness that much but the fact that they're independent to the point where they only need men to reproduce has always amazed me.
I personally love their fierce independence, not all amazons mutilated their bodies or treated men as slaves but men were banished from their land aside for reproduction. Plus just as greece was divided into city-states, so were the Amazonian tribes. IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7047 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 14, 2012 02:13 PM
Hippolyta in Cancer 3rd house Conjunct Sun Square Mars and Vertex Opposite North Node and Camilla Trine BML and Cyrene Sextile Xanthippe, ASC,Eros & Psyche Palma in Leo 4rd house Conjunct Mercury & Ceres Square Juno Sextile Doris Opposite North Node Trine Penthesilea
Xanthippe in Virgo 5th house Sextile Sun, Jupiter, BML, Hippolyta, Cyrene Square Venus, Antiope and Penthesilea Trine Saturn, Camilla and Asc Penthesilea in Sagittarius 7th house Opposite Antiope Bi-Quintile Sun Doris in Gemini 1st house Trine North Node and MC Camilla in Capricorn 9th house Opposite Sun, Jupiter, Chiron Conjunct Saturn Square Vertex Sextile BML and Cyrene Cyrene in Scorpio 6th house Trine Sun and Jupiter Sextile BML Quintile North Node Opposite Asc Antiope In Gemini 1st house Trine Vertex Andromache in Virgo 5th house Sextile Juno and Pallas Trine Mars and Uranus Square Moon inconjunct North Node
Well basically this explains my defiant nature around men in general IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7047 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 10:18 AM
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SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2438 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 03:51 PM
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StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 07:34 PM
Hippolyta conjunct DNA by less than a degree Hipoplyta conjunct Queen by 1 degree Hippolyta conjunct King by 3 degrees Queen conjunct DNA by 1 degree King conjunct DNA by 3 degrees King and Queen conjunct by 2 degrees Merman is in that DNA-stellium too somewhere. I found out shortly before that my ancestor's family crest has two mermaids on it.These are all opposed by Neptune and the Galactic Center - iQ said something to me once about it meaning being a 'vessel of Light' or something via genetics. IP: Logged |
inaworldofsong Knowflake Posts: 253 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 14, 2013 01:43 AM
Andromache square Venus (by 40') and Ascendant (1-2*)Palma sextile MC (exact) Hippolyta opposite Moon and Cyrene (1*) Antiope quintile Ascendant (exact) Cyrene conjunct Moon (exact) Cyrene opposite Hippolyta Cyrene sextile Sun (2*) Camilla conjunct Xanthippe (2*) Camilla trine Doris (1.5*) Camilla square MC (2*) Doris quintile Sun (~1*) Doris biquintile Chiron (exact) Doris trine Xanthippe (exact) Doris semisextile MC (exact) Xanthippe conjunct Camilla Xanthippe trine Doris Xanthippe square MC (exact) Penthesilea conjunct NN (1*) IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted January 17, 2013 11:17 AM
I would personally associate Xanthippe more with Socrates and his wife, but that may be because mine are 2 deg conjunct. As for the Amazon asteroids, the closest to any planets are Camilla conj Pluto and Hippolyta conj Mars. Camilla conj Sekhmet as well for more potential Fierce or fieriness. Both sext ASC
Antiope under 1,5 d conj Venus (exact with Kaali) Doris conj Haumea Palma opp Queen's Penthesileia conj King-Jason-Machiavelli All OPP Amazone-House-Goodman
I remember Penthesileia's myth differently in that she was killed by Achilles, but assume that as usual there are several versions running around. What's that about Palma, too? The text doesn't make it clear what the Andromeda-galaxy thing with it is supposed to be.
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quote: Originally posted by ail221: Do you have any amazons in your chart? 175 Andromache ANDROMACHE 'man fighter' One of the greatest of all the queens of the Thermodontine Amazons. Known for her bravery, she was consistently victorious in battle. Ruling with Glauke 'owl,' and Iphito 'shield strength' whom she also fought with side by side, her most famous conflict was with a horde of Greek pirates. The battle was later known as the First Doric Raid. Andromache successfully united the Thermodontine and Libyan Amazons against the invaders, resulting in a Libyan blockade that prevented the arrival of Greek reinforcements. At the height of the battle, she fought with her hair unbound, insuring that she remained a clear rallying point for her forces, and that no false claims could be made that she had died.
372 Palma/ Andromeda Galaxy Transit 10295 Hippolyta: queen of amazons 90 antiope- married theseus, the only amazon to leave the amazons for marriage 133 Cyrene(xena) amazon queen 107 Camilla-little comb,' fiery one,' 'drinking vessel' Great ancestress of the Volscians of ancient Latium, an Amazon queen who was suckled by a mare and grew into a great hunter and runner. Fighting bare breasted and loose haired in the grand tradition of successful Amazon leaders, her honour guard included Larina, Tulla, Tarpeia, and Opis (all named for demoted Goddesses). She led the fight against the invaders led by Aeneas. 48 Doris-Amazon Warriot 'bountiful' spearwielder 156 Xanthippe 'yellow horse' sabrer Amazon Warrior 271 Penthesilea'compelling men to mourn' Queen of Amazons sister of hippolyta Daughter of Kleite or Orithia, ruler of the Thermodontine Amazons with her sister Hippolyta and Antianeira, who eventually succeeded her. She had Thrakian roots, and this along with a call for help from the besieged queen of Troy led her to lead a small force to the city's aid. The Amazons temporarily freed the city, and Penthesilea killed Achilles, leader of the Myrmidonian Greeks. Contrary to some claims, he was not brought back to life again. He was named for a mythological figure representing the half of the year when the Sun waxes, while Agamemnon fills in for the waning Sun. They dueled in order to show off their skills to the Moon Goddess Briseis. Of course she chose the waxing Sun at Winter Solstice and the waning Sun at Summer Solstice. The tale was grafted into the story of the fall of Troy. In any case, the next battle led to Troy's defeat. Penthesilea was killed by treachery, stabbed in the back by one of the infamous priests of Apollo who had betrayed the city. Again contrary to popular belief, Penthesilea was not part of last flair of greatness from a dying Nation. Homeric Troy fell around 1200 BCE, a full six centuries before the official political demise of the Northern Amazon Nation. What she probably does represent is the beginning of the retreat of Goddess worshipping peoples in Asia Minor in the face of continuing violence from invaders.
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SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2438 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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ail221 Moderator Posts: 7047 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 10:58 AM
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8899 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 12:47 PM
So odd....I was just referencing your thread yesterday. I looked at it today when I saw it bumped, I wondered if I'd bumped it and totally forgot! Lol We must be in the same wavelength right now! IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7047 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 09:44 PM
Sorta the Trojan war was on my mind.IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 6446 From: LURKING Registered: May 2011
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posted August 31, 2014 10:43 PM
Camilia square Sun Doris square Ascendant Andromache conjunct Ascendant*shrugs* IP: Logged |
ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 1125 From: Elysium Registered: Jul 2013
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posted September 01, 2014 01:12 AM
I love female warriors and powerful women in mythology and history. Antiope conjunct Sun, Pallas, MC, Aldeberan at 9th/10th house cusp in gemini Doris conjunct Mercury in 9th in Taurus Xanthippe conjunct moon, regulus in 12th in Virgo Andromache conjunct moon, regulus, Xanthippe in 12th in Leo Penthesllia conjunct Galactic Center in 4th house in Sag. Camilla conjunct Saturn in 5th house in capricorn Cyrene trine Mars and Palma. Hipployta conjunct jupiter, Sirius, DNA(might be wide due to 6 degree orb) in 10th house in cancer. I'm thinking I'm a strong person. :shrugs IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 03, 2014 06:40 PM
Oops. Never mind.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |