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Jovian
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posted September 25, 2012 05:39 AM
  
...Actually, I wanted to say Women Being B*tchy, but I thought that was too crass for the title. I'm really not one to throw such crude terms around, but holy cow! I just got home from my night job, and two different women seemed to have it in for me tonight. It was really out of the blue, and something rare for me to experience.As well, there was an email from my stepsister, frantically wanting advice on how to deal with my mother, as they are apparently not understanding each other well right now. So, casting a chart for several hours ago, here are transits in the sky that were exact. Some certainly may not be relevant. Lilith OPP Juno (<1)
Lilith TRI Moon (<1 when the first episode happened)
Nessus TRI Vesta (<1)
Nessus SQ Sedna (<1)
Juno TRI Pallas (<1)
Sun OPP Pallas (<1) (These two are also CONJ IC/ MC by 2) Mars OPP Sedna/ Mars SQ Nessus (<2) (T-square)
Transits to my natal:
Moon SQ Sedna
Lilith CONJ Saturn (<1)
Sun CONJ Pluto (<1)
Venus CONJ Ceres (<1) And, that T. Lilith-Juno Opposition conjuncts my Neptune-Saturn Opposition... Ouch. That may be the kicker here.
...Anybody else having trouble with women today? Or being troublesome yourself? 
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posted September 25, 2012 06:38 AM
Interesting, Jovian. Thanks  ------------------
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Jovian
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posted September 25, 2012 12:14 PM
Hi Ami! ...Well, that's me trying out being more "airy" and not so serious--exercise that Gemini Descendant I've "rejected."  When such themes seem to be "in the air" it does pique my astrological interest. I really felt "tag-teamed" by the universe. Now I see why. IP: Logged |
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posted September 25, 2012 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Jovian:
Hi Ami! ...Well, that's me trying out being more "airy" and not so serious--exercise that Gemini Descendant I've "rejected." When such themes seem to be "in the air" it does pique my astrological interest. I really felt "tag-teamed" by the universe. Now I see why.
Hi ladies!! 
What time exactly did run your chart....?
Because ive been actually having women who have been rude in the past come back and apologize? The woman i've been waiting on to be able to move forward with work, finally after months is ready to get the deal going! Shes always been cold ad rude and suddenly shes being so polite and getting everything inline very quickly?
Then my grandma(whos Jehovah Witness, not supposed to associate with me since i left religion) she called and wants to see me, says she believes i need family and love should mean more than religion,OMG?
Then,my mom called and thanked me for something...weird!
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Gabby
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posted September 25, 2012 02:15 PM
You know, i actually think Lilith(from looking at it in my chart) has a good affect on me!
Looking at her history, she struck out on her own, she is angry and inspired by injustice and control of women.
I think she gave me much courage and when i have allowed myself to expressed anger from being treated cruel, and do something about it, everyone starts adjusting to me instead of me bleeding myself for everyone else...
it seems i get respect and move out of the victim role when i express her energy...
But much of my challenge, as you said in another thread, is accepting the energy of my Aries DC! Interestingly, my blackmoon lilith is aries@2.50...a couple degrees before my 7th!
She forms a grand fire trine
Aries Lilith@2.50-6th
Leo Saturn@2.50-10th
Saggy Merc@3.45-2nd
Saggy Sun@4.35
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Gabby
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posted September 25, 2012 02:29 PM
Hey, pluto is a degree from my IC? Wow plutos about to transit my 4th house....wow!Do you look at all the lilth's asteriod lilith(1181), h13,h21, or just BM lilith? I just ran all these in my progressed chart, they are all in my aries 7th house and BM lilith is exactly on my DC! Transit uranus is to!
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Gabby
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posted September 25, 2012 02:35 PM
How do you react to these women, do you ignore it or react?
I've found if im humble, i get beat up more!
I wonder if your being tested, your breaking through some walls right now...maybe lilith is testing you? To see if you really are embracing her energy and not letting ppl step on you anymore?
I do believe with liliths nature, if you don't allow her energy to flow in a positive way, if you try to deny or block her energy she will not go down, she will send energy that attracts combative ppl to you, like you become a target, and she will continue doing this until you embrace her and stand up for yourself....then she settles down and you start to see her positive energy, respect and appreciation come your way! Positives start happening, its like your rewarded for protecting yourself!
She is all about "Woman Power" she gets p*ssed when we don't respect ourselves, because she is the "fight for the right of the under dog" energy! That includes respect for yourself and she hates it and torments the ppl who martyr themselves, its like a slap in her face! She has no respect for them unless they fight and change it! She is the force that makes or breaks, she forces you to stand up to your demons, and will continue throwing crap at you until you do...she's the reason most victims stay victims, she makes sure of it because she will keep testing you...trying to get you to respect everything she stands for. They say in a mans chart it shows where they will have a battle with women...i believe if they would just accept, back down and respect womens power in this area the battle would end and the appreciation from her would flow to them, easing the stress and getting respect themselves. IP: Logged |
Jovian
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posted September 25, 2012 03:00 PM
Wow...you are having some interesting things in relation to women, as well!In addition to the current transits happening with Lilith opposing Juno, you also see that Pallas is positively aspecting those two...so healing possible? ...I also just got off the phone with my stepsister, re: the conversation about my mother. We had a good talk, that left her feeling much better, despite that our personalities are literally opposite. That thing with your grandmother--wow!! Yes, I wonder if part of that isn't the Pluto, which looks like it has actually been rolling back and forth for a few months now, stepping in and out of that 4th house...coming to help with deep transformation/healing in the 4th/ family roots. But really, wow--you've got a lot of conjunctions right now. When did these conversations happen for you?? Look at Pallas exactly on that Lilith you are now noticing! Hello--healing. Ceres is on your Mars...and incidentally, Mars is on your Chiron at the moment. Mercury is just passing your Pluto. I included Eris, and it looks like it's been hanging around your Vertex for a few months. Any idea what that could feel like? It will move on to your Chiron. Saturn has been opposing those two--Vertex and Chiron. Just throwing some things out there, for you to possibly make sense of.
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posted September 25, 2012 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by Jovian:
Wow...you are having some interesting things in relation to women, as well!In addition to the current transits happening with Lilith opposing Juno, you also see that Pallas is positively aspecting those two...so healing possible? ...I also just got off the phone with my stepsister, re: the conversation about my mother. We had a good talk, that left her feeling much better, despite that our personalities are literally opposite. That thing with your grandmother--wow!! Yes, I wonder if part of that isn't the Pluto, which looks like it has actually been rolling back and forth for a few months now, stepping in and out of that 4th house...coming to help with deep transformation/healing in the 4th/ family roots. But really, wow--you've got a lot of conjunctions right now. When did these conversations happen for you?? Look at Pallas exactly on that Lilith you are now noticing! Hello--healing. Ceres is on your Mars...and incidentally, Mars is on your Chiron at the moment. Mercury is just passing your Pluto. I included Eris, and it looks like it's been hanging around your Vertex for a few months. Any idea what that could feel like? It will move on to your Chiron. Saturn has been opposing those two--Vertex and Chiron. Just throwing some things out there, for you to possibly make sense of.
Wow, thanks for looking at all those!!
I'm going to have a look at your chart...to see what things stand out to me, using all my strange asteroids that i love so much!! I don't know about eris, id have to look at her story again..can't remember what it is about right now!
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Jovian
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posted September 25, 2012 03:54 PM
Gabby, I just found this info about Eris in a reply by Xiiro, in an unrelated thread here.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000794-2.html quote:
In a nut shell Eris is a very complex energy, but some noticeable themes are "conflict out of a desire to keep things harmonious", "causing harm to the self or others through ignorance", "Feeling excluded or abandoned by people who have not physically left", "Feeling estranged or out of sync with your tribe, family, or group", "learning to improve one's self through comparison to others or from the way others treat you", "Accepting one's self as beautiful without the approval of others". Because it is a recently discovered planet, our understanding of Eris is fairly limited, but there is a lot of good information out there.
IDK...sounds to me like those interpretations are quite varied and far-reaching, but maybe helpful. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 25, 2012 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by Jovian:
Gabby, I just found this info about [b]Eris in a reply by Xiiro, in an unrelated thread here.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000794-2.html IDK...sounds to me like those interpretations are quite varied and far-reaching, but maybe helpful.[/B]
actually i do see some things,
"conflict out of a desire to keep things harmonious"
"causing harm to the self or others through ignorance"
---these goe along with the lilith lessons ive had to learn, martyring yourself doesnt actually save anyone, it only teaches ppl how to treat you(bad) and leaves you to broken and empty to really help anyone.--- "Feeling excluded or abandoned by people who have not physically left", "Feeling estranged or out of sync with your tribe, family, or group"
---i was always emotionally alone, i never felt i belonged or was good enough for God or the religion because their standards were unattainable, so in the end you martyr yourself, deny your own needs trying to be something your not for someone else.---
"learning to improve one's self through comparison to others or from the way others treat you", "Accepting one's self as beautiful without the approval of others".
---i have had to learn to stop judging myself according to the reality i grew up in, because that wasn't real and isnt reality!
i have had to watch other people, normal ppl and pretty much establish a completely new foundation for whats real and not, what are boundaries and where are they, whats appropriate and realistic, and who am i in all of this...the only way i could learn this was by watching other ppl interact with each other(its almost like i've spent the past 10 years raising myself, from infancy to adulthood, i had to relearn everything on an emotional level, i was brainwashed as a child...emotionally, nothing i was taught in my childhood was true)---
Eris on my Vertex-recently in the past year ive felt changes, like i'd come to a place that i'd gather enough information that i could become part of life instead of just observing it. The past few months its been esp strong, im trying to create my life instead of allowing it to drag me around. I'm kind of like the kid that just graduated from college and now is ready to go out and make their mark on the world, but its scary!
The vertex moment was the hypnosis i did, and from that started studying it...was offered a job by the hypnotherapist in her practice and starting work with her. Her and i are very different in our approach, shes very money, goal oriented...if someones not on time she cancels the appt and keeps the money. Im more about feeling the needs of person, it hurts when i see her doing that...but we both see how if we were a little more like the other we would be better for it, so it works! Funny is she is a pisces sun/moon...and im saggy sun/merc/neptune...you'd think she'd be the emotional one! LOL...but in numerolgy shes ruled by number 9(mars), im ruled by number 6(venus), so we compliment each other even though we don't like spending too much time together, lol....we both know love doesnt pay the bills, but you still required for life! Anyway learning hypnosis has led me into new areas, reiki, chakra healing, im starting to run charts for clients to get a better understanding of how they have been hurt...so we can get the deepest level of their pain and establish new emotions that empower them instead of destroy them. I've always started reading about how the mind works on a physical level, because i think if we can help our sub conscious understand what has physically happened or gone wrong in the brains function, our brains will begin trying to correct the problem itself.
Our bodies were made to self heal, you just need to know how to activate it in the mind...our bodies are so amazing!
Then of course we do things along with it to correct the emotional side that perpetuates the problem. But i believe things like ADHD can be reversed...all it is, is a part of the brain that has shut down, or is blocked so its not functioning....we can reactivate
these places.
I told you about my son, im already seeing a huge difference in my son, in 3 months he is down to half the medication he used to take. Then getting 2 different schools involved is huge!
Anyway...sorry, o got off topic...so yes, i do see this vertex/eris conjunction..and the day i went to see the hypnotherapist...my apollo was conjunct apollo exact...i mean 29.0456...exact and in my 10th house! lol
Apollo has to do with sub conscious matters, including hypnosis..
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Gabby
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posted September 25, 2012 06:28 PM
I found this interesting in my progressed/natal comparioson
Hypnos virgo@4.44, Saturn leo@2.50, Apollo leo@22, Medusa cancer@19, Orcus cancer@26, Nessus cancer@2.24 conjunct themselves(not always exact but within a couple degrees) all falling in MC, either natal MC or progressed MC...
Sedna taurus@3.39, Pholus pisces@9, Eris aries@13.00, Jupiter aries@15.03, Chiron aries@24 conjunct themselves also but on my DC!
Dont think Chiron moves?
Medusa is about having the courage to look at the ugliness inside and destroy it.Apollo is the God that drove the chariot carrying the sun, bringing the earth out of the darkness of night and into the light. Orcus is another name for pluto, its new so research is still needed but i found this--
Orcus, when handled constructively, governs accessing and bringing forward the spiritual wealth from the core of one's being. Hypnos-hypnosis Nessus about being victimized-also recovery and seeing life in new ways, how your experiences made you better, life enhanced by overcoming pain Sedna is the goddess of victims-also compassion, and taking what you've learned and allowing it to move you to love deeper Pholus can give unusual ability in a particular area, or unexpected results, big outcome with little effort, due to a gift for experiment. Pholus' transits over the main axes of a chart, often mark radical and unexpected change, hinted at by his sudden and unexpected death in the myth.
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posted September 26, 2012 06:18 PM
Gabby, wow--reading this, it is obvious to me you have a gift. Plugging in the 'healing'-related asteroids I could come up with, you interestingly have ...Hygiea 10 at 7.45 Cancer (tightly conjunct MC--therefore part of these current axes transit effects!) Wikipedia entry: In Greek and Roman mythology, Hygieia...was a daughter of the god of medicine, Asclepius. She was the goddess/personification of health, cleanliness and sanitation. She was the daughter of Asclepius and Epione. Hygieia and her five sisters each performed a facet of Apollo's art: Hygieia ("Hygiene" the goddess/personification of health, cleanliness, and sanitation), Panacea (the goddess of Universal remedy), Iaso (the goddess of recuperation from illness), Aceso (the goddess of the healing process), and Aglæa/Ægle (the goddess of beauty, splendor, glory, magnificence, and adornment). Hygieia also played an important part in her father's cult. While her father was more directly associated with healing, she was associated with the prevention of sickness and the continuation of good health. Her name is the source of the word "hygiene".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygieia ----------------------------------------------- Asclepius 4581 1.0 Sag CONJ Merc (<3) Aesculapia 1027 17.09 Vir CONJ Moon (<2) Aegle 96 1.21 Sag CONJ Asclepius (<1) (One of Hygiea's sister's, as per that Wikipedia entry above.) Aglaja 47 9.12 Gem CONJ Ceres (<1) -->(Alternate spelling of same goddess)
..Another article on Aegle adds, "...She is said to have derived her name Aegle, 'Brightness,' or 'Splendor,' either from the beauty of the human body when in good health, or from the honor paid to the medical profession." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegle_%28mythology%29
Reiki 5239 CONJ Spirit 37452 (<2)
Pallas OPP Moon (<1)
Pallas OPP Asclepius (<1)
Pallas CONJ Vesta (<3) Panacea 2878 CONJ Lilith (<2)
Panacea QX Hypnos (<1)
Panacea QX Uranus (<1) (Yod)
Panacea TRI Sun (<1) Wow! Not sure what you can make of those. I just enjoy finding them!
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posted September 26, 2012 10:36 PM
Wow!! Jovian...That is so much work
..and so cool!! Thankyou! Im going to look onto the ones you added!! Sweet!!IP: Logged |
mirage29
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posted October 04, 2012 11:11 AM
Brian Clark
AN ASTEROID ORACLE: The Ancient Feminine Wisdom of Asteroid Goddesses and Heroines
[~2004?] http://www.astrosynthesis.com.au/articles/16%20A%20Published%20Articles%20Goddess.pdf
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posted October 04, 2012 01:35 PM
Miraaaaaggge!! My love, you've returned!  So glad to see you!
...And great article to reference--cool!
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posted October 04, 2012 09:22 PM
My magnificent friend, Jovian!  You have a deep special place in my heart... Could I EVER forget you? We had sooo much fun last May! I still have a giggle and a laugh bubbling up in my belly! good, nice, kind, and uplifting fun! Steppenwolf was SUCH a good sport about it! I miss her, and I miss everyone! The sharing was genuine and warm. Kindness blessed the air for a long, long time. Hello there Gabby! I've read the things you've written so far. Jovian is right! You have a real talent for this. Hygiea is also in my own 10th house, trine my 6th House Sun. I'm glad I felt prompted to look here today... IP: Logged |
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posted October 04, 2012 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by mirage29:
My magnificent friend, Jovian! You have a deep special place in my heart... Could I EVER forget you? We had sooo much fun last May! I still have a giggle and a laugh bubbling up in my belly! good, nice, kind, and uplifting fun! Steppenwolf was SUCH a good sport about it! I miss her, and I miss everyone! The sharing was genuine and warm. Kindness blessed the air for a long, long time. Hello there Gabby! I've read the things you've written so far. Jovian is right! You have a real talent for this. Hygiea is also in my own 10th house, trine my 6th House Sun. I'm glad I felt prompted to look here today...
Jovian has amazing taste, so if she loves you, you must be one in a million!! Thankyou for your kind words...i cant wait to hear more from you!
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posted October 05, 2012 03:14 AM
oops... In the past hour I looked through a couple Asteroid Astrology threads -- Gabby, I saw your chart and read some of your stories. You had a really mean stepdad. I hate what happened to you. I read about your escaping with your sons. What an incredibly hard harsh thing to endure. Wow... you did it, and you're still okay. Sometimes when I step back and I look at the things that other people have to endure, I feel so small... Can't believe how dark and ugly life can get, how much raw-ness and pain. 'This could be heaven or it could be hell.' I wish it were a lot more of heaven. . .
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posted October 05, 2012 04:34 AM
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oops... In the past hour I looked through a couple Asteroid Astrology threads -- Gabby, I saw your chart and read some of your stories. You had a really mean stepdad. I hate what happened to you. I read about your escaping with your sons. What an incredibly hard harsh thing to endure. Wow... you did it, and you're still okay. Sometimes when I step back and I look at the things that other people have to endure, I feel so small... Can't believe how dark and ugly life can get, how much raw-ness and pain. 'This could be heaven or it could be hell.' I wish it were a lot more of heaven. . .
Awe!! Thank You! We all need each other...if all of us had everything taken away, who would be there to hold our hands and who would have the strength to build us back up! There is no small person, everyone plays a vital role...theres no way or even a need to compare, we are all amazing!
Its become more heaven with time....but my fav saying is, "when your going thru hell, keep going" So simple, but it is the best we can do and it works!! IP: Logged |
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posted October 14, 2012 10:30 PM
"When you're going through Hell--- DON'T STOP!!" I used to listen to a preacher named Jesse Duplantis (Louisiana,US) who said that a lot. The man is a maverick... and hysterically funny (to me)!! More than any other preacher I'd heard over the decades, (for me) this evangelist 'Jesse'... He consistently stands out in favor of "women". He stands above extremist right-wing peers in an authoritarian males-first 'religious' world. By chance I came across one of his broadcasts on TV about a month ago... He still speaks openly, respectful and supporting the power, intelligence, and independence of women. I felt he cared about girls in a way that made me feel all right about having been born female... On that note, I just a few hours ago came across a recent news story describing the life mission of and assasination attempt on the 14-yo Pakistani girl, Malala Yousufzai, Human Rights Activist... She was shot, Tues Oct 9,2012. As of Oct 14th the news reports she makes slow steady progress...
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/14/world/asia/pakistan-teen-activist-attack/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/10/opinion/ghitis-malala-yousufzai/index.html
My prayers pour out for brave Malala and for her very courageous friends...
May there be a fresh infilling of courage for all people in this world who dare to stand against darkness. Light our World...  ...  UPDATE 2012oct15 1242pm edt
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