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Topic: Guinevere: coming or going?
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Moonfish Moderator Posts: 3732 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 12, 2012 09:14 PM
As the story goes Guinevere(2483) leaves King Arthur to be with Lancelot. quote: Asteroid Guinevere represents where in the chart a woman may feel she may have to be unfaithful in her current relationship
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20100502-1-009111-10.html So for example, in Synastry, if A's Guinevere conjuncts B's Sun would A feel tempted to leave B for someone else, or would A want to leave another partner to be with B? IP: Logged |
Aeline Knowflake Posts: 700 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 13, 2012 02:11 PM
My friend's love interest left her for another woman. His Guinevere is conjunct her Uranus EXACT Her Guinevere is conjunct his Neptune EXACT IP: Logged |
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 1745 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted October 13, 2012 02:25 PM
Interesting I see Guinevere's relationship with Arthur as a marriage based on Public duty, were as Guinevere's relationship with Lancelot was one of passion and admiration for his heroism. For love triangles you could look at Helen, Paris and Menelaus. IP: Logged |
Aeline Knowflake Posts: 700 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 13, 2012 02:33 PM
I don't know if you believe in past lives... but i can share my experience on this subject, based on my p.l.chart synastry with a guy i love and always will.The story from my memories was that in that particular life we were lovers. I had a husband, and he had a wife. But we loved each other, no matter what, no matter that his wife was "my" sister. I never had a chance to leave my husband for him, because it all ended kinda tragic. But i wanted that. I guess, he could be my Lancelot... So the links in the charts showed up: My Guinevere trines his Uranus EXACT My Arthur squares his Guinevere (1) AND My Guinevere squares his Arthur (3) too wide for regular, but as a DW - i counted My Lancelot trine his Guinevere EXACT My Lancelot opposite his Karma EXACT His Guinevere squares my Neptune EXACT His Arthur conjuncts my Karma (1) His Lancelot opposite my Venus (1) His Lancelot conjunct my SN EXACT IP: Logged |
Aeline Knowflake Posts: 700 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 13, 2012 02:52 PM
Talk about love triangles.. i need to check that myth of Helen, Menelaus and Paris.Me and my love have: My Helen conjuncts his Menelaus (1) His Helen squares my Menelaus EXACT, so a DW. And yes, there is a love triangle. My Paris squares his Venus EXACT IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 1978 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted October 13, 2012 07:49 PM
my Guinevere conjuncts his venus and he is all I wantIP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 4449 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 14, 2012 05:42 AM
Actually there is a funny thing. My Guinevere`s opposite an actor`s Lancelot exactly and conjuncts his Draco Arthur my Guinevere`s also opposite his Valentine and his Guinevere`s conjunct my Valentine.lol IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 4449 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 14, 2012 05:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: Interesting I see Guinevere's relationship with Arthur as a marriage based on Public duty, were as Guinevere's relationship with Lancelot was one of passion and admiration for his heroism. For love triangles you could look at Helen, Paris and Menelaus.
Not totally. While most of it was certainly a politically motivated marriage, Guinevere shared Arthur`s ideals, and that was some thing they had in common and what was the basis of their affection.
However she probably was never passionately in love with him, even though she cared for him. Her grand passion was Lancelot, but it seems she was consumed with guilt about that (cause she knew Arthur was a good man). Actually in the versions of the story I read Guinevere did not end up with Lancelot but entered a convent and become a nun, and Lancelot after not being able to sway her became a monk himself. Another triangle that is interesting is Tristan, Isolde and King Mark(e)
BTW about Menelaos, Helena, Paris, it was actually a bit of a quadrangle, as Paris had been in love with Oenone before, and abandoned her and their little son, when he was courting Helena. Actually it was said that he was even married to Oenone before that
Interestingly there are some things that are similiar tothe Tristan and Isolde story, just that Oenone was a bit more revengeful.
"Mortally wounded by Philoctetes' arrow, he begged Oenone to heal him with her herbal arts,[6] but she refused and cast him out with scorn, to return to Helen's bed, and Paris died on the lower slopes of Ida. Then, overcome with remorse, Oenone, the one whole-hearted mourner of Paris, threw herself onto his burning funeral pyre, which the shepherds had raised. A fragment of Bacchylides suggests that she threw herself off a cliff,[7] in Bibliotheke it is noted "when she found him dead she hanged herself," and Lycophron imagined her hurtling head first from the towering walls of Troy. Her tragic story makes one of the Love Romances of Parthenius of Nicaea.[8]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oenone
To be honest, it is her character that I feel the most compassion for in all this drama. BTW it seems Venus spell had worn off after a few years and she wasn`t quite as enarmoured with paris anymore. Menelaos however seems to have loved her or have been enarmoured by her right to the end. It is told that when he finally captured her and wanted to kill her for her infidelity, he couldn´t. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37444 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 14, 2012 08:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aeline: My friend's love interest left her for another woman. His Guinevere is conjunct her Uranus EXACT Her Guinevere is conjunct his Neptune EXACT
Wow Interesting about Uranus and Neptune, here! Thanks for sharing, Aeline. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37444 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 14, 2012 08:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: my Guinevere conjuncts his venus and he is all I want
Interesting! I am happy for you, Stawr! ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Stawr Moderator Posts: 1978 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted October 15, 2012 12:11 AM
Thanks Ami! IP: Logged |