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Moonfish
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posted October 12, 2012 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As the story goes Guinevere(2483) leaves King Arthur to be with Lancelot.
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Asteroid Guinevere represents where in the chart a woman may feel she may have to be unfaithful in her current relationship
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So for example, in Synastry, if A's Guinevere conjuncts B's Sun would A feel tempted to leave B for someone else, or would A want to leave another partner to be with B?

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Aeline
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posted October 13, 2012 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend's love interest left her for another woman.

His Guinevere is conjunct her Uranus EXACT
Her Guinevere is conjunct his Neptune EXACT

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posted October 13, 2012 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting I see Guinevere's relationship with Arthur as a marriage based on Public duty, were as Guinevere's relationship with Lancelot was one of passion and admiration for his heroism.

For love triangles you could look at Helen, Paris and Menelaus.

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posted October 13, 2012 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if you believe in past lives... but i can share my experience on this subject, based on my p.l.chart synastry with a guy i love and always will.

The story from my memories was that in that particular life we were lovers. I had a husband, and he had a wife. But we loved each other, no matter what, no matter that his wife was "my" sister. I never had a chance to leave my husband for him, because it all ended kinda tragic. But i wanted that. I guess, he could be my Lancelot...

So the links in the charts showed up:

My Guinevere trines his Uranus EXACT
My Arthur squares his Guinevere (1) AND My Guinevere squares his Arthur (3) too wide for regular, but as a DW - i counted
My Lancelot trine his Guinevere EXACT
My Lancelot opposite his Karma EXACT

His Guinevere squares my Neptune EXACT
His Arthur conjuncts my Karma (1)
His Lancelot opposite my Venus (1)
His Lancelot conjunct my SN EXACT

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posted October 13, 2012 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Talk about love triangles.. i need to check that myth of Helen, Menelaus and Paris.

Me and my love have:

My Helen conjuncts his Menelaus (1)
His Helen squares my Menelaus EXACT, so a DW. And yes, there is a love triangle.

My Paris squares his Venus EXACT

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posted October 13, 2012 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my Guinevere conjuncts his venus
and he is all I want

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posted October 14, 2012 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually there is a funny thing.
My Guinevere`s opposite an actor`s Lancelot exactly and conjuncts his Draco Arthur

my Guinevere`s also opposite his Valentine and his Guinevere`s conjunct my Valentine.lol

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posted October 14, 2012 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Interesting I see Guinevere's relationship with Arthur as a marriage based on Public duty, were as Guinevere's relationship with Lancelot was one of passion and admiration for his heroism.

For love triangles you could look at Helen, Paris and Menelaus.



Not totally. While most of it was certainly a politically motivated marriage, Guinevere shared Arthur`s ideals, and that was some thing they had in common and what was the basis of their affection.

However she probably was never passionately in love with him, even though she cared for him.
Her grand passion was Lancelot, but it seems she was consumed with guilt about that (cause she knew Arthur was a good man).

Actually in the versions of the story I read Guinevere did not end up with Lancelot but entered a convent and become a nun, and Lancelot after not being able to sway her became a monk himself.


Another triangle that is interesting is Tristan, Isolde and King Mark(e)


BTW about Menelaos, Helena, Paris, it was actually a bit of a quadrangle, as Paris had been in love with Oenone before, and abandoned her and their little son, when he was courting Helena. Actually it was said that he was even married to Oenone before that


Interestingly there are some things that are similiar tothe Tristan and Isolde story, just that Oenone was a bit more revengeful.


"Mortally wounded by Philoctetes' arrow, he begged Oenone to heal him with her herbal arts,[6] but she refused and cast him out with scorn, to return to Helen's bed, and Paris died on the lower slopes of Ida. Then, overcome with remorse, Oenone, the one whole-hearted mourner of Paris, threw herself onto his burning funeral pyre, which the shepherds had raised. A fragment of Bacchylides suggests that she threw herself off a cliff,[7] in Bibliotheke it is noted "when she found him dead she hanged herself," and Lycophron imagined her hurtling head first from the towering walls of Troy. Her tragic story makes one of the Love Romances of Parthenius of Nicaea.[8]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oenone

To be honest, it is her character that I feel the most compassion for in all this drama.

BTW it seems Venus spell had worn off after a few years and she wasn`t quite as enarmoured with paris anymore.
Menelaos however seems to have loved her or have been enarmoured by her right to the end. It is told that when he finally captured her and wanted to kill her for her infidelity, he couldn´t.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 14, 2012 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aeline:
My friend's love interest left her for another woman.

His Guinevere is conjunct her Uranus EXACT
Her Guinevere is conjunct his Neptune EXACT


Wow Interesting about Uranus and Neptune, here! Thanks for sharing, Aeline.

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posted October 14, 2012 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
my Guinevere conjuncts his venus
and he is all I want

Interesting! I am happy for you, Stawr!

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Stawr
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posted October 15, 2012 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ami!

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