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Ceridwen
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posted October 19, 2012 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In this composite here (birthtime may be off), how would you weigh up the Saturn-Moon-square against the Valentine/NN-conjunction?
And how relevant would the sextile between Moon and the NN/Valentine-conjunction would be?

In short how would you *Rate* this composite? And which aspects would figure into this rating?



EDIT:
I didn`t post this in "Personal Readings" because the question of how to weigh up different composite aspects is definitely of general interest for me. Just thought this composite would make a good example, as it has the beautiful NN/Valentine conjunction along with a potentially painful MOon-Saturn-square (though abit on the wide side).


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mirage29
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posted October 19, 2012 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Ceridwen, I'm so sorry.... Did you actually ONLY want iQ to comment?)

I've become very interested in trying to understand how "Composites" and "Comparatives" work in the field of SYNASTRY (relationships, two people; or single people forming a group and coming together as one cohesive team working towards one goal to create something together).

Trying to learn this lately--- the whole concept of how it works really tickles my brain. I think it's really cool...

As far as I understand, when it comes to making Composite charts, you really need to have accurate birthtimes to make a valid product, since the chart that results is based upon the 'averaging' of all degrees together to find the Midpoints, then cast ONE chart.

Then you take the totality of the product and can compare yourself to ONE chart-- (like being a 'spouse' and regarded as a 'united front' or 'couple' together out in public; or the intertwining of two people who become ONE person, and how you relate to each other in the relationship).


In a CompArative chart, you're staying as two separate charts, and you 'compare' how the planets of one person interacts with the other person's. You're comparing one next to the other.

In a CompOsite chart, you are finding out what it means to be a committed couple, together. You're crunching all the numbers together to find the Midpoints, then making ONE chart. Accurate birthtime is really important for this. You are finding the Midpoint between your two Rising Signs (based on time of birth), then making THAT "your" single rising sign as a united living being; then filling in the midpoint planets as they fall into the houses.

The Composite Houses are read from slightly different perspective than you would a Natal Chart, as this based on the 'womb' of your experience, together.

In the various houses you find the issues of life. You face issues from the shades of definitions you form 'together'. It's how you 'together-are' and what kind of atmosphere or attitude you create for each other. It's the freedom or limitations imposed on each other (unconsciously or not), that your relationship 'together' produces.

This is the frame 'inside' the relationship: how you will allow 'each separate other' to be or feel towards one another, as concerning the different issues of life. AND, it also shows a picture 'outside' to the public-world: how come across together 'as a couple' in society at large.


[Geez, I REALLY hope I'm getting that right? Trying to take all I've learned, and recapping all from the light of my current understanding....]

Been trying to "keep up" with you all at LL with the synastry questions.

Recently I bought Robert Hand's book called "Planets in Composite." Things I'd been striving to understand about how to view relationships through astrological charts suddenly came to light...

I've been feeling at a loss at how to give input to questions posed here based on synastry.

Anyway, please let me know??? if a question is posed in the "Topic" literally addressed to iQ or to Ami, that it is JUST for these people to interact, and the rest of us to lurk??

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Ceridwen
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posted October 19, 2012 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, everyone`s invited to reply. But I particularly would like to hear IQ`s take on this, that is why I addressed it to him.
But of course everyone`s take is of interest.


Yes, I know how composites work and synastry.

You are of course right having an accurate birthtime will give the most individual results. However, even with only one birthtime intact, you can get a fairly good overview, though it is naturaly lacking in depth.

In the case of the composite what can change is really the angles and the Moon-position. Since at least one birthtime is absolutely correct, it will not make that much difference though, at elast in terms of planetary aspects.
However the sextile to Valentine or NN might be totally off. Yes.


The other planets though differ not that much, definitely under a degree difference.


EDIT:
My question is actually out of the middle of an analysis. For a complete analysis I would start with the natal charts, identify the basic "themes" in each chart and how they interconnect - the comparative analysis- especiall in relation to resonance to dominant themes.
After that checking the asteroid analysis aspectwise.

And only AFTER all that has been done I would really look at the composite.

So this really is just a specific question and of course lacks the context of the whole analysis.

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posted October 19, 2012 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ceridwen

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Ceridwen
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posted October 21, 2012 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You`re welcome.

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Ceridwen
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posted October 22, 2012 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 23, 2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good question Ceri, I'm also interested in hearing what IQ will say. My gut instinct to understand of a mix of pleasure vs pain aspects would be to take a 3 phase cyclic approach. One aspect would not outweigh the other, but they would be activated at different phases of a cycle. Eg. In the beginning, NN/valentine beckons its potential like a juicy berry on a bush, but unfortunately the berry is surrounded by thorns (saturn/moon). The couple have to work through the thorns to get to the berry, and they might give up if they are not careful and get pricked too often. But, if they succeed, the berry will taste oh so much sweeter than one which was just delivered to them on a plate.

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