posted October 27, 2012 11:31 AM            

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posted October 27, 2012 08:27 PM            

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posted October 27, 2012 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No, any

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posted October 28, 2012 10:54 AM            

I have a song response for you that is what the fallout of the nessus/dejanera relationship feels like for me:

Battle Scars by Guy Sebastian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzHZx66gVBQ

"I wish I couldn't feel, I wish I couldn't love, I wish I could stop cos it hurts so much... I wish you weren't the best I ever had, I wish that the good outweighed the bad, cos it'll never be over til you tell me it's over. These battle scars don't look like they're fading, don't look like they're ever gonna change... cos you set me on fire, I never felt so live, no hoping wounds heal cos it never does, that's because you're at war with love..."

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPTFNh4t27c

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posted October 28, 2012 02:38 PM            

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNL5aUymvY

And of course of my favourite musical, well one of these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxp9bAjIvcs&feature=related

"Lust like a raging desire" - that is pure Nessus to me; also the spoken part

and this duet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wq6mWwn4k4

posted October 28, 2012 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOL Gabby, that was EXACT The song I have been thinking of!

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posted October 28, 2012 03:10 PM            

Actually interestingly there is an actor, whose Nessus is opposite my Venus exact and his Mars opposes my Dejanira exact - the vibe I get of him are chilling to the bone, and I felt quite grateful that he is an actor and not really part of my life. But even though I of course don`t know him, I`ve got an idea/ a hunch/ a feeling about what that might be like.
You can even feel these sort of things across a distance, just imagine, how it would be if you actually met someone like this!

And Mars-Pluto and Nessus-DEjanira? Whoa!
Though I must say I seem to have a liking for Mars-Pluto-squares, not really a liking, but the attraction is insane, so consuming, lifechanging, destroying and transforming. The sexual attraction is blinding to ANYTHING, and it`s nothing you can walk away from unscathed.
It`s not that you donīt know what might ensue. OH you know, you know you are walking right into the dangerzone, plunge yourself into fire, but you just can`t NOT do it. Itīs inevitable. You will burn like the moth in the flame, and either you will arise as a phoenix from the ashes or you will be destroyed entirely. But even if you live (and most of us do live), you will walk away a totally different person. Death and rebirth.
And it is often said so lightly, but it ******* hurts. Just like Incubus wrote: "Love hurts, but sometimes it`s a good pain."

posted October 28, 2012 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOL

Actually interestingly there is an actor, whose Nessus is opposite my Venus exact and his Mars opposes my Dejanira exact - the vibe I get of him are chilling to the bone, and I felt quite grateful that he is an actor and not really part of my life. But even though I of course don`t know him, I`ve got an idea/ a hunch/ a feeling about what that might be like.
You can even feel these sort of things across a distance, just imagine, how it would be if you actually met someone like this!

And Mars-Pluto and Nessus-DEjanira? Whoa!
Though I must say I seem to have a liking for Mars-Pluto-squares, not really a liking, but the attraction is insane, so consuming, lifechanging, destroying and transforming. The sexual attraction is blinding to ANYTHING, and it`s nothing you can walk away from unscathed.
It`s not that you donīt know what might ensue. OH you know, you know you are walking right into the dangerzone, plunge yourself into fire, but you just can`t NOT do it. Itīs inevitable. You will burn like the moth in the flame, and either you will arise as a phoenix from the ashes or you will be destroyed entirely. But even if you live (and most of us do live), you will walk away a totally different person. Death and rebirth.
And it is often said so lightly, but it ******* hurts. Just like Incubus wrote: "Love hurts, but sometimes it`s a good pain."

I guess Nessus/Deja might actually have some similiarities to that. I couldnīt say which one is stronger, as usually Mars-Pluto happens to me, while Nessus-Deja for some reason does not, though Nessus -Venus has happened.

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posted October 28, 2012 07:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Curious Bull:
So squares/oppositions don't make it more volatile?

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Yes, more volatile and insolvable but any aspects are so powerful with these 2 asteroids. The aspects must be very close, though. Exact is the key to the intensity. Beyond 2 degrees, I would not count anything.

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posted October 28, 2012 07:27 PM            

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posted October 28, 2012 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, more volatile and insolvable but any aspects are so powerful with these 2 asteroids. The aspects must be very close, though. Exact is the key to the intensity. Beyond 2 degrees, I would not count anything.

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Oh wow! I didnt realize it was so close!! That makes me feel so much better!!
But we need to look at even trines and sextiles within 2 degrees as a negative to any personal planet also?

How does a Nessus 'Rx' retrograde affect the person, are they self abusive if it aspects personal planets?

Would it make their abusive ways more passive aggressive towards you?

here is our aspects within 2 degrees...

His nessus-gemini@22.46
My chiron- aries@24.14

My nessus squares his pluto?
How would the retrograde affect this?

My Cancer nessus@2.24 rx
His Libra pluto@4.09

posted October 29, 2012 09:16 AM            

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posted October 29, 2012 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I love mars/pluto squares to! But they do get intense!!!

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posted October 29, 2012 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I love Ceri getting in on it. NOW, the fun has begin. She is the guru of astrological songs

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LOL

Just gave me the excuse to listen to these songs again.
Actually when I first received the CD of "Jekyll And Hyde", I would have the habit of listening to music in the dark, but whenver I was listening "Alive" I had to switch on the light. Scared of a song. lol

posted October 29, 2012 12:57 PM            

His nessus-gemini@22.46
My chiron- aries@24.14

My nessus squares his pluto?
How would the retrograde affect this?

My Cancer nessus@2.24 rx
His Libra pluto@4.09"

posted October 29, 2012 12:58 PM            

due to copyright reasons in German youtube I can`t access thse songs.

posted October 29, 2012 05:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
yes, they do. Insanely.
But my natal Venus-Pluto-square thrives on Mars-Pluto-aspects.

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posted October 29, 2012 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I see your post. I will be back to study it. I want to tell you that you are doing a super job of making the Asteroid Forum a more wonderful place, Gabby. Thank you.

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posted October 29, 2012 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Gabby,

due to copyright reasons in German youtube I can`t access thse songs.

But I know "Luka" - and yes, totally there, though Is uspect there would be Mars also aspecting Nessus and Dejanira in this case and mayb even Saturn, as this is such an abusive controlling theme there.
Oh and of course Neptune - living in denial about what is really going on and do something about it

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posted October 29, 2012 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"here is our aspects within 2 degrees...

His nessus-gemini@22.46
My chiron- aries@24.14

My nessus squares his pluto?
How would the retrograde affect this?

My Cancer nessus@2.24 rx
His Libra pluto@4.09"

Those are actually quite generational. I don`t think they would cause too much harm UNLESS one of these planets is natally or synastrically aspected by personal planets or angles.

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Oh, good! No nothing else closely affecting anything!

I do worry about my nessus sitting next to my mars, the only aspect in birth chart to mars is to uranus..
uranus scorpio@4.44
mars gemini@29.33rx
nessus cancer@2.24rx

uranus closely trining retro nessus, out of sign conjunction to mars in retro...hmmm?