posted November 05, 2012 04:57 PM            

I'm wondering (if you have some time) if you might be able to offer your opinion on some aspects. I was reading about Ulysses/Odysseus/Penelope in another thread and got curious. I looked up the synastry between me and my ex (since I was truly convinced that we were supposed to be together for life when I first met him) and was kind of surprised at what I found.

I got the sense (from the other thread) that you have not really studied these asteroids as much as others but I was hoping you might have some insight on the aspects I noticed between our charts anyway since you have such a good understanding of the myths as well as a good intuition for asteroid synastry.

In addition, I included Karma, Anteros, Isis, Osiris and our personal name asteroids.

Note: Our ASC/DSC axis are reversed. My ASC is Mercury and his ASC is Jupiter. Also, my personal name asteroid is "S" and his is "A".)

My Osiris conjunct his Isis (1)
My Isis sextile his Osiris (2)
My Isis conjunct his Ulysses (2)
My Penelope sextile his Ulysses/Odysseus (1,2)
My Penelope conjunct his Osiris (0)
My Osiris trine his Pluto/Karma (0)
My Osiris conjunct his Anteros and "S" (0,1)
My "A" trine his Pluto, Anteros, Karma, "S" and Isis (0)
His "S" trine my "A" and Karma (0)

My Mercury trine his Pluto and Karma (0)
My Mercury conjunct his Anteros, "S" and Isis (0)
My Sun/Venus conjunct his Ulysses/Odysseus (0,1)

His Mercury/Jupiter conjunct my Penelope (2)
His Moon sextile my Odysseus/Ulysses (0)
His Penelope sextile my ASC (0) and trine my Saturn (0)
His Saturn conjunct my Anteros (0)
His Anteros trine my Karma (0)

There seem to be a lot of connections between Isis/Osiris/Odysseus/Ulysses/Penelope, many of them exact. (I am leaving out a whole bunch of stuff involving Valentine, Amor, etc. to simply focus on the interconnections of the above asteroids.) I just thought it was very interesting since we are born only two months apart so I wasn't expecting to see most of these connections.

Just wondering if you have any thoughts on this.

Thanks )

posted November 06, 2012 06:13 AM            

are there tight aspects between your angles, or of significant love or karmic objects to ASC or IC? (tight= 00°00-02°00)?

"My Osiris conjunct his Isis (1)
My Isis sextile his Osiris (2)
Due to the tight conjunction this DW is VERY relevant.

"My Isis conjunct his Ulysses (2)
My Penelope sextile his Ulysses/Odysseus (1,2)
My Penelope conjunct his Osiris (0)
My Osiris trine his Pluto/Karma (0)"

These are the most significant ones imo.
I get the feeling that this might be a karmic soulmate relationship (karmic does not imply it need to be "heavy karma", just that you definitely have met before).

The interconnection between Penelope/Odysseus and Isis/Osiris esp. with the exact aspect to Pluto/Karma makes me think that there was a very relevant past life line, probably in Egypt, could also be in Greece during the Bronze age (as Odysseus is connected to the Trojan war).
You most probably were married, but maybe you were separated for a long time from each other; both Isis and Osiris as Penelope and Odysseus emphasise the theme of "utmost devotion and commitment in the face of forced separation".
Maybe you had to wait a long time before you could either get married or enjoy your married life.

It would be interesting to see if there are nice aspects from Amor or Valentine (to indicate it was a love marriage) or if there were challenging aspects from Nessus, Chiron, and similiar ones to indicate if there was more turmoil and pain than happiness involved.

posted November 06, 2012 04:39 PM            

Yes, good thoughts above ^^^. I will include what I found here in regards to Valentine, Amor and Chiron. (Before I was trying not to clog things up with too many aspects).

For the record, it was a lot of heavy karma. (My 12th H Moon conjuncts his SN) Possibly the most I have ever dealt with in a relationship, which is saying quite a lot. I guess we are no longer together because eventually it became too much (more so for him).

But I really miss him.

As far as Amor, Valentine and Chiron go:

We have a Valentine square ASC double whammy, both exact (In the composite it conjuncts our ASC of course)

His Valentine trines my Sun/Venus (and Uranus) (0,1)
His Valentine sextiles my Chiron (1)
My Valentine opposes his Moon (1) and trines his POF (2)

His Amor squares my Ulysses, Odysseus and "S" (0,1)
My Amor trines his Moon (2) and semi-squares his Odysseus and Penelope (1)

My Chiron conjuncts his Mercury/Jupiter (rulers of his ASC/DSC axis) (2)

My Chiron trines his Juno (2) and squares his "A" (1)

As far as the original asteroids go, my Chiron semi-sextiles his Penelope and that's it.

I should add something I forgot about yesterday which is interesting: His NN quincunxes my Osiris (1) and my NN quincunxes his Isis (1)

In our composite, we have Ulysses and Odysseus conjunct and:

- exactly trine our ASC
- square Karma (1,2)
- sextile Juno (2,3)
- trine NN (0)
- sextile Jupiter (0)
- semi-square Sun (0)

Penelope is exactly quintile both of our name asteroids and square Moon

I find it interesting in this lifetime that our separation was forced by him although maybe it was for the best. I have no idea why my intuition led me astray but I have to assume there must be a reason for it. This is easier to convince my head of than my heart.

Thanks for looking Ceridwen

ETA; I forgot to add angle stuff. Sorry.

His Venus sextiles my AC and MC (2)
His Jupiter squares my MC (2)
His Vertex conjunct my IC (2)
His Juno square my AC (1)
His "A" trines my AC (0)
His Osiris squares my IC/MC (1)
His penelope sextile my AC (0)

My Mars trines his MC
My Jupiter quincunxes his MC
My Union conjuncts his AC
My Pluto quintiles his AC
(those are all exact ^^^)

None of the original asteroids (save for Osiris and Penelope) aspect the angles.