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Aeline
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posted November 08, 2012 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You wrote that on one thread.

"The three planes:
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tropical: the physical plane; present incarnation
Draco: emotional roots; past incarnations
helio: spiritual plane; either future incarnation, or operating out of the context of time

the helio is also said to relate to the Higher Self, and as twin flames have the same Higher Self (at least that is what I repeatedly read about it), the helios are a MUST in twin flame relationships.
As Draco`s are relating to the Moon and soul-connections, soulmates and Twinflame also MUST have strong Draco connections I guess

(1) strong tropica, strong Draco and strong helio:
° twinflames
° probably ready for reunion on earth, as shown by the connections to tropical

(2) weak tropical, strong Draco and strong Helio
° possibly twinflames, who are not yet ready or missing opportunities to be reunited in this earthly incarnation, though their souls and spirits will resonate with each other still
(maybe these will bring the most pain)

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(3) strong tropical, strong Draco, weak helio
° probably no twinflames, as the spiritual or Higher Selves connection is weak
° soulmates with strong soulattachment plus shared past lives
° reconnecting to either solve unfinished karma (esp. if the Draconic aspects are challenging) or because the past shared joy drew them together again

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(4) strong tropical and strong helio, weak Draco

this one puzzles me a lot


° possibly spiritual guides for each other
° it could be that there is no emotional attachment, so they would not be soulmates; or it could be that it just means there has been no past life stuff at work
(it depends how we interprete the Draconics I guess. Is it JUST past life stuff, or is it also relating to a soul-connection?)

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(5) weak tropical, strong Draco, weak helio
° possibly soul- or karmamate with emotional attachment and shared past life experiences
° since the tropical is weak, maybe no reconnection in this life, or mit might indicate that they need to take a "break" from each other

(6) weak tropical, weak Draco, strong helio
° spiritual connection is present, but maybe more like a "background program"
° there seems to be a separation from each other on the physical plane

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(7) strong tropical, weak Draco, weak helio
° Earthmates
° neither soulmates nor twinflames
° probably the start of a new cycle with new souls, maybe even from other soulgroups

(8) weak tropical, weak, Draco, weak helio
° "soulstrangers"


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Of course we would have to define what "strong" and "weak" means (imo, "weak" is rather a lack of aspects than challenging ones).

Also, there are still aspects in the tropical for example, that will show a soul-connection on the physical plane.
Like Moon/Pluto or Moon/ASC etc. for example."


So, i have some questions: how much aspects do you consider to be enough to say that it's "strong"? For example, we take those referene subjects you mentioned in the other thread, and look only at the closest ones, within 2 degrees, the closer the better. How much conjunctions/oppositions would you prefer to have to label it strong? Also - do we look at synastry as well as composite?

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posted November 08, 2012 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea, I just quoted myself with the EXACT part in the thread of Keela. Did you see it ther?

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posted November 08, 2012 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yea, I just quoted myself with the EXACT part in the thread of Keela. Did you see it ther?

LOL, no. I didn't read it. I saw it in this thread actually - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/210984-5.html

Heh. Ok, i'll go read it.

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posted November 08, 2012 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a freaking coincidence!

And since I do not believe in coincidences, lert`s just call it amazing synchronicity.

And yes, I remember of course.
I still think along these lines. And I still haven`t really delved into discerning what makes a weak and a strong resonance to each layer.

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posted November 08, 2012 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cer...question


What do you consider strong??
Aspects/conjunctions to personal planets?
Or sm asteriods.

When u said in helio they would be the same.

I don't understand, same signs?
Wouldn't then they be the same in natal?
Jus opposite signs from natal to helio

Or would being the same reflected in other ways?

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posted November 08, 2012 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What a freaking coincidence!

And since I do not believe in coincidences, lert`s just call it amazing synchronicity.

And yes, I remember of course.
I still think along these lines. And I still haven`t really delved into discerning what makes a weak and a strong resonance to each layer.


lol...

I guess you answered my question, before my post
Went through..

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posted November 08, 2012 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What a freaking coincidence!

And since I do not believe in coincidences, lert`s just call it amazing synchronicity.

And yes, I remember of course.
I still think along these lines. And I still haven`t really delved into discerning what makes a weak and a strong resonance to each layer.


lol...

I guess you answered my question, before my post
Went through..

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posted November 08, 2012 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What a freaking coincidence!

And since I do not believe in coincidences, lert`s just call it amazing synchronicity.

And yes, I remember of course.
I still think along these lines. And I still haven`t really delved into discerning what makes a weak and a strong resonance to each layer.


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posted November 08, 2012 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can`t delve into the discussion strong vs weak right now.

But no, helio is just seen our galaxy from the perspective of Sun insterad of earth.
The earth/Moon comnplex will be opposite the Sun in geocentric /normal chart.

Anything else will not.


The transpersonal planets will not move a lot, since they are so far away (and the fact they donīt change all that much, makes it even more clear to me why they are transpersonal and "carriers of intense spiritual energy" in the geocentric chart as well.


However the personal planets may move around quite a bit. So do most asteroids, not very far away but far enough for a new image to emerge and new aspects to form or becoming closer.


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posted November 09, 2012 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh ok... Guess its my chart..
My earth/moon/ Merc all go from Leo to aqua.


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posted November 09, 2012 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my chart Earth/Moon complex of course goes into Gemini, but Mercury stays in Sagittarius.

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posted November 09, 2012 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What a freaking coincidence!

And since I do not believe in coincidences, lert`s just call it amazing synchronicity.

And yes, I remember of course.
I still think along these lines. And I still haven`t really delved into discerning what makes a weak and a strong resonance to each layer.


Synchronicities have been following me everywhere for some time now, lol.

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posted November 09, 2012 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, me, too. It`s amazing to see all the patterns around, isn`t it?

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posted November 09, 2012 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES! Even yesterday, i found out the time of birth of my nephew... It turns out that his ASC conjuncts my Moon by 2 minutes EXACT, and mine ASC conjuncts his Moon by a degree. LOL!!!

And all other things astrology can reveal?!

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posted November 09, 2012 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

Always love these things!


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