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Lonake
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posted April 17, 2010 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm it's squaring my Sun (*which is conj your moon) maybe that's why I'm sensitive to it.

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posted April 17, 2010 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

very interesting

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posted April 17, 2010 06:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know DD will love this post!

cause times ago DD showed me her discoverings of Pholus too and it seems that it plays a big role indeed on turning points/major events that starts out of knowhere...!

i looked at Tr Pholus:

my chart:

TR Pholus is cj my nFelicitas in the 3rdH.
TR Pholus is trine my nKarma/Fortuna in 11H
TR PHolus is trine my nPholus/VX in 7H


John´s chart:

TR Pholus is cj his VX in 5th
TR Pholus is sextile his IC and trine MIDHEAVEN
TR Pholus is sqaure his PF

So,LONake according to your thread,Pholus shows turning event/change in JOhn´s career?it is something fated/karmic and according to 5th issues maybe? as it is sextile IC it will be good for him spiritually wise?

squares pf so maybe it will be a bit hard in the beginning?

As for me....pholus has nice aspects.it is trine npholus 7th so a major change in relationships?or partnerships?That in turn will affect positively my life ( karma/fortuna in 11th) so has to do with 11h issues....? it is in my 3rd so the turning point will have to do with immediate surroundings?my siblings?


NOTE: sinastry

his pholus cj my DSC and my Pholus cj his Fortuna.
HIs Pholus trine my karma/valentine/fortuna/felicitas/mars!

Draconic: my pholus cj his karma 0º

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posted April 17, 2010 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that.

Pholus is a BIG one for me. It`s appearance in transits during important stations in my life is almost creepy due to its "punctuality".

It have almost always been conjunction, opposition or square to my Moon.
Occasionally same aspects to Sun and ASC, but Moon was by far the most often.

Natal Pholus itself is on 6°46 Pisces in 3rd house conjunct Ceres.

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posted April 17, 2010 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Raymond,
My Moon is @ 27 Capricorn, H6

Hi Diandra,

quote:
John´s chart:

TR Pholus is cj his VX in 5th
TR Pholus is sextile his IC and trine MIDHEAVEN
TR Pholus is sqaure his PF

So,LONake according to your thread,Pholus shows turning event/change in JOhn´s career?it is something fated/karmic and according to 5th issues maybe? as it is sextile IC it will be good for him spiritually wise?

squares pf so maybe it will be a bit hard in the beginning?



Wow. t.Pholus on Vertex I would think is pretty strong. They both seem related to twists of fate. How interesting. trine the MC I think it would be beneficial to his aims, I guess his MC is Aries? Watch for when Jupiter then Uranus hits that point as well. Esp. Uranus. Looks like a lot of inspiration (since it's fire sign in fire house). And fire is spiritual so I do think this area will be opening up really strongly for him. Not sure about the PoF aspect. I dunno, DD i'm sure knows more about this.
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As for me....pholus has nice aspects.it is trine npholus 7th so a major change in relationships?or partnerships?That in turn will affect positively my life ( karma/fortuna in 11th) so has to do with 11h issues....? it is in my 3rd so the turning point will have to do with immediate surroundings?my siblings?

It feels like a big sign heading your way regarding something you need to know about your relationships/interactions overall. the trine I think wouldnt be that strong of an impact, but something will show you the path you need to be on. Oh, it's a grand trine. So t.pholus is in your 3rd? Yea I think you'll get a strong msg from being out and about in your town, yea could be siblings too. Something will happen (or something that someone says) will set off a new way of thinking and get some good energy moving that may have been stagnant before, it's in fire, a fire grand trine, which points to inspiration, do you need your energy reserves renewed? The msg could give you a new drive that allows you to think (air houses) more about the possibilities in your life. Renewed thinking. I'm hypothesizing, ask DD too!
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his pholus cj my DSC

It seems pholus conj an angle/personal planet is really strong. I just don't know who it's stronger for. In my synastries, we have double whammies. I'm still trying to figure it out. I need to keep checking to find one where it's not to separate the energies, figure it out. It does seem that pholus is the point of no return, so conj your Dsc, that could really be a key in your fascination with him? But did it start as a small contact that ballooned quite rapidly into something bigger than you could comprehend/see coming @ the time? To me, that would be Pholus.

Hi DD,

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It`s appearance in transits during important stations in my life is almost creepy due to its "punctuality"

Ahh! I want to check the current transits but it's not aspecting anything in my natal, lol. I will have to backtrack! You have Sagittarius, is it around your Asc right now?

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posted April 20, 2010 06:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake

yes,his mc is Aries,i guess it will take time to uranus get there ..it moves so slowly.

i really would welcome a new way of thinking/take perspectives in my life.really hope so that pholus will bring me good and nice change of events. maybe is already happen without me knowing who knows...pholus acts so quietly out of knowhere afterall...

yes,we met online,and at that time i never t hought it would turned to something so big/good/ as Love.

but it did!!!!without us having time to think , when we realized that we werein love,there was nothing more to do...it was too late to come back to what our lifes were before

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posted October 20, 2010 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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DiandraReborn25
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i love to see Phoolus.i already didnt remembered of this thread.

but it is nice to see what Lonake talked about.

let´s see if Pholus is that strong.till now no major event happened...but again...pholus is all about little things that grow bigger and bigger.

perhaps is still in that phase

what i noticed is that JOhn besides of having still Tr pHOlus in his n.VX in 5th,Tr Amor is cj n.Pholus in 9th close to the MC.

natally i have my pholus cj vertex in the 7th so whatever pholus triggers,it is highly fated and in terms of relationships and one-to-one dealings.

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posted October 20, 2010 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting Lonake

My Pholus is retrograde in 7th, and quincunx my Merc, & Saturn in 2nd, squares my Moon in 10th, & trines my Neptune in 3rd. If you count a 3° orb, it conjuncts my Vertex, but that is too wide right?

"Pholus links the orbits of Saturn and Neptune.
Saturn/Neptune midpoint is said to be Pholus-sensitive. That means that aspects to Saturn/Neptune midpoint is like aspects to Pholus."

My Saturn/Neptune midpoint conjuncts my Uranus in 3rd.

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posted October 20, 2010 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Pholus in Capricorn, 4th house has only trine with Venus in 8th.

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posted October 20, 2010 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Pholus is at 12*Pisces, square Neptune and trine Saturn, in my 4th...

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posted October 22, 2010 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was looking for one thing and found this:

CENTAUR PHOLUS IN THE 12 HOUSES

1. This is a position of the cosmopolitan mind. Pholus on the ascendant or in the first house
marks a mobile and unregular life. As an example we have the traveling photographer. Paris. On the halberds, moths, moths.

2. Roaming access to your account and temporary loss of money when Pholus is in the second
house. Pholus has it's own oblique ways to make you find the things you miss in life.

3. Briefs such as this analysis, quick schedule builders, blitz interviews and a sense of
overall improvisation with Pholus in third. Exactly on the cusp of your favorite house
system (Regiomontanus, Porphyry), Pholus thelepats your favorite city and escape destination.

4. Changes are studied and patterns of timespace arrange for insight with Pholus nadiring.
This is the position of the master spy. Snooping around the kitchen in the early morning makes for a paparazzo scoop in the late evening.

This is the Bilbo Baggins position (I.C.). One loses local respectability, a few believe his
stories, all know he's mad, his friends are elves, magicians and brownies; one dissapears never to
be back again. /1/

An example:
Pholus I.C. sco = little home theft of old money
Jupiter exact trine Pholus = good luck
Jupiter Kerberos = hacking good luck

Pholus in this position enhances the `restless genes' (of the Tooks) in Bilbo, he steals in, gets his prize and makes it towards happyend. [ In the former example, darkplanet Kerberos,
Jupiter and Scorpio contribute to the success of the thief. ]

5. Celibacy and meditation with Pholus in fifth. One definitively has no love for trivia.
To others he might seem a troublemaker. The lover as companion in adventure.
A comfortable risk, a safe dip into the unknown. Cosmotravel for babies. Flash Gordon.
Pleasure trip (typical target Paris). Also roaming around in a cosy maze (Venice).

6. Pholus in sixth. Rituals such as of left tantra. Success as seaman. Swiss banks protect your capital. A discrete standard even after heavy taxing. Generally a symptom of good health.

7. Unmarried does not mean haremless. When Pholus is in the 7th house, the soul mate is from another place. It might even be off the planet or from dreamworld.

8. This is a very loving position. Tears will clean the way to sincerity. Davison relationship synastry chart reports will determine the time of love.

9. Dreaming together and contacts with your guru inthe astral kingdom. Pholus is about traveling and is accordingly obviousely strong in 12th 3rd and 9th.

10. Artists could profit from this position. The would be guru has yet to discard his human frame. Media like TV. Not a steady job at all, movimentated career, paid not to work, poltron, flatterer, double agent.

11. Moving inside his own clan he keeps the core sincere. Pholus is a happy family man when the big clan prospers and perhaps lively transactions happen from within it's circle. An advice increase severity and nevertheless cherish the woman as the centre of the clan. This is NASDAQ's position.

12. Samadhi is the end of married life. Yin and Yang unmarry here. Tao knows neither Yin nor Yang. One quits entangling himself with the world of duty, parents long gone, he quits mindane business and has false mind ("his" ego) as the only devil to face to the end. TrueMind takes over, dissolving the salt doll of "ego" or "foreign instal", daily mind. Events funneled, as if guided by a mysterious hidden god.

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posted October 22, 2010 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
teasel.

--My Pholus is at 12*Pisces--

My Moon is at 13'34 Pisces. What that means?

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posted October 22, 2010 07:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bonadea

that is very accurate!

i have pholus in my 7rh and my bf is from another place,different than mine.we are long distance.and not only that but IQ told me also that he is probably a Star Seed so...that is accurate indeed!

my bf has pholus in his 9th cj MC.

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I have Pholus conj AC 26 Pisces.

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posted December 04, 2010 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joyrjw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally! Somebody was able to find some information on Pholus. Thank you!

I have(Sidereal) Pholus Aquarius 17'57 conjunct my MC Aquarius 16'56 (Tropical)Pisces

Pholus opposite Moon
Pholus trine Uranus
Pholus square Neptune
Pholus quincunx Pluto
Pholus trine NN
Pholus trine Vertex

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posted December 05, 2010 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow what an interesting and timely thread lonake (i know it's old- but the bump is timely).

i've had two dates with the guy i recently wrote about who's saturn opposes mine and venus conjuncts my chiron exact. they have been utterly and amazingly healing for both of us. it turns out our childhoods were eerily similar (very psychotic parents and themes) and we just naturally nurture eachother. i checked our pholuses and mine conjuncts his chiron exact, and tPholus is on his SN exact (within 0'03 and 0'04 degs) and his widely conjuncts my sun and tightly trines my DC. it is very interesting to me because this happened very suddenly and has already had a huge effect on us in ways i can't even begin to explain.

could these positions of pholus explain these feelings?

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posted December 05, 2010 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow! So my natal Pholus is conjunct my DESC. and currently T. Pholus is conjunct my ASC. I guess right now must be a turning point. I'm graduating this year with my B.A. in English Literature! But I don't see the significance so much in synastry...

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posted December 31, 2012 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may be moved to Asteroids, but bumping to say that Pholus in conj. (1.5d) my 5h Sun.

It may be said that my life has been defined by sudden, unexpected shifts brought on by small decisions...

...I thought that was true for everyone, though

Edited to add: Crap. Pallus is conj my sun, not Pholus.
Silly little symbols.

Never mind.

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posted December 31, 2012 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pholus seems to be pretty strong in my chart.It is in Virgo in 10th house conjunct chiron,opposite sun,mercury,saturn in pisces in 4th,square pluto and north node in 1st,trine juno and ascendant in scorpio.

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posted December 31, 2012 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Pholus seems to be pretty strong in my chart.It is in Virgo in 10th house conjunct chiron,opposite sun,mercury,saturn in pisces in 4th,square pluto and north node in 1st,trine juno and ascendant in scorpio.

I love Pholus. He is a real weirdo.

I have it conjunct Chiron, too. Do you explode your pain. I do

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posted December 31, 2012 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to the Asteroid Forum

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posted December 31, 2012 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh. Are you effing kidding me?! Pholus is like Pluto? ...Transiting Pluto is FINALLY moving away from my Venus, after like two years ... and now I realize that my Progressed Venus is exactly conjunct my Pholus.

Unreal. I can't take anymore "transformation" in the love department right now. I'm "exploding" indeed....

This would (unfortunately) jibe with some deep issues I'm having to heal, that were brought to light via someone I met several months ago, that will, ideally, leave me transformed regarding being able to give and receive love...but it is definitely NOT a fun ride, right now.


EDIT: Holy moly. I also see Pholus active in the HELIOCENTRIC synastry between me and another whom I continue to have very strong feelings about (whom I met early last year, during this recent Pluto conjunction to my Venus)...

PHOLUS conj VENUS (<1), and
CHIRON conj PHOLUS (<1)


Augh! Yer killin' me with this stuff.

Re: possible Pholus theme of "small cause and big effect," not sure. Hmm. ...For both, I can "see" the past-life relationship we had. So, the "cause" was set in our past lives. The big effect/ Karma to be healed is in today. ..."Big returns?" Heh. Can't see much beyond the heart-wrenching work I'm still in the midst of, I'm afraid.

I am NOT in romantic relationships with either of these two at this point, but I am doing a LOT of healing, by processing my feelings about how I react to them.

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posted December 31, 2012 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pholus - CNJ Eris 8h Aries:

^^ oh he's weird alright... *snort* a weird and very, very, very, busy centaur or so it seems after studying him at work in my own demented chart~ haha

Sabian for 14° Aries~ "A serpent coiling near a man and a woman"
Note: Pholus and Eris conspire with Venus/SN and Vesta/NN and Priapus in Leo to make a really "weird" Kite formation/Grand Trine)
Additionally: All aspects are 2° or less - as my liking is to use 3° usually but I felt no need since this degree is prominent all around my chart (14°-15°)!

CNJ: Persephone Anastasia Somnium Gratia Compassion
TRI: Priapus Logos Ariadne
TRI: Venus South Node
SXT: Vesta North Node
SXT: Cyllarus Agepenor Guinevere Hebe Telemachus Agrawain Achilles White Knight Hermes Solidarity !Aquarius in 5/6 house holds the largest population of celestial bodies, follwoed by Sagittarius and Scorpio!
SQR: Vanadis Moroso Credo Marghana
SQR: Gorgo Sigune
OPP: Dione
QNX: Okyrhoe
Q: Isis Loke Fulvia Pyrrha Soulie Batsheba
Q: Takaotengu Tutenchamun Taharahiawako Admete
N: BM Lilith Harmonia Agememnon Devota Desdemona
N: Moon Typhon Amatarasu
bQ: Ixion Quaoar Camelot Elatus Balasubramanian
bQ; Asc Node Destinn Khama
smSXT: Lust Aeternitas Paradise Alma
smSXT: Cerberus Themis Magdelena Quetzalcoatl Confucius
(highlighted are bodies/characters that I feel correspond in some way with the message of my Eris-Pholus conjunction)
Of course, there are a few others - but I didn't find them worthwhile in including. ^^;
He was one of the good guy Centaurs, just had a moment of recklessness.... to me he represents a sacred guardian role, and a keeper and "disrupter" (appropriately enough) of (family/cultural) traditions - He's all about extremes, nothing in excess or everything taken to the nth
- I like to think he teaches us about maintaining our duties, and keeping our wits about us at al times... And, on the negative, like other centaurs he represents the catalyst in a chain reaction, karmic cycle of some sort~ Gotta love these busy-body Centaurs, aye?
This thread is a real treasure~ you don't find much on Pholus (or all to many of the centaurs) and I really got a kick out of some of it, gotta say...

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8. This is a very loving position. Tears will clean the way to sincerity. Davison relationship synastry chart reports will determine the time of love.

..... I don't think he's in such a loving position with Eris riding piggy back for the last 29 years~ XD ohhh but there were certainly tears along this wagon trail.... haha

Big thank you to Lonake and everyone sharing information, and experiences here!~ TYTYTY (can't say it enough!)

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What about Pholus (Gemini, in the 12H) inconjunct my Moon in Taurus (11H)?

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