posted January 17, 2013 11:49 PM            

Obama's second term inauguration is on Jan. 21, 2013 at 11:30AM, Washington, DC. For his birth time, I've used the Long-Form Birth Certificate time. I have little reason to believe that this is inaccurate so far, despite the controversy.

for each chart, Obama is the blue inside, and Inauguration Ceremony Start is the red outside.

Chart 1: My standard set of asteroids.

Chart 2: Deception Set, using: Lie, Swindle, Rudra, Toutatis, Kafka, Medusa, Bologna, Skepticus, Pinocchio, Tyrannosaurus

Chart 3: Potential Threat set for this purpose, using: Kennedy, Anubis, Lincoln, Ostwald (intended to mean Oswald), Lamb, Bambi, Poseidon, Martir, Nemesis, Atropos

Chart 4: Potential Threat set 2 for this purpose, using: Requiem, Achilles, Pyrrhus, Leviathan, Carr (car), Gunn (gun), Damocles, Dallas, Ohno, Prey

I haven't the time at this very moment to make a detailed analysis, although a few things immediately struck out at me:

- Obama (O) Kennedy on Inauguration (I) Kaali/North Node - this worries me.
- O. Uranus/North Node on I. Hekate (Rx)
- O. Gunn/Carr on I. Leviathan.
- O. Martir directly on O. Midheaven
- O. Prey on I. Ascendant.
- O. Vesta on Algol
- O. Descendant on I. Kafka (I'm not sure entirely what this will entail if anything).
- O. Achilles (Rx) on I. Rudra/Tyrannosaurus
- O. Chiron (Rx) on I. Ohno/Chiron
- O. Ascendant with I. Dallas/Damocles/Mars
- O. Saturn with I. Requiem
- O. Lunar Return happens shortly after Inaugural ceremony begins.
- O. Sun natally has stellium with Lucifer/Lie/Tyrannosaurus, close to O. Descendant. (How I didn't notice this before... disclaimer: Sun-Lucifer conjunction does not immediately mean bad person as I have a friend who also has Sun conjunct Lucifer)
- O. Karma conjunct I. Destinn
- O. Pyrrhus on I. Carr, close to I. Uranus
- I. Jupiter still Retrograde
- O. Jupiter (Rx) with I. Sun/Lucifer ...That's interesting...
- O. Saturn straddled by I. Medusa and Pinocchio... I. Pinocchio also with I. Lucifer. I. Mercury also with I. Sun. Interesting transit Stellium here...

I haven't checked trines, quincunxes, oppositions or squares. I'm not sure if I'm going to get the time before inauguration day. I post this in the hopes that A: any bad feelings I get about this are wrong, and B: if anyone has any insights into this analysis, please share.

Love him or hate him... wishing him the best or wishing for impeachment... If anything tragic happens to him, I don't have to tell you the consequences not just to the USA but to the entire world will be dire, as this would become the ultimate Problem/Reaction/Solution overdrive event.

I pray I'm wrong and I pray sanity and common sense prevail ultimately. I'm also wondering if the feelings I've had the past few days (numerous mishaps, rising rage, etc.) aren't a "future shock" of sorts. Better not be, and better just be a rough patch on just my end. So... judging from the charts: Is there a danger?

posted January 18, 2013 02:19 PM            

Edit: This thread should be removed in a couple of days. All astrologers who need to see the information will have seen the charts by then.

posted January 19, 2013 06:57 PM            

Inauguration Draconic Midheaven was very close to Algol from what I see here. I'm not sure how that would play out, to be honest, but definitely something to watch.

Obama Draconic Neptune with Inauguration Draconic Nemesis, both on Aldeberan... Well, natal Neptune on Aldeberan is given as: "Connected with science, art, occultism and mediumship, good intellect, loss through fire, electricity or speculation, but gain through metals, military or scientific instruments, especially if Mars is strong; many journeys, obstacles to domestic happiness, unfavorable for children, danger of accidents and sudden death." I'm not certain what the Draconic Neptune on Aldeberan would normally yield, and with event draconic Nemesis? I'm going to wager public perception will bear a large part in this.

Obama Draconic Kennedy on Inauguration Draconic Mars: I almost want to think Afghanistan plays a part, or perhaps something else. (I'm thinking of Kennedy and the beginnings of Vietnam... or perhaps Cuban Missile Crisis... foretelling of defusing a situation?)

Perhaps I'm looking at this the wrong way and maybe we're seeing what the second term holds, and not just the inauguration event? this is essentially the beginning of his second term after all... As with all things, we'll see...

The draconic versions are listed below. Same setups as the natals.

posted January 20, 2013 10:52 AM            

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posted January 20, 2013 11:03 AM            

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posted January 20, 2013 11:09 AM            

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posted January 20, 2013 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
MAN, he has Lie conjunct his Sun on the natal. the chart never lies!

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Yeah Ami Anne, I agree... Our President Obama has had an unfair BURDEN, dealing with vicious LIES, BECAUSE he's a blackman, and people are RACISTS...

People with malice and HATRED at their core reveal more and more of their sick state of mental health, and the lack of humanity and goodwill in their souls.

LIE conjunct SUN, in the above chart for President Obama in the 6th House of Employees and Handling Crisis, could be possibly related to (for example) the malicious attacks we've seen perpetrated by the 'obstructionists' and those "Birthers" in Congress... This isn't Congress doing the work we hire them to do--- this is treachery, and being done out of spiteful HATRED, not common-sense and cooperation.

USA 11th House: SCORPIO's 15TH degree:
1193 AFRICA (black race) + 1181 LILITH (not accepting, repressed rage, not dealing with the situation), alongside 14 Irene (making Peace), and 3924 Ramirez (being viewed as an intruder and 'not belonging' in the White['s] House). Asteroid 24 Themis is nearby at the 13th degree... (a goddess of destiny and giver of dreams).

For America, HOPE and Healing is not "lost"... It is available... 3405 Asbolus-rx USA Pisces 16th (3rd) (something to say, counsel given, terrible experiences, advice not taken) + 90377 Sedna (life served up raw, extreme terrain of the unconscious, suffering, victimhood).

Asteroid 163693 Atira (bad or mixed introduction to something, better when grounded and down to earth) in 16th degree of Cancer, end of 7th, is cusping the USA 8th House (placidus). Also present are 13th & 14th degree Cancer GUNN cj 111207 BLACK (a blackening spot) cj THE SUN cj 16 PSYCHE (intuitive knowing) cj BOLOGNA.

I hope this means that we AS A NATION will learn from our mistakes-- that we will now evolve and mature to realize this in our psyche and overcoome the racism that has been a 'black blot' on our 'sun' ... It's just a lot of baloney!!

sooo ready for our nation to move FORWARD!

posted January 20, 2013 04:17 PM            

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posted January 20, 2013 04:19 PM            

Also noticed in USA-1 PROGRESSED chart that asteroid 2031 BAM (explosives, explosive situations) in ON THE Progressed Ascendant... 1 degree VIRGO!

Check out 2889 BRNO (assault rifles, 'the enlisted man', VietNam/wwII arena war-vets) is on cusp of USA Natal 5th House [placidus](children, pleasures, taking gambles).

Check out 2929 HARRIS ('sickofitall', school-shooters Columbine, US defense contractors & computerized-healthcharts clouds company "Harris") is conjunct Uranus 8-deg GEMINI in the USA Natal Chart, in the 6th House...

2929 HARRIS + Uranus in Gemini was and is being affected by Christmas 2012 YOD-- Finger Of Yod is the Transiting retrograde JUPITER. And there had been Jupiter-lilith conjunction there. Newtown shooting! Could this have been a 'Trigger' for the sudden and emergic (n-Uranus) interest in our gunlaws. T-Jupiter will be going Direct, and come back over this Harris-Uranus again, first two weeks of March 2013.

Transiting Uranus conjuncted the transiting 4580 CHILD... in USA 4th HOUSE of Home and The People!

USA chart has 4580 CHILD-sr located in PISCES at the 11th degree, in the (intercepted) 3rd House. Transiting 2060 Chiron (wounding, healing) and 10 Hygiea (health, mentalhealth) have been stimulating this area of USA chart.

posted January 20, 2013 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
The Transit North Node to his Natal Kennedy is extremely bothersome. The Gun Control legislation and disputes can be a convenient excuse to create a patsy.
I am concerned but I think he will survive.

Edit: This thread should be removed in a couple of days. All astrologers who need to see the information will have seen the charts by then.

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Yes, President Kennedy was an inspiration... 'ask not what your country can do for YOU, ask what you can do for your COUNTRY'.

NorthNode is a direction to set our sails towards.... especially 9th House in above chart.

Intelligence & Security will be extremely tight, for sure!

Back in WWII, the U.S. Army hired a full-time astrologer, didn't they? SYDNEY OMARR!! I've been watching press-releases... either there's a lot of synchronicity, or there's astrological input being given... (I hope so, with all my heart!)

(BTW: iQ... I was so grateful and honored by your post (somewhere) where you wrote great things about my President... You are from India? I'm sure that his visits to your Country had inspired him deeply... your Country is steeped with a rich spiritual heritage.)

posted January 20, 2013 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
He has Lucifer conj the Sun, too. It just gets better

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No need for smirk Ami Anne... because I totally AGREE!--- President Obama has been already persecuted "as a person" and been put through a lot of HELL during the past 4 years!! His enemies better stop now before we elect him for ANOTHER (3rd-Term)-- 4-more years -- after this 2nd Term is up! They will have him looking like he qualifies for "Sainthood" if they keep it up and don't WORK in Congress this session...

:starsmiley: ahhhh, just havin' fun with you Ami!! We may and DO have our differences, but that's what makes human relating very rich. You are also 'human' and 'err' as I WELL do.... )

posted January 20, 2013 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
He has Moon conjunct Nessus, too.The outside chart has Nemesis conj Sun.

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President Obama's Gemini Moon is in his Taurus 4th House of Home, and deepest psychological experiences... Venus (which rules Taurus) is in Cancer (Moon is the ruler of Cancer AND 4th) in his 5th House of Children.

We know how important his family is to him, and how he tries to preserve a private family man's role in his house, second only to being the President of the U.S.A.

His mother was a white woman, Sagittarius Rising, Sagittarius Sun (cj 12th). His father was black. Can you imagine the psychological toxins (Nessus) endured by him growing up in a Society that used to lynch people for being black or supporting and being friends with them?

President Obama has a 6th House Sun, which is almost 'unaspected' -- absence of Father's influence.

posted January 20, 2013 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
MAN, he has Lie conjunct his Sun on the natal. the chart never lies!

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You can't be serious, all politicians lie, that's not unique to Obama.

As far as the "Lucifer" thing...I don't think that's particularly telling either. At least he didn't send a ton of American citizens off to slaughter and be slaughtered like the last President (Bush), did. Did you bother checking to see where his Lucifer asteroid falls? *raises eyebrow*

The singling out of Obama like he's the evilest dictator ever when we all know we've had Presidents who were way worse, is just inherently nonsensical to me. And in fact, most of the overseas citizens I've encountered were actually grateful the American citizens didn't vote for Romney.

posted January 20, 2013 09:54 PM            

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posted January 20, 2013 11:32 PM            

Stacy... I have come to the same conclusion about SOME asteroids "not" being about any myth or event. I've looked into why that could be? Seems there was a time of just naming the asteroid after the astronomer or mathematician or physicist. Like in ESP, you can be tested and score 20 hits out of 25 tries... But isn't it just spooky when asteroids hit the meanings soooo closely??

yeah.... I asteroids!

posted January 20, 2013 11:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I have lucifer conjunct my sun, mercury, venus. I'm not the antichrist. However that would seem kind of interesting to me lol....
To be honest I don't even think an asteroid that happens to be called lie has any significance. Some of these asteroid names are ridiculous and random. They can't actually interrupted as such.

I'm going to have to say this because its been bothering me for ages, but all these white people are going on and off about how "evil and corrupt he is lol". What proof do you have, you can't expect him to make miracles when the country was already a mess thanks to the previous administration. May I remind you, that was elected TWICE! He's not better than any another politician or worse.
Now all of you who are against him will freak out and say "Ooooohhhhhhh no don't throw the race card", but we all know what this is about

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I think the asteroids do have some significance. Sure, they seem randomly named, but they do seem to work somehow in an astrological context anyway, in terms of referring to what will either be themes in a persons' life, or their experiences, or their traits.

Having said that, I still don't think Lie and Lucifer prove that President Obama is an evil dictator. Especially when most of his policies thus far have been pretty tame and haven't led to massive amounts of deaths like President Bush's, did. And it's always confusing to me that people seem to conveniently forget that, but then refer to Obama as though he's the next Hitler.

To me it just reeks of ignorance where history is concerned, and makes me think a lot of people need to check out a few books from the library and get up to speed so they gain a sense of perspective.

I think it's less a race-based thing and more a lack of knowledge, and to some extent, common-sense, as well as just the ability to sit down and do the math. Because anyone who does all those would never sit around with a straight face and say President Obama is a monster.

Lucifer could play out as meaning he has a lot of pride. Annoying to some people? Sure. Doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna send the world to hell in a hell basket.

posted January 20, 2013 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Kerosene oh yes, I emphatically know it is!! If you're into astrology, look at my posts above...

Stacy... I have come to the same conclusion about SOME asteroids "not" being about any myth or event. I've looked into why that could be? Seems there was a time of just naming the asteroid after the astronomer or mathematician or physicist. Like in ESP, you can be tested and score 20 hits out of 25 tries... But isn't it just spooky when asteroids hit the meanings soooo closely??

yeah.... I asteroids!

QUOTE: "Astrology has its own spy satellites in the sky, and it is a thought to savour that not even the combined efforts of the CIA, Mossad, and MI6 can silence what they have to tell!" --Dennis Elwell

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Yeah, I think the asteroid thing is more about synchronicity than always the literal meaning or origin of the asteroid's name.

Somehow asteroids with a certain name always seem to land up in prominent areas of the chart when it's a theme in that person's life - something they experience alot, or a personal trait, or has to do with someone they know...

The asteroid that has my name in it, is conjunct my Sun. That sort of thing. I've seen it happen too much for it to be a coincidence, or to be able to say that asteroids don't mean anything in a chart.

posted January 21, 2013 12:14 AM              

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Originally posted by StacyLewis:

I think the asteroids do have some significance. Sure, they seem randomly named, but they do seem to work somehow in an astrological context anyway, in terms of referring to what will either be themes in a persons' life, or their experiences, or their traits.

Having said that, I still don't think Lie and Lucifer prove that President Obama is an evil dictator. Especially when most of his policies thus far have been pretty tame and haven't led to massive amounts of deaths like President Bush's, did. And it's always confusing to me that people seem to conveniently forget that, but then refer to Obama as though he's the next Hitler.

To me it just reeks of ignorance where history is concerned, and makes me think a lot of people need to check out a few books from the library and get up to speed so they gain a sense of perspective.

I think it's less a race-based thing and more a lack of knowledge, and to some extent, common-sense, as well as just the ability to sit down and do the math. Because anyone who does all those would never sit around with a straight face and say President Obama is a monster.

Lucifer could play out as meaning he has a lot of pride. Annoying to some people? Sure. Doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna send the world to hell in a hell basket.

And I'm still waiting for these people to post up *Bush's* natal chart with Lucifer and Lie plugged in there, but let's be real here, we know they wont.

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He does not even seem prideful to me lol
Obama seems like a humble man. He came from literally nothing and is a self made man. I respect that quality so much. You can say that he's extremely charming, but I've always been good at reading people and he just seems to an okay human being, like you, me and most people.. that happens to be the president of the most powerful nation in the world hahahaha. I remember when I was quite little bush always irked me, while other members of my family thought he was funny or something stupid like that etc

posted January 21, 2013 12:35 AM            

I went through a period of time where I had to "learn" to trust the Prez. He's got a hell of a lot of power... Can I TRUST that he's gonna be able to trust HIMSELF TO handle all that power in the right way? We have to support him in the ethers. Irreparable HARM could be done to human civilization right now, or we can be the ones who save and raise it out of the mire, and begin on the way to promise for the future...

I know we have an idealistic President. That's one of the BEST things I like about him... I want someone who can "see" the distance; someone who HAS vision.

What my fear was (in the beginning)? I thought that the "bad" people in Congress were gonna be able to "pull the wool" over his 'trusting' eyes, and that he would be "tricked" into making mistakes and agreeing to things that would HURT rather than HELP the people.... especially the disadvantaged!

( well... that's my own pared-down stark personal feelings about my experience of the first term. I honestly feel like I got 'screwed' by all these "deals" he's made with 'the devils' in Congress!... )

My more "rational" self realizes that this is what Democracy is about--- the tossing back and forth of ideas until the best ideas come forth! Unfortunately, some of the ideas mean that people (like me) get HURT, and it's definitely disheartening and can be acutely painful... But wha?... I'm just "a number" to them. Crunch!! ow!

I'm aiming my hopes that ALL of us get to benefit out of the next term. There's a LOT that needs to be fixed. Lot's of government jobs where agencies are NOT doing their WORK... that's wasteful. I can see places that definitely need some TWEAKING to make it right. So, I guess in that way, I agree with the Teabaggers... My roommate looks worried about me when I talk like that! NOPE, I think that THEY have some GOOD points too.... They just need a little 'humanity' added to the mix; otherwise it's not too bad!

So, I watch and wrestle my ideas with the astrology charts... I watch charts and the news... how and where the asteroids indicate things are moving. Since last summer, I think I've got my ideas of where I think things are developing. This excites me, because I have some pet projects for social reform that I've had on off/on since I was a teen in my life. Maybe I'm seeing now that a time could be opening up... and it has already started. I just gotta know how to play my part in the matter.

With the help of astrology, and the asteroids, I'm stepping into something that I would LOVE to help shape... for the good of our Country, and to the benefit of people across the world.

posted January 21, 2013 05:51 PM            

(transcript) http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/21/inaugural-address-presiden t-barack-obama

Diana Ross, We Shall Overcome (Budapest,1996) [5:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnzmPrsLXn8