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posted February 09, 2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sugarplum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have these bad kaali aspects, its in opposition my sun, squares mars, neptune & uranus. since it has to do with kundali energy, will i ever be able to open my chakras? the only good aspects kaali makes is that it sextiles saturn & trines my asc. any feedback will be great.

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posted February 10, 2013 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kaali sextile Saturn takes command, and KAALI trine Ascendant helps overrule the squares.
Kaali opposition Sun is not a bad aspect, it is warning you to not go for Kundalini Yoga just to prove yourself to be different from others.
The square to Mars and Uranus is warning you to do solid groundwork prior to opening chakras for if you force them open, you risk becoming an out of control sexual deviant. Mars conjunct Uranus is an indicator of rashness, so be smart and work on good karmas prior to Kundalini Yoga.

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posted February 26, 2013 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi iQ,

I am relatively new to asteroids and have been reading your posts which are superb. However, it takes a while to sift through threads to find your posts. It would be fantastic if you had articles on some of these for newbies like me to read, e.g., on different aspects with KAALI. You may then be spared from being asked the same questions again. If you think that would take too much time, then I would love to volunteer to sift through threads and pick out and collate useful bits you've contributed on the asteroids, if you think that might be a useful thing to do. I've started something similar for TRANSITS in Brown Owl School. The thing to decide is where would these snippets and articles be saved or accessed.

I have a few questions:
What does Asc conjunct Kaali indicate?
What would be the difference between Asc conjunct Kaali and Asc trine Kaali.
Could you please say what these natal aspects mean -
In addition to Asc trine Kaali,
I have Kaali opp Mercury
Kaali biquintile Jupiter
Kaali trine Osiris and Isis
Kaali trine NN and Vertex
Kaali sextile Psyche and Valentine

What does everyone else think? Wouldn't it be great to have a convenient reference place for iQ's knowledge?

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posted February 26, 2013 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear AstroKeen,
Am working on my notes, am preparing a full correspondence course. There are about 1000 Word Documents worth of my reports scattered all over the web.

Ascendant conjunct Kaali is a highly transformative Life where Kundalini Energy will be sensed strongly throughout life, whether the person understands it or not.
When Asc conjunct Kaali exact in Water Sign, such a person is in danger of being tapped by Astral Parasites/Vampires who wish to consume the near infinite Divine Energy flowing through the person. Lower Beings cannot connect to the Divine, they have chosen to be immortal vampires in the Lower Astral Plane.
Many Asc conjunct Kaali people in water signs, who have certain "Blue Blooded" DNA are programmed from a very young age [some undergo MK-Ultra Mind Control and Monarch Mind Control programs to become sex slaves]
to become celebrities. They have the ability to divert their fans energy to Astral Masters, again without conscious awareness.

Will answer the rest of your questions soon.

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posted February 26, 2013 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey iQ,
Whats the significance of Kaali sextile venus 0 degrees?
I started doing Kundalini yoga when venus was transiting over aries and my natal kaali. That can not be coincidence!
I'm not sure how significant a sextile is with asteroids.

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posted February 27, 2013 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kerosene //R u from India?
A few years ago, some friends and I immersed ourselves into a study of Venus-Kaali aspects as a pointer for Aristocratic "Blue Blooded" [alleged Hybrid-Reptilian Bloodlines spoken of by David Icke], because we found a strong correlation from the charts of European Royalty [especially British].
However, if we leave this specific DNA aside, for the rest of us red-bloods, a positive Venus-Kaali aspect will create success and comforts thanks to Kundalini Yoga. We may not suffer negative Kundalini effects if Venus trines or sextiles Kaali.
And ofcourse, Venus conjunct Kaali would magnify Kundalini Energy, it may create sex addiction as well, cursing powers, blessing powers, you name it.

Venus square Kundalini would indicate potential for harm from Kundalini Yoga, such people should stick to Mental Development or "Gyana Yoga". One of the best examples of this I could find from years of research is a Jain man named "Dadashree". He never did Kundalini Yoga yet had a spontaneous awakening of his Higher Self into his Conscious Mind. I can tell from his writings that he is extremely evolved [He has written one of the best philosophical treatises on Money ever], and his life proves that humanity can manifest Higher Intelligence even without Kundalini Yoga.


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posted February 27, 2013 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
... a positive Venus-Kaali aspect will create success and comforts thanks to Kundalini Yoga.
And of course, Venus conjunct Kaali would magnify Kundalini Energy, it may create sex addiction as well, cursing powers, blessing powers, you name it.

Hi IQ and everyone asking questions, and thanks for the initial answers here already.

Topics like these are why it would be good to have a clearer place for more information on some of the asteroids you've brought up more over the years. Mostly because over time you've written things about Venus conjunct Kaali which you then added to in later years or developed a slightly shifting point of view to some sides of it, which makes it more difficult for the layperson to know which side of all that to hone in on.

As for that need for more information in general, for example, if there is Venus 1'19' conjunct Kaali? Magnified Kundalini powers, but then combine Kaali with conjunct Fox/Nike/Swindle/Adams, and Laotse + Asclepius/Kennedy within a degree? That's just conjunctions, but add in the rest of the aspects and it gets complicated to see through. People will have several aspects, so how do we hone in on what's most relevant with Kaali?

The same Kaali is also semisextile Mahakala (conj ASC) + Tara, and Pluto the other way around. That seems to heighten potential energies even more, but then you add in Kaali sextile (Sco) Nemesis and (Can) Megaira, the Fate avenging marital infidelity and such, and... suddenly it's vengeful things or having to watch your step?
Add in Kaali square Neptune, and Varuna + Psyche the other way. On top of that it's Kaali trine Atlantis and inconjunct at least Spirit + Circe, so what does the average person weigh or pull in the most out of everything that is going to be there?

For example, you bring up Varuna with earthquakes at the following link, http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001124.html , and as in my case Varuna comes with my name asteroid and I have Vedic or Indian ones scattered here and there otherwise in general, a square to Kaali seems like it'd matter. My name/Varuna/Ceres/Pomona and Psyche/Phoenix all square Kaali, making a T-square with Neptune.

Any Kaali aspecting a lot of other things is not easy to get a hold of for someone out to intuit more meaning or coherence from the whole picture of even that one asteroid alone. Basically I'm probably just saying that any more information will always help, and even more if Astro Keen's offer to gather some things together leads to more insights as well.

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posted February 27, 2013 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only thing I can confidently say is Kaali represents a magnifying energy. I feel as if there are contradictory interpretations of kaali.

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posted February 27, 2013 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good points Keela.

To hone in on the exact meaning depends on many factors. The person's basic chart, ethnicity, current level of awareness all matter.
At the very basic level, Asteroid Kaali represents a direct explanation of the way the person will learn/experience Kundalini Energy in the present incarnation if he or she gets awareness of it. Without this awareness, a sense of magnification of the impact of whatever Asteroid Kaali touches will be sensed as a substitute to the real effect.

An analogy can be made with say Sugar.
At the very basic level, Sugar is sweet but those who cannot taste it will still sense it by seeing how ants converge near that which Sugar touches.
Sugar is ok for a starving man, it is poison to the diabetic with 400+ blood sugar level. Sugar is added in different levels for different kinds of food. Organic Tree Sap sugar always beats chemically processed sugar. There are different colours, crystals and basic ingredients to make sugar. Sugar can be fermented to make alcohol and used as a fuel. I hope you understand my point.

So:
1. Kaali in the charts of Royalty shows the strength of the Bloodline. It does not matter whether this bloodline is ALien, Hybrid, Demonic or same as commoners.
2. Kaali aspecting Siva, Mahakala, Rudra, Vishnu, Parvati or Ganesa shows a past life connection to Vedic Tantraik themes.

3. Mathematical Approach:
Kaali conjunct Fox = Increased cunning or love of foxes.
Kaali + Fox + Nike: Victory using cunning is magnified with Yoga.
Kaali + Fox + Nike + Swindle = Magnified cunning leading to victory by swindling others or magnified cunning leading to victory from being swindled. Polarity of the Soul is needed to assess.
Laotse + Aesculapius = Healing using balanced knowledge of Cosmic Force.
Laotse + Aesculapius + Kennedy = Prevention of assassination bid using healing using balanced knowledge of Cosmic Forces.

Put it together, and it means the person will emerge victorious by knowing how Yoga can be used with cunning along with practice of healing using balanced knowledge of Cosmic Forces to prevent getting swindled and ultimately prevent getting killed for trying to do something great for others.

I cannot explain beyond this, if someone needs to know even further, they must meditate and further introspect why they need to know more than this. The contemplation on the "Why" will help gather awareness of deeper meanings when it comes to Esoteric/Occult Asteroids.

And mixing themes never helps unless a gut feeling insists on it.

4. Semi-sextile for Asteroids is a waste of time, it will not work. Rarely does it work even with planets.

5. Stresses to Kaali imply that Kundalini Yoga will have pitfalls. Those with Neptune square Kaali need to be careful and consider why are they even trying Kundalini Yoga?
Avoid it till a top class Guru is found mysteriously.

Asteroid Astrology and Generational Planets Astrology is ultimately for Personal Transformation into better Human Beings.
A person can have EROS conjunct LUST conjunct KARMA and trine Jupiter in a composite, but it is no use analyzing this aspect for months. The couple should instead have a long weekend of sex in as many ways possible, and then think about deeper intricacies of such an aspect.

IMHO, We have to get practical with Astrology to get ahead in all spheres of life.


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posted February 27, 2013 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Hi Kerosene //R u from India?
A few years ago, some friends and I immersed ourselves into a study of Venus-Kaali aspects as a pointer for Aristocratic "Blue Blooded" [alleged Hybrid-Reptilian Bloodlines spoken of by David Icke], because we found a strong correlation from the charts of European Royalty [especially British].
However, if we leave this specific DNA aside, for the rest of us red-bloods, a positive Venus-Kaali aspect will create success and comforts thanks to Kundalini Yoga. We may not suffer negative Kundalini effects if Venus trines or sextiles Kaali.
And ofcourse, Venus conjunct Kaali would magnify Kundalini Energy, it may create sex addiction as well, cursing powers, blessing powers, you name it.

Venus square Kundalini would indicate potential for harm from Kundalini Yoga, such people should stick to Mental Development or "Gyana Yoga". One of the best examples of this I could find from years of research is a Jain man named "Dadashree". He never did Kundalini Yoga yet had a spontaneous awakening of his Higher Self into his Conscious Mind. I can tell from his writings that he is extremely evolved [He has written one of the best philosophical treatises on Money ever], and his life proves that humanity can manifest Higher Intelligence even without Kundalini Yoga.


Hey iQ
Yes my mother has Indian blood, actually her father is a descendant of an Afghani conquerer and war lord. My mother tells me my grandfathers family use to govern bhopal. Her family is very mixed with english blood but I think her direct lineage is not european. Her mother is arab. My father is italian. I'm going to india this summer for the first time!


Also iQ!!!
My mother believes in a lot of the stuff you talk about, reptilians, star seeds etc. She even told me we might have reptilian and pleiadian blood... Can you look at her chart if you have time? She has weird dreams and visions and strong intuition, outer body experiences. She's extremely brave,something similar happened to me once and I started to freak out.
She's not losing her mind, but this woman has always been very sane, grounded and powerful woman...
She use to be very moderate and normal but around 2 years ago she's started have these feelings. I honestly don't know where she got all of this from..
I am starting to believe her but my logical mind can not wrap around this entirely...


IQQQQQQQ!!!! I just saw my mother has moon conjunct Kaali in scorpio... Woah I have to tell her about this, she's looking for answers and I've been trying to find them through astrology..

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posted February 28, 2013 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kerosene,
Your mother and you both have quite a blend of DNA!
Please feel free to email me your natal details, I can explain the most important Psychic/"Starseed" aspects.
Moon conjuct KAALI is very psychic, helpful for "Bhaki Yoga". If the degree is 19-20 Scorpio, then it is a different matter...

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posted February 28, 2013 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi iQ,

Can you explain why the degree matters?

I have Kaali conjunct NN @ 20 Scorpio.

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posted February 28, 2013 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:

Ascendant conjunct Kaali is a highly transformative Life where Kundalini Energy will be sensed strongly throughout life, whether the person understands it or not.
When Asc conjunct Kaali exact in Water Sign, such a person is in danger of being tapped by Astral Parasites/Vampires who wish to consume the near infinite Divine Energy flowing through the person. Lower Beings cannot connect to the Divine, they have chosen to be immortal vampires in the Lower Astral Plane.
Many Asc conjunct Kaali people in water signs, who have certain "Blue Blooded" DNA are programmed from a very young age [some undergo MK-Ultra Mind Control and Monarch Mind Control programs to become sex slaves]
to become celebrities. They have the ability to divert their fans energy to Astral Masters, again without conscious awareness.

Will answer the rest of your questions soon.



Sorry, iQ, I made some errors earlier and I've also excluded the wide orb aspects. I do have the following aspects at less than 2 degrees.
Asc trine Kaali,
Kaali opp Mercury
Kaali trine Osiris and Isis
Kaali trine NN and Vertex
Kaali sextile Psyche

Would love to hear what you think these indicate.

PS. My bf has Asc conjuct Kaali and Samadhi exact. Please tell me what effect Samadhi would have.

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posted February 28, 2013 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks iQ, you can contact me here if you wish, nymphatica@gmail.com

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posted March 01, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Moon conjuct KAALI is very psychic, helpful for "Bhaki Yoga". If the degree is 19-20 Scorpio, then it is a different matter...

To echo Faith's request for information, do you count just the 19th degree or 20' Scorpio as well? And does that apply if it's Siva at 20 Scorpio?

As far as I recall the Sabian symbol is a Conscientious objecter or something like that? "OBEYING HIS CONSCIENCE, A SOLDIER RESISTS ORDERS" seems a positive, even if Blain Bovee also writes "The core energy of 'a soldier derelict in duty' lies in an unerring sense of conscience. However, it does also bring the 'great exception' syndrome wearing the mask of denial of its dangers. Is the 20th degree included also for that instead of just the Fixed star influences I think were at play somewhere in Scorpio?

Scorpio 20. A woman drawing two dark curtains aside. Keywords: courage, to dare, to investigate, suspicious person, to search/to show hidden events/facts.

Scorpio 21. A soldier derelict in duty. Keywords: expectations of others are not met, undisciplined person, to disobey orders, deviation.

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posted March 01, 2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
... Without this awareness, a sense of magnification of the impact of whatever Asteroid Kaali touches will be sensed as a substitute to the real effect.

3. Mathematical Approach:
Kaali conjunct Fox = Increased cunning or love of foxes.
Kaali + Fox + Nike: Victory using cunning is magnified with Yoga.
Kaali + Fox + Nike + Swindle = Magnified cunning leading to victory by swindling others or magnified cunning leading to victory from being swindled. Polarity of the Soul is needed to assess.
Laotse + Aesculapius = Healing using balanced knowledge of Cosmic Force.
Laotse + Aesculapius + Kennedy = Prevention of assassination bid using healing using balanced knowledge of Cosmic Forces.

Put it together, and it means the person will emerge victorious by knowing how Yoga can be used with cunning along with practice of healing using balanced knowledge of Cosmic Forces to prevent getting swindled and ultimately prevent getting killed for trying to do something great for others.

... The contemplation on the "Why" will help gather awareness of deeper meanings when it comes to Esoteric/Occult Asteroids.

5. Stresses to Kaali imply that Kundalini Yoga will have pitfalls. Those with Neptune square Kaali need to be careful and consider why are they even trying Kundalini Yoga?
Avoid it till a top class Guru is found mysteriously.

... IMHO, We have to get practical with Astrology to get ahead in all spheres of life.


Thank you for the long reply and clarification otherwise.

3+5. Interesting. Though again, until "top class guru" is stumbled upon there seems to be little to "do" with Kaali in any particularly practical manner as suggested at the bottom of your post. I haven't touched upon Yoga thus far although certain dreams seemed to translate into nothing but chakra-system talk, for example. Possibly especially with the truth-seeing "Eyes of Shiva" mention even in the dream. *shrug*

The same Kaali-Fox-Nike-Swindle-Adams also exactly trines Abundantia-Victoria-Archaeopteryx, so that's Victory galore enough for me even if mixing themes.

I'll still have to look at all of it more so when the longer list I had elsewhere also has Laotse-Goto-Ask-Tyr flanking Kaali's one side and Asclepius-Hawke-Kalahari-Kennedy-Sirene-Avogadro the other side. Thank you for the assassination avoidance remark so far in any case. Here's to great things we hope.


4. Okay on the semisextiles, but are semisquares or sesquiquadrates (or whatever that 135 degree one was called) more likely to be felt with asteroids?

Those add in Rudra and Jupiter in this case. Not that it precisely matters with the rest.


EDIT:

Ahaha. I forgot. I also have Philosophia conjunct Kaali. Cunningly philosophizing to victory over getting swindled through yoga it is then. Especially so if it's Laotse near Philosophia as well.

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i think 19 scorp is the serpentis degree, widely considered malefic, i think. that's my sn ...

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IQ.... Thank you for your info on Kaali/Venus. Often wondered about kaali in my chart too. It is closely conjunct venus/mercury/wisdom/Varuna in the first house (taurus) and precisely opposite moon and lilith in scorpio in the seventh.... And trine North Node. Btw... Moon is at 19 Scorpio and Kaali is at 19 taurus. What is significance of 19 scorpio that you mentioned earlier
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I wonder if you would be able to provide an interpretation for the additional influences in this mix?

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What about 0° kaali in leo trine parvati and siva

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i have this conj descendant by one degree, (five degrees from sun - imagine that is too much to be meaningful) but conj descendant? any idea how that would play out? i have some ideas how it might but some feedback would clarify.

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@AnoLucis: Bingo!

@Taineberry: As Anoo said, 19 Scorpio is the "Serpentis" Degree, said to be hexed. It has some connection to an ancient tragic memory of the "Draco Reptilian" Invasion of Lyra, the seed Star System of Humanity. This Invasion is deeply embedded in the Collective Unconscious of Humanity, and is the source of inspiration for scores of Science Fiction flicks starting with "Star Trek".
Anybody's guess as to how valid this information is but I always believe that there is no smoke without fire and that Fact is stranger than Fiction. Fiction gives us Professor Moriarty while Fact brings us Ted Bundy....

Kaali opposition Moon in this axis can mean
a) Past existence as a Draco
b) Human Soul who can detect Negative ETs
c) Past Life was rife with rituals to Astral Entities who had been condemned to the Lower Astral Plane due to their invasive activities in the Ancient Universe.

@IndigoMoon: This is a positive aspect for any kind of Yoga Practice.

@Florence: The odds are high that you will attract people who are more intense due to stronger Kundalini Energy Force in them.

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posted March 11, 2013 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi IQ,

I would like to have your interpretation of my kaali natal aspects. I was surprised to find I have a few.

I have Saturn ( chart ruler) trine kaali at 2 degree,kaali trine mercury and venus at -3 degree,conjunct neptune at 3 degree,sextile pluto at -1 degree,and square mars at -2s. I also have rudra sextiles venus at -2..

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@AnoLucis: Bingo!

@Taineberry: As Anoo said, 19 Scorpio is the "Serpentis" Degree, said to be hexed. It has some connection to an ancient tragic memory of the "Draco Reptilian" Invasion of Lyra, the seed Star System of Humanity. This Invasion is deeply embedded in the Collective Unconscious of Humanity, and is the source of inspiration for scores of Science Fiction flicks starting with "Star Trek".
Anybody's guess as to how valid this information is but I always believe that there is no smoke without fire and that Fact is stranger than Fiction. Fiction gives us Professor Moriarty while Fact brings us Ted Bundy....

Kaali opposition Moon in this axis can mean
a) Past existence as a Draco
b) Human Soul who can detect Negative ETs
c) Past Life was rife with rituals to Astral Entities who had been condemned to the Lower Astral Plane due to their invasive activities in the Ancient Universe.



Thanks for the info IQ... Interesting as always. Draco affinity? Maybe, but hopefully not. It is slightly worrying that as a little girl I always used to draw snakes and to this day I dream about mixing venom and blood (mine is rh neg). But..... Honestly, I don't want any dark subconcious stuff lurking in me, even though I know that at times it is there. My conscious intent for this life is nothing more than to embody love and compassion insofar as my limited understanding can grasp these concepts. That is what makes me happy, not the dark stuff.
PS. um, not sure if this is significant, but I believe my higher self name is Lyra (named after the star system? IDK?) - I have gnosis of this name through my inner voice which is quite vocal.

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@Florence: The odds are high that you will attract people who are more intense due to stronger Kundalini Energy Force in them.


ty iQ for that. i was thinking i would be susceptible to the energy but attracting it is a subtle distinction which does make more sense of it.

i don't know then if that does manifest in any way in my chart as in maybe a lack? because i sometimes feel a lack but a purposeful one and then think i am drawing things to me or even turning good things bad. a spiritual friend told me i need to let more light into me and i wonder if this asteroid is a way to understand it. having just had a cursory read of kundalini, am thinking it can be good or bad .. i would really be grateful for any tips on dealing with this kind of energy by virtue of it not being there (i mean in terms of it tending to occur through other people). i suppose it is obvious that i should be thinking good things and maybe trying at the least not to feed off destructive drives but when i have tried, i've still spiraled downwards. well, if you have any idea on how to combat this i would appreciate it but, i will do some more research into kundalini anyway. i also just wanted to feedback my experience of it.

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