posted February 11, 2013 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
I cherish our weird DW connection even with the dramatic square, Psyche delights in the company of her first Eros contact! <3333

*happy Psyche dance* lol still think we were siblings in some weird past lifeline! hahaha given your parents synastry and mine. XD "bro" <3

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you are too incestuous to be my sister!

haha drama is right!

KARMA DRAMA!
These two are totally destined to meet and make a maximum impact upon one another. This cosmic scenario naturally makes for some tempestuous scenes a long with the classic make up/break up dynamic. Just as waves allow the ocean to craft a relentless change to a coastline, this relationship is about long-term transformations. These soulmates often have to face challenges to be with their lover and then the affair becomes its own pressure cooker of change. Its as if, despite their deep and abiding attraction toward one another, neither can be in the relationship as they are. The romance thus proves cathartic with each party ringing in profound changes: personality, belief, goals, lifestyle – even looks. The most instant manifestation of this so-destined love affair is that each person seems to beg in a process of metamorphosis. Some call it crazy love but this destined duo doesn’t give a damn.

posted February 12, 2013 12:40 AM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
both in aries. yawn. if i get anymore mars in me i may aswell shortcut this whole thing and forget men altogether

i do like tulips tho. they are my fav.

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OH GOD, I’M SO IN LOVE!
Let’s be quite clear about this one. It so often kicks off when one or both of the lovers are otherwise involved. Or, for some reason the entire thing is utterly impossible. They meet, sense the heat and feel the fear. Each falls insanely in love and decides to ride it out like a kind of exotic flu. They frequently come across one another when every little thing goes against their romance. There is an initial encounter or two and then nothing. Yet something brings them back into contact with one another and it’s all on — ready or not! Should they be wild enough to go ahead with this rollercoaster romance, they become the couple to watch. Each eggs on the other to fully follow their bliss. They take up all the oxygen in any room – the passion, the bitchery, the ego-conflicts. The sheer heat generated by this pair bonding is beyond belief.

DÉJÀ VU!
Love comes quickly as neither party in this magical pair-bonding can believe their luck. They are often introduced by mutual friends who seem to sense their extreme compatibility well before this couple gets it. Somehow, a bizarre factor seems to come between these two at first – there is always a challenge to overcome. Perhaps the strong presence of an ex-lover? Domineering or disapproving family? Total fear of succumbing to the passion? Whatever it may be. The couple either race off in different directions (yet never quite forgetting the feelings evoked by the other) or become much closer by joining to dissolve the love obstacle. Get between these two at your own peril. More than any other type of couple, they deeply admire one another and will do whatever it takes to protect their romance from toxic emotions or outside interference.

posted February 12, 2013 11:50 AM            

I'm a woman.And I am almost creasy obsessed with this man.
I've got five asteroids in Scorpio + Neptune conjunct Vertex in Scorpio.
But I'm not a plutonian, I'm a Leo with dominant planets 1)Sun 2)mars 3) venus

In natal, I've got 3 little groups in scorpio V :
-Ceres conjunct Juno conjunct Karma
-my Psyche conjunct my Eros
-Vertex conjunct Neptune

now, THE man ¢¾ !
Saturn/Pluto dominant planets
-he has Eros conjunct Chiron natal, in scorpio VIII !! These two asteroids of his conjunct my Karma (0,03), my Ceres,and my Juno (so, 5 asteroids are stuck there)
But I don't know if his Eros can be considered as conjunct with my Psyche, because there are 6 degrees far. However, my Eros + my Psyche + his eros are in the same sign and not very far
My vertex (conjunct Neptune natal), conjuncts his jupiter (his south node sag ruler)

as for HIS Psyche, well, it is in Virgo, conjunct my ...Lust asteroid. (exact)

In virgo, he has also his Vertex conjunct Lucifer natal exact. And these two conjunct : my Venus/lust (south node ruler, SN Libra), my Jupiter and my IC, (natally I've got jupiter /venus conjunct IC)

That is his vertex/antivertex axis conjunct my MC/IC axis

His karma asteroid is conjunct my South Node(2¡Æ) It is also opposite his Vesta, that conjunct my Chiron (1¡Æ)(conjunct NNode)

and I prefer not to talk abour our liliths , (maybe later), it is yet so complex !!! I don't want to make it even more complicate
My questions are: do you think these aspects are responsible for the fact I feel so obsessed by this man ? or it is something else ? Maybe it is just because of Pluto and Mars ? My Sun conjuncts his Pluto, my Mars conjuncts his Pluto, and my Mars conjunct his Moon.
I'm so attracted , it is just as if he had total control over my body and soul.
But we are not yet lovers. Perhaps it is better ? Would it be a "fated" relationship ?
Thank you to have read my post , and thank you in advance for your advice .

posted February 12, 2013 12:42 PM            

#nodallessons

posted February 13, 2013 09:35 AM            

the plutonians sucking all the air dry out of the room again sorry op.

posted February 13, 2013 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by littlefrenchy:
Good evening, I'm French and this is the first time I dare write in this forum ! (because I'm shy). I find this forum very interesting and I often read it. I hope you will forgive me if my english is not very good. I have got questions concerning Eros and Psyche in a synastry . It's too complex for my low level in astrology !!

I'm a woman.And I am almost creasy obsessed with this man.
I've got five asteroids in Scorpio + Neptune conjunct Vertex in Scorpio.
But I'm not a plutonian, I'm a Leo with dominant planets 1)Sun 2)mars 3) venus

In natal, I've got 3 little groups in scorpio V :
-Ceres conjunct Juno conjunct Karma
-my Psyche conjunct my Eros
-Vertex conjunct Neptune

now, THE man ¢¾ !
Saturn/Pluto dominant planets
-he has Eros conjunct Chiron natal, in scorpio VIII !! These two asteroids of his conjunct my Karma (0,03), my Ceres,and my Juno (so, 5 asteroids are stuck there)
But I don't know if his Eros can be considered as conjunct with my Psyche, because there are 6 degrees far. However, my Eros + my Psyche + his eros are in the same sign and not very far
My vertex (conjunct Neptune natal), conjuncts his jupiter (his south node sag ruler)

as for HIS Psyche, well, it is in Virgo, conjunct my ...Lust asteroid. (exact)

In virgo, he has also his Vertex conjunct Lucifer natal exact. And these two conjunct : my Venus/lust (south node ruler, SN Libra), my Jupiter and my IC, (natally I've got jupiter /venus conjunct IC)

That is his vertex/antivertex axis conjunct my MC/IC axis

His karma asteroid is conjunct my South Node(2¡Æ) It is also opposite his Vesta, that conjunct my Chiron (1¡Æ)(conjunct NNode)

and I prefer not to talk abour our liliths , (maybe later), it is yet so complex !!! I don't want to make it even more complicate
My questions are: do you think these aspects are responsible for the fact I feel so obsessed by this man ? or it is something else ? Maybe it is just because of Pluto and Mars ? My Sun conjuncts his Pluto, my Mars conjuncts his Pluto, and my Mars conjunct his Moon.
I'm so attracted , it is just as if he had total control over my body and soul.
But we are not yet lovers. Perhaps it is better ? Would it be a "fated" relationship ?
Thank you to have read my post , and thank you in advance for your advice .

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Asteroids personal effect on you depend on whether or not they make significant aspects to your natal inner planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and in some cases Jupiter) + Angles ( Asc, MC, Vertex, and Dsc.) even if you have all of those asteroids in scorpio if they don't aspect your luminaries the effect is diminished a bit.

His Eros conjunct Chiron in the 8th would imply erotic energy with pain or suffering leading to a plutonian transformation. With your Ceres in Scorpio you probably identify nurturance with intense deep emotional bonding. The way you nurture others lies with emotional contracts to others through acting as a catalyst to transform and heal others i.e healing him or nurturing him. With Juno there in Scorpio conjunct your already viewing him in a spousal way, not only in a nurturing protective manner of ceres. Juno rules over one to one relationships but also a symbol for people in situations were they are powerless i.e victims, women, the disabled, seduction and incest. Again with juno in scorpio your craving emotional,sexual intensity and intimate bonding with a partner. Since Juno is one of the divine wives you probably have moments or spurs of jealously. You want to maintain a exclusive attention when in a relationship with him which would cause your to become very territorial. On the adverse when or if someone touching your Juno denials you, you become even more offended than usual.

Karma would imply a karmic relationship from the past, there could be some duties or past issues that would need to be resolved in order for the two of you to complete your karmic cycle. This is enhanced by his Karma conjunct your South node.

"But I don't know if his Eros can be considered as conjunct with my Psyche, because there are 6 degrees far. However, my Eros + my Psyche + his eros are in the same sign and not very far
My vertex (conjunct Neptune natal), conjuncts his jupiter (his south node sag ruler)"

His eros is considered conjunct your psyche if it appears in the astro aspects chart but its a weak conjunction at least within the context of "soul mate asteroids" but there are other asteroids to show that.

"HIS Psyche, well, it is in Virgo, conjunct my ...Lust asteroid."

posted February 13, 2013 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
^lmao

the plutonians sucking all the air dry out of the room again sorry op.

littlefrenchy, it would be easier to look at if you posted the synastry chart in personal readings. stick a link to it in here, someone might be able to help.

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flossberg check out my new sig!

posted February 13, 2013 04:56 PM            

Something else I would like to ask... Have Chiron and Vesta something to do with love in synastry , or they don't ?
-His Eros/Chiron opposite my Vesta/Moon (exact)
-my NN/Chiron, conjunct his Vesta

It seems to me there is something "heavy" , but I don't understand what it means and I found nothing on French forums about Vesta conjunct or opposite Chiron synastry.

thank you

posted February 13, 2013 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
flossberg check out my new sig!

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posted February 13, 2013 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by littlefrenchy:
To AIL 220,
Many many Thanks to you, for your response.
All you said was very uselful to me. Yes, I "feel" him, but this does not mean he feels the same, I 'm afraid.
I forgot to say that there is not only his Pluto that conjuncts my Sun and Mars, there is also my Pluto which trines his Mars and trines his Sun,but I suppose it is not important enough to counterbalance

Something else I would like to ask... Have Chiron and Vesta something to do with love in synastry , or they don't ?
-His Eros/Chiron opposite my Vesta/Moon (exact)
-my NN/Chiron, conjunct his Vesta

It seems to me there is something "heavy" , but I don't understand what it means and I found nothing on French forums about Vesta conjunct or opposite Chiron synastry.

thank you

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Vesta represents the sacred flame, the hearth, her name comes from the Sanskrit root vas meaning shining.
Vesta's energy is actually associated as a cross in-between of Virgo and Scorpio energy. Virgo and Scorpio have relativity similar symbols except for the Virgo symbol being turned inward and the Scorpio symbol being turned outward. Originally Vesta was associated with Scorpio before the symbol of Scorpio changed over from a snake to the scorpion symbol this was during archaic era of Greece. During this era the great mother goddess was worshiped. Female priestesses perform the duties of guarding the "hearth", purifying holy water and were responible for transmuting sexual energies. These prietesses were not virgins and didn't remain celibate in the same regards as the Roman Vestal virgins. They did remain unmarried and belong to no man. They gave themselves to various men to who came to the temple to honor the great mother goddess by joining in a "sacred union". The idea behind this was the priestesses didn't use sexual relations as a way of gratifying themselves or attract a spouse or even to procreate. It was about creating a divine connection between the Mother Goddess with humanity. If a child was born of a union within the temple they were placed in to the line of royal succession. Even the first king of Roman Romulus was born from a Vestal virgin mother, but he gained his right to the throne by "divine right" he was conceived by the presence of a deity within his mother. As male dominance began to fuel both religious deities i.e. Zeus named the king of all gods, patriarchal rule began to dominate. Vestal virgins were made to remain chaste, because any child born of a vestal virgin while she was in service was considered for royal succession so as a way to prevent this Vestal virgins were forced to take a vow of chastity and celibacy.

Vesta later on became associated with the vestal virgins of the Romans who made beautiful noble women into priestess of the vestalia temples. During their service they were to take vows of chastity and remain celibate for 30 years, once free of their ceremonial duties they were free to marry. These vestal virgins faced harsh punishment that included being sent to death after a severe whipping , bounded and carried to crypt where they would be left to die if they broke the rule of chastity. But Vestal virgins were give special privileges that even noble men didn't possess, they could even set free criminals from being sentenced to death.

Vesta is a lot more sexual then usually stated/ Within the temple of Vesta there was a chest near the "hearth" i.e. sacred flame called the "Penus" within the "Penus" hidden was another "phallic" statue. So yes Vesta does have to do with love synastry while Chiron is more about healing and emotional exchange in-between two people. Share your pain in order to heal yourself and others.

"Something else I would like to ask... Have Chiron and Vesta something to do with love in synastry , or they don't ?
-His Eros/Chiron opposite my Vesta/Moon (exact)
-my NN/Chiron, conjunct his Vesta

It seems to me there is something "heavy" , but I don't understand what it means and I found nothing on French forums about Vesta conjunct or opposite Chiron synastry"

posted February 15, 2013 08:13 AM            

I've started draconic comparison, and as for now,it is interesting

DR Sun /Mars conjunct natal Karma,Ceres, Juno
DR Moon conjuncts natal Antivertex
DR ASC conjuncts natal Neptune

DR ASC conjuncts natal Vertex
DR Vertex conjuncts ASC
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DR Venus conjuncts natal Pluto
DR Chiron/Eros conjuncts Sun
DR Jupiter conjuncts natal Jupiter
DR Lucif/Vertex/Psyche/Merlin conjunts natal ASC
DR Lilith conjuncts South

I still have got much job to do: his natal to my drac , + drac to drac !

I've started my natal to his drac, the 3 first things I can assert for the moment:

-My Drac Sun conjuncts his natal DESC
-My Drac Pluto conjuncts his
Luci/vertex/psyche/Merlin
-My Drac vertex conjunts his natal ASC/DESC axis

ah. OK.