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Kerosene
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posted February 26, 2013 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm seeing this guy with sedna conjunct moon 1 degree?
What does this mean, I'm a little worried lol..

"Sedna is the destroyer.

That is why we refer to Sedna as the Hammer of Thor.

Sedna destroys everything in its path. Saturn is also destructive but Sedna is actually more harmful than Saturn is, and Sedna has more destructive power than Saturn does.

This is a monumental discovery!

When Saturn knocks us down, we can usually get back up. If Sedna knocks us down, it follows up by pounding us into the ground – like a pile driver. Sedna is nasty and mean and possesses the instinct of a bloodthirsty killer. Sedna does not want us to be able to get back up after it knocks us down.

Sedna is symbolic of corruption, lies, and immorality of all kinds. Sedna is ruler of economic and social disasters and upheavals, and moral decay.

Sedna represents ILL-GOTTEN gains, wealth stolen from others, profits made illegally or unethically, or at the expense of others. Sedna also represents wealth accumulated from taking advantage of the weaknesses of others.

Sedna is a moral cancer within our society; Sedna seeks to destroy our moral fiber and our very soul.

In business matters, a corporation with strong Sedna aspects is essentially a vulture and will prey on customers who are morally weak, and sell products that corrupt our souls. Sedna promotes violence, horror and terror. (For example, Sedna aspects are plentiful in companies selling pornography and violent video games.)

Sedna is evil.....
Sedna symbolizes drugs and prostitutes, products that promote violence and or emotionless sex.

Sedna is symbolic of anything that is anti-Christian. More than anything else, Sedna hates Christ and Christians.

Sedna has no conscience whatsoever."

http://www.magiastrology.com/TransNeptunianAstrology/Hammer_of_Thor_part1.php

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posted February 26, 2013 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I should just learn sign language and avoid all verbal communication.

Mercury sq Sedna exact.
and avoid coitus Sedna widely conjunct Mars.

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Kerosene
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posted February 26, 2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No gurl, you should have lots of premarital sex because christians hate that.

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posted February 26, 2013 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ROFL, well do you have any sedna aspects maybe it will balance things out.

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posted February 26, 2013 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope

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posted February 26, 2013 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well here's some info on Sedna. The other side of Sedna is a very neptunian vibe. If your drawn to Neptunian people this could be way you were drawn to him.

THE SEDNA PEOPLE
This is a post about Sedna, the transneptunian dwarf planet which is named after the Inuit Sea Goddess who was also the Ruler of Adlivun, the Underworld which said to be located at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean.
It has an orbit of over 11,000 years. It has the greatest average distance of all the transneptunian objects. It's the most outer of the outer objects in our solar system.

Alison Chester-Lambert wrote some insightful things about Sedna.

pages 172 - 173
From her new book:
THE FUTURE IN THE STARS

Those individuals with prominent Sedna energy will have experience of never really feeling completely at home in the sphere of personal relationships. This might range from feeling a little awkward as though something is perhaps 'missing', to an intangible fear of impending annihilation. The ability to feel completely safe might seem strangely elusive for some unknown reason.

It has been suggested that people whose whole lives are influenced by Sedna's energy will demonstrate these themes. In the first part of their lives they may start attract aggressive, angry and destructive people to them, then later they may comprehensively spurn and dismiss them.

Sedna types might attract damaged lonely souls who themselves abuse and attack as a wounded animal will. Their task is to move out of this pattern, toughen up and get firm with this damaged cycle.

There are better, more fulfilling things lined up for them than this. They should embrace global issues instead. Sedna types march to a different drum beat. The lonely arctic waves of an unsatisfactory relationship will eventually present them with no choice. The howling gales will echo round their soul with the voices of a thousand screaming seagulls. They can shrivel up inside from the loneliness and cold around them, or they can spiritually surge into a no-nonsense awareness of their own strength and authority. I'm not saying that one-to-one relationships are impossible for them, but they will struggle in the same way as Sedna, until they find a channel for all that cosmic and spiritual power. Then one-to-one relationships can be less stressed and laden with energies that shouldn't be played out in this area. Trying to extract or play out Sedna's powerful authority and familiarity with universal suffering in relationship doesn't work. If you resonate to an energy that loves and feels for millions of lives, then how do you live this out within the limits of a tiny personal relationship? You can't. The compassion is too immense, the victimisation needs to be too immense, the pain needs to be too immense.

Sedna feels at one with, and has authority over, the whole of creation. As a planet, she travels nearly to the next Solar System and back. She feels the pain and loneliness of nearly 11,000 years on her own, and responsibility for the essence or soul of creation. If you have the capacity for that much awareness, it's hard to feel content with the mundane aspects of day to day life.

People who resonate with this should try channeling into animal charities. Become concerned about arctic matters. If you choose to eat animals, which Sedna is not oppose to in the myth, try to eat only those animals that you feel were more properly respected.

Become aware that everything is one and you are part of it. Feel your connectedness. Become a caretaker of the planet. The Pagans, Druids, and Wiccans have understood this all along. Sedna has come to give the message a focus, and raise awareness globally. The stakes are too high for any one of us to ignore them.

What Alison wrote about Sedna hits home for me.

Orbs for Sedna in the regular chart (Ecliptic longitude) and Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude)

3 degree for conjunction,opposition,square,trine
2 degree for sextile
1 degree for semisextile, quincunx, semisquare,sesquiquadrate,biquintile,quintile

Orbs for Sedna in Declinations

30 minutes of arc for parallel,contraparallel

Here is some information on Right Ascension and Declination which are regularly used by Astronomers http://astrology.clairvision.org/static/astrologymanual/Right_ascension_and_declin ation.html

Orbs for Sedna Nodes
1 degree for conjunction,opposition,square,trine,sextile

You can calculate Right Ascension,Declination,Sedna Nodes here: http://www.true-node.com/eph1/
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/205240.html

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posted February 26, 2013 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ail, you're awesome! I'm excited about all that information I'm going to be studying it now!
I am drawn to neptunians .He did seem more like a pisces than a taurus. I was surprised because I'm usually not attracted to taureans. Do you think Sedna conjunct moon would give an individual a pisces moon mentality? He's a bit mysterious, its hard to read him.

Also he's not a bad boy at all, definitely not evil or controlling. Maybe Sedna is a blend between pluto and neptune?

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posted February 26, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Head on sideways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kerosene

I must admit to never having seen such associations with Sedna as listed on the Magi Astrology site. Firstly, the goddess figure of Sedna, after whom the asteroid is named, features in Inuit mythology - not Norse. And Thor's hammer is called Mjölnir, so i'm not sure how they've managed to link Thor to the Inuit goddess of the sea.

There's some good information on Sedna in myth and in astrology here:
http://www.falconastrology.com/sedna.htm

here:
http://tribes.tribe.net/asteroid_astrology/thread/c38541b2-294f-4ffe-a881-372758260f66

and here:
http://www.cornerstone-astrology.com/articles/astrology_sedna.htm

Peri on this site a few years ago also wrote this wonderful post about Sedna:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015260.html

I found Peri's post when I was researching Sedna's presence in my 7th house. The part about retrograde Sedna in the 7th with squares and oppositions indicating victimization in relationships prior to first Saturn return as a major life issue to overcome, was totally accurate for me - I lived with a man for several years in my mid 20's who was violent and abusive and its taken me the best part of 12 years since to put it behind me.

I don't think Sedna is in any way represents evil or immorality. She is, however, challenging and powerful and not for the faint of heart.

Hope some of this helps

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posted February 26, 2013 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Thanks Ail, you're awesome! I'm excited about all that information I'm going to be studying it now!
I am drawn to neptunians .He did seem more like a pisces than a taurus. I was surprised because I'm usually not attracted to taureans. Do you think Sedna conjunct moon would give an individual a pisces moon mentality? He's a bit mysterious, its hard to read him.

Also he's not a bad boy at all, definitely not evil or controlling. Maybe Sedna is a blend between pluto and neptune?


Probably the emotional vulnerability of a Pisces moon. Plutonian in the transformative way not the destructive one.
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link: http://darkstarastrology.com/sedna/

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posted February 26, 2013 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
god damn it this thing is on my venus!

Sedna/Venus–You have difficulty in understanding what you can expect in terms of financial support. You let your partner slide on the bills, taking them on yourself, then wonder why you are in debt all the time. Or your partner has a primary control over the finances, and you are left with your nose pressed against the window, scrambling to find a way to finance the things you want and/or need.

^i know someone like this lol! he works. his wife gets everything. poor guy is barely allowed to buy beer!

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posted February 26, 2013 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sedna is your personal c*ck blocker? jk
Is their anything about the moon?
Give us a link pery!!!

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posted February 26, 2013 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sand didn't you say you like pisces a lot?
Maybe its sedna with venus

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posted February 26, 2013 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Sedna is your personal c*ck blocker? jk
Is their anything about the moon?
Give us a link pery!!!

i got it from the links u lazy gemini!

Sedna/Moon–You have difficulty understanding what it takes to build reciprocal intimate relationships in which you give and get emotional support in equivalent portions. You end up with giving more than you should and don’t ask for support when you need it. You may have difficulty forming and sustaining intimate relationships outside the family you grew up with, but you don’t understand why you never “found the right one.”

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posted February 26, 2013 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Sand didn't you say you like pisces a lot?
Maybe its sedna with venus

it's also my h5. neptune also trines my venus (h7 ruler)) so does merc (my h8 ruler)

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posted February 26, 2013 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh it was from the tribes thread. I didn't read the comments ;P

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posted February 27, 2013 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peregrine:
god damn it this thing is on my venus!

Thanks everyone for the links. I'm going through them bit by bit.

It's on my MC, forming a fixed grand cross with Saturn, Uranus, and Mercury. No wonder I'm so weird.

I loved this,from Head on sideways' first link:

quote:
Brown postulates that perhaps a massive unseen object is responsible for Sedna’s mystifying orbit, its gravitational influence keeping Sedna fixed in that far-distant portion of space. This is the 'nemisis theory' the idea that our sun is actually a binary with a yet to be discovered companion star.

Whether that is true or not, Sedna dwells in a remote region of space. This is a distant world whose recent discovery triples the size of our solar system. From her icy surface, the sun seems only a bright star. Extremely cold, bright red, eccentric in orbit and mysterious in constitution (and existance), her first sighting on November 14, 2003, 06:32 AM UT at Palomar Mountain, California marks a shift in human awareness. Nothing this far away has ever been seen before.


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am not sure if the negative aspects of sedna are true - maybe there is some collision with those themes but not sure if it is the sedna person or from without. i do feel destructiveness around me, whether from within or without but it is my understanding that's how astrology works so .. not sure.

it has really helped me with something that has been bothering me for a while -to read this thread. for ages i've felt some affinity with neptune and i tried to understand that through pisces decan in rising sign and moon-neptune aspects but it never felt quite right. but, having sun conjunct chiron and sedna makes sense of this a little.

i have been aware of some aspects of sedna recently and the more i read of the story (especially the one linked to do with the skeleton) really is crystallising some of the images i've been getting and things i've been drawn to.

films:
hannibal - betrayal is a big part of the film (and to do with the father as in the institution of the fbi), underworld and dark, watery lighting and (AND this part of the film only makes sense to me now through the linked myth where the heart is eaten)this bit:

"The main reference to Dante’s work in the movie is the scene depicting Hannibal, Pazzi and his wife watching an opera. The opera is based, according to what the characters say, on the Vita Nuova. Specifically, the piece we hear in the movie is titled "Vide Cor Meum" and is based on the sonnet "A ciascun’alma presa", in chapter 3 of the Vita Nuova.

The sonnet in the Vita Nuova is referenced to in the movie with the name "Vide Cor Meum" since this refers to the Latin words in the prose introduction to the sonnet, which is also part of the Vita Nuova. Beatrice brings in her arms what is recognizable as a heart and murmurs the words "Vide cor tuum" (Here’s your heart, where "Vide cor meum" means here’s my heart) while eating part of the heart. The two figures leave and Dante wakes up. He wants to tell what he has seen in the dream and writes the sonnet "A ciasun’alma presa", the one read by Anthony Hopkins to Pazzi’s wife.

Here’s a free prose translation:

Love seemed cheerful while bringing in its arms a sleeping woman wrapped in a cloth and in its hands my heart.
Love then woke her up and she ate this burning heart; it then went away crying."

taken from http://www.greatdante.net/hannibal.html

this film has meaning for me moreso because i think are chironic themes in it too but especially has the flavour of sedna, i think in light of the story with the skeletal sedna.

the piano: mute woman sent away by her father to be married, her piano left on the beach she arrives on and the person who rescues it does so in exchange for sexual favours. her betrothed finding out, cuts her finger off (seems especially sedna) and she tries to drown herself but then kicks free.

also, just thinking of finger cutting scenes, gwyneth paltrow in the film royal tenenbaums has issues with adopted father(spends all day in the bath too, bit tentative but)and a strange marriage played by the same character as adoptive father. having sought out her real father, he accidentally chops her finger off whilst chopping wood. just seems a strange coincidence for that theme to coalesce around father issues like that.

i have felt a lot, exploring this theme, a strange fear of/desire for/sensation of drowning and this film is another which helps me frame that experience better. am also thinking that ophelia and the novel mill on the floss may have sedna themes.

also sticking on the godfather for father aspects, themes of betrayal and specifically the one where the brother is killed whilst fishing.

not sure if this will make sense to anyone but i definitely understand my interests better through reading about this myth.

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posted March 14, 2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sedna is not evil.
It has to do with the reincarnation and the source.

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posted March 14, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting!!!!!
Can you please elaborate?
You don't seem to be basing it off mythology which very astrology seems to do for minor planets and asteroids..

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posted March 14, 2013 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
interesting!!!!!
Can you please elaborate?
You don't seem to be basing it off mythology which very astrology seems to do for minor planets and asteroids..

Kerosene, i;m not sure if you are referring to my post but this made me review what i wrote and realise it might not make any sense or seem to have any context to astrology. so either way..

i just find that films or other interests that i am fascinated with, replay over and over .. especially for comfort turn out to be in my chart in some ways.

i also read somewhere that film interests can reveal aspects but didn't realise how much till this myth/thread. so me mentioning those films is explaining how i think the aspect explains my interests but also how those films illuminate the aspect, i find it easier to grasp through the film (also maybe because i;m an astrology beginner). think it;s a mix of ... my being attracted to films with sedna (or other aspect) themes and images but also interesting how some motifs seem to coalesce together sometimes.

the myth description which resonated with me for the film hannibal and dante quote was the tribenet one where she takes his heart out of his ribcage.

so, am not saying writers were conscience of a link, that there is a link but that it's a tool for me to feel out the aspect & explains my attraction to xyz cultural things.

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posted March 16, 2013 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The further out the object is the more spiritual it is.
Pluto is an octave of mars.
eris is an octave of pluto.
Sedna is an octave of eris.

Of course they all rule aries and scorpio. But that's beside the point. Mythology doesn't work.

Looking at the whole we are talking about quantum astrology in which there are energy levels. Between eris and sedna = the aura level. pluto and eris the hormone layer.
There are about 60 or more tnos involved.
I've studied them.

For sedna, see einstein, cayce and dolores cannon. They have it conjunct sun.

You are giving sedna a bad name.
Have a good day.

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posted March 17, 2013 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really dislike descriptions that go off mythology and thats why I'm very interested in your studies. Its very informative!

I have eris conjunct mars does is this a good thing? Especially since you described the higher octaves of mars.

I personally do not see eris being a malefic body like other astrologers do, I feel like they're basing their ideas on the mythology of the goddess eris and sedna...

Anywaysss

Can you explain to us what eris and sedna does? Please?
Besides being two very spiritual bodes
I'm still trying to understand these bodies but many articles ideas are very much based on the mythology and that to me is just unrealistic.


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posted March 17, 2013 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SUN CONJUNCT ERIS

ADAMS, JOHN
BEETHOVEN
BLAKE
BEATTY,WARREN
CAINE, MICHAEL
CLOSE, GLEN
CROSS, MARCIA
CROWE, RUSSELL
DICKENS
DION, CELINE
DOWNEY JR, ROBERT
EICHMANN, ADOLPH
EINSTEIN, ALBERT
GACY, JOHN
HARRIS, EMMYLOU
HARRISON,REX
HERSCHELL, WILLIAM
MULRONEY, BRIAN
RUSSELL, KURT
SHAKESPEARE
VOISINE, ROCH
VON BRAUN, WERNER
WEBBER, ANDREW
WHITTAKER, ROGER

Athlete superheros who have ERIS CONJUNCT THE SUN
GORDIE HOWE-HOCKEY
BOBBY ORR-HOCKEY
ROGER BANISTER-BROKE THE 4 MINUTE MILE
GARY KASPAROV-CHESS CHAMP(12 DEG ORB) I USE 15

OTHERS
Maybe ERIS should be called KIRK. After Captain James T Kirk
from Startrek.
WILLIAM SHATNER
LEONARD NIMOY
JIM LOVELL
DAVID SUZUKI
MARIO MONTI (SUPER MARIO)
JACKIE CHAN


Eris is the first chakra in the first layer of the aura. The vital layer.
7 chakras and 7 layers therefore 49 "doors".
Read Barbara ann Brennen's book, Hands of Light.


SUN OPPOSITION ERIS

LAUREN BACALL
ANN BACROFT
BRIDGET BARDOT
ROBERT BLAKE
BLAVATSKY
JIMMY CARTER
LEONARD COHEN
MATT DAMON***************plays a superman type of role
ANGIE DICKINSON
JOHN DIEFENBAKER*************wins a huge majority government
MICHAEL DOUGLAS
JENNA ELFMAN
JANEANE GAROFALO
GLEN GOULD*************bach music
LINDA HAMILTON********superwoman first to get really ripped with muscles
RICHARD HARRIS
PHIL HARTMAN
CHARLETON HESTON*********plays moses
JEREMY IRONS
JESUS*********************************************superman!!!!!!!!
JOHN LENNON 11 DEG ORB
CHRISOPHER REEVE***************he plays superman
SUSAN SARANDON
BRUCE SPRINGTEEN
SYLVIA TYSON
IAN TYSON

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