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Astro keen
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posted March 23, 2013 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi iQ

I found this site where Samadhi aspects for some well known miscreants are listed.

http://markandrewholmes.com/samadhi.html

The author seems to think that Samadhi also means "soullessness, emptiness, amorality, depravity..." etc and corroborates his opinion by listing criminals with seemingly good Samadhi aspects.

Convicted child-murderer David Westerfield - Samadhi sextile Don Quixote.

Myra Hindley - Samadhi in the fourth house, sextile the Sun and square Venus.

Josef Mengele - Samadhi sextile Pluto, square Sekhmet.

Could you cast some light please on how Samadhi could be transformed into depravity? It appears that other conflicting aspects can simply obliterate 'good' asteroid influences. Or could it have been programming and possessions by evil entities?

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imeanj
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posted March 23, 2013 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrokeen - do you remember for Logos how I pointed out for each asteroid there are 4 different characteristics? Positive, Negative, Mundane, and Ceremonial, I feel that this should also be considered with your question. That is, could IQ explain how different characteristics manifest depending on aspects that interact with them? And furthermore, what patterns do we look for in these combinations to determine what characteristic manifests?

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Astro keen
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posted March 26, 2013 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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iQ
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posted March 26, 2013 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I respect Mark a lot for his efforts but IMHO, he is not correct in giving importance to Samadhi sextile "Don Quixote".
First of all, Samadhi is part of the Vedic Theme. If Westerfield had Samadhi sextile Siva [within 2 degree orb for sextile to be effective] in a house other than 6, 8 or 12th and then committed abuse, we would have to think why.

Second, before looking at Asteroids, we HAVE TO ASSESS the whole chart for the factors mentioned by imeanj. Myra and Mengele have horrific charts already. To look at Samadhi for one who has no clue about Karma, Dharma, Gyana is like blaming Argentina for failing to produce a cricketing legend as great as Don Bradman. Duh. Argentina produces Maradonas, America produces NBA Superstars Australia produces cricket legends and India produces corrupt politicians. Horses for Courses.

It is pointless to analyze Isis conjunct Osiris conjunct Horus for Mr Lee "Microprocessor expert" Wu from Shenzen or Shanghai in China. Unless Mr Lee sells his business to attend an archaeology seminar with Zahi Hawass in Cairo. In that case, it would be madness to not consider his Isis conj Osiris conj Horus

For dark siders [we asess this "probability" from the basic chart], we look at Dark Asteroids. It is good to see their good asteroids too, lets say a dozen of them all make good aspects with planets, then perhaps their dark side will diminish.

Chakras matter here too. If a person does not live beyond 3rd Chakra, he can have all the great Asteroid Aspects possible, he will still be a scoundrel. Example of such a case is Ted Bundy.


Example of a Good man: Swami Vivekananda has Sun sextile Samadhi. Anything dark about Swamiji? His only sin was that he died too young.
He has Saturn in 9th [blessed] trine Pluto. This makes him very positive, because Saturn is Chart Ruler. Thus, Dark Side Asteroids have virtually zero impact. He has Nessus square Lust exact but he never even thought of getting to first base in his entire life [one of the most well documented and witnessed life].
If someone has Chart Ruler in 8th square retrograde Saturn, and there is a stellium in 12th with retorgrade Mars, then the tilt is towards dark. In such a chart, if there be Nessus square Lust or Dejanira, the ladies should carry some pepper spray.

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imeanj
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posted March 26, 2013 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just thought this would be good supplement information.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/chakra-system-charts.php

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