posted April 12, 2013 11:10 AM            

Anyways regarding this asteroid I found I have Hebe closely conjunct Chrion in 8th. Opposite my Neptune. square my mars. I'm not sure why by the conjunction to my Venus doesn't show up at 5 degree orb but the mars sq hebe does at 5 degrees. Vertex conjunct Hebe shows up at its 9 degrees

Anyways. I have a friend with Venus opp Saturn who doesn't seem to be as into older guys as I am. I wonder if this has anything to do with it?

posted February 24, 2023 09:34 PM            

Hebe was given two main tasks that we know of; cupbearer to the gods - the bearer who fed ambrosia to the pantheon. Could be something said about seeing Youthful Girls as life bringing, encouraging a species (to put it very bluntly [ew]). Alternatively, she was made to appease Hera's anger in Zeus having helped spawn Herakles/Hercules. An extremely powerful, MASCULINE son. Hera was always offended and required some form of tribute or retribution for Zeus' dalliances, and this seems no exception.

A daughter for a son. We can get into the absolutely rife inc*stual themes that seem everywhere in ancient mythos ... but that is a whole other cup to bear.

HEBE in a chart does seem to have something to do with themes of Youth. Especially the Youth of young women.

I'll use my own placement as example. Juno + Lilith conjunct Hebe in the 9h/Sagittarius. There are many other harsh asteroids that also conjunct, but the main theme is very clear. I was pedestaled as a young child, long before I could even comprehend what these typically older men were doing. It made growing up to learn correct boundaries very confusing, and very dangerous at times.

Themes: youthful placating, p*dophillic attention is unfortunately likely (as we have yet to deal with that in our societies), bringing joy and rejuvenation by means of simply being present, situational attraction to older generations- be careful, as it could VERY likely be a left over learned habit, or even an unconscious way of placating everyone above us by age. It is also very historical that women/femmes tend to be subject to older men's attention. We can even see that playing out aggressively in laws across the US trying to take back that control by means of making healthcare for uterus-having bodies illegal.

Hebe in the houses could be the areas of life we find these themes. Conjunction/aspects to planets can do the same. In the example you gave of Saturn/Hebe, I could see that as being a sense of restriction around those themes, something we have had to learn about from a young age, or will have to learn about deeply in our lives. Saturn grounds whatever it touches into cold hard reality. This can be stabilizing, but also stressful because of the pressure.

Conjunction with Chiron could almost be the opposite. I mentioned earlier that unconscious placating habits from our early lives may play a big role here. Chiron is/can be a wounding, but it is also a place we are hypersensitive to. It can feel good, it can feel bad, but it makes us FEEL regardless of what our logical brain thinks. This can obviously go all kinds of ways, but moral judgement on the self is what Chiron placements tend to be about. In the 8h means that this theme will always be present in your deeply personal relationships. I would be mindful of whether there are 'daughter' archetypes in your life that will bring those themes up to play as well.