posted May 28, 2013 11:43 AM            

Anybody with anything interesting to say about EMP? Is it ties to electromagnetic pulses, or maybe some other explanation for the asteroid? I'd love to see what the asteroid did during the first nuclear tests or with WWII Japan, but I'm away from my usual computers so can't check right now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse

"The abrupt pulse of electromagnetic radiation results from certain types of high-energy explosions, such as a nuclear explosion, or from a suddenly fluctuating magnetic field. The resulting rapidly changing electric fields and magnetic fields may couple with electrical/electronic systems to produce damaging current and voltage surges."

I may be more susceptible to these sorts of things since I already posted about Chernoby conj my Pluto and have Hiroshima on my DC, but what about the rest of you? I also have an additional interest in it since I have mine conjunct Sirius, so given the kind of things people bring up here in relation to that fixed star, I find it interesting. Especially with the Vesuvius blast also there. I'm forgetting something else I had near my Sirius now, so I may add to these.

Mine:
5001 EMP 13 Can 05'
99 Dike 13 Can 19'
Sirius 13 Can 45
Vesuvius 13 Can 58
Kalevala 14 Can 53

EDIT:
15854 (?) Numa 12.58 Can
20355 Dalem 14.47.25 Can
36672 Sidi 14.38 Can
4254 (or was it 4284?) Kaho 14.14.5

Sextile: Haumea-Yes-Gautam-Xerxes-Steed (13.03) Vir, Szpilman 13.47
Trine: Eros-Odin-Allodd etc. 13 Sco

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(nuclear_test) to get the dates for later checks. Possibly related if going by nuclear terms, 8103 Fermi and 67085 Oppenheimer?

"In ancient Greek culture, Dikē (Greek: Δίκη, English translation: "justice") was the spirit of moral order and fair judgement based on immemorial custom, in the sense of socially enforced norms and conventional rules."

posted May 28, 2013 11:46 AM            

"PHASE 104 (CANCER 14°): A VERY OLD MAN FACING A VAST DARK SPACE TO THE NORTHEAST.

KEYNOTE: Fulfillment in transcending and changeless wisdom.

This symbol describes the Wise Old Man, an archetypal figure found in all systems of symbolism. In occult terminology the northeast is the direction from which spiritual-cosmic forces enter the Earth-sphere. This is probably because the polar axis of the Earth is inclined by some 23 degrees away from the exact perpendicular to the plane of its orbit. Thus the actual pole of our globe not only differs from the permanent pole of the Earth's orbit, but constantly changes its direction, successively pointing to several large "circumpolar" stars during the so-called processional cycle (or "tropical year," or Great Polar Cycle), which lasts somewhat less than 26,000 years. Because of this inclination of the polar axis, we have the phenomenon of seasonal change. Supposedly during the early Golden Age no such change occurred; a "perpetual spring" reigned. This is the (traditionally) spiritual state. The Wise Old Man faces the Changeless Reality, the true North —- which for us is located in a northeast direction. He faces the great Void, that apparent Darkness which is an intense Light invisible to our senses.

As this is a fourth stage symbol in the five-fold sequence, there is as usual a hint of technique. Implied is that by consistently and for a long time meditating on the changeless and spiritual reality at the very core of all experiences one can attain the supreme and age-old wisdom. We see in the symbol a way beyond appearances and toward PERMANENCE IN TRUTH."

From Blaine Bovee:

"Cancer 14: A very old man facing a vast dark space to the northeast
Inwardness...

Few Sabian symbols are so starkly clear with archetypal expression.

The northeast is the direction of solitude, of stillness, of individuality in the face of its end, of dreamless sleep, of a mountain standing still... silent firmly grounded in earth, peak reaching to heaven, of silent station while the vastness of being glides by.

Individuals with placements here will naturally have a profound sense of the issues of existing... perhaps a deep sense of one's own existing singled out, wordless, yet filled with silent sense."

Kozminsky symbols for the region:

"13º Cancer: A volcano in active eruption devastating the country for miles around, whilst groups of peasants cling to their little homes.
Denotes one who is born to face danger and to indulge in undertakings of a venturesome nature which yield little profit and entail much trouble. He is rather fixed in his ideas, and may fail to fall in with the views of the majority. Neither will he attempt to escape when the storm is against him. It is a symbol of Pertinacity.

14º Cancer: A crab climbing up an upright iron spear, above which is a circlet of seven stars.
Denotes one who, never daunted by obstacles, opposition, and hardship, will rise by his own effort to a position of dignity and importance in his special sphere. Uniting an iron will to stubbornness of purpose, the native proves his worth, and triumphs. It is a symbol of Irrefragability.

15º Cancer: An auctioneer's hammer lying on a heap of gold money and bank-notes.
Denotes one who acts with craft and sagacity towards his point of attainment and who will ever struggle hard to hold what he gets. His attitude brings material gain, and his methods bring others under his influence. His life will not be without its disappointments, but he is not the man to yield to "set-backs." His philosophy is self preservation. It is a symbol of Disregarding."

posted May 28, 2013 10:47 PM            

Hmm.... I may want to keep backups up to date and make sure they're not on magnetic media... o.O

Sabian for EMP's degree is: "A TRAIN ENTERING A TUNNEL."

I'm going to want to be very careful later when Pluto eventually transits this degree... Early 2030's.

...close to that "Skull Date" from that other thread... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001051.html ...

I wonder... checking... and... EMP at 24 Leo 2'36" on that date.

posted May 29, 2013 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by BlackSeraph:
My 5001 EMP (13° Aqu 20'2" Rx)
- Conjunct
-- Arabic Part of Catastrophe (2nd calc.) (12° Aqu 59'53")
-- 3rd House Cusp (13° Aqu 5'40")
- Square
-- 59800 Astropis (12° Tau 11'17")
-- 2031 BAM (11° Sco 51'59")
-- 2247 Hiroshima (12° Sco 31'24")
-- Uranus (12° Sco 47'38")
-- 12th House Cusp (13° Sco 39'23")
-- 666 Desdemona (14° Sco 31'57")

I'm going to want to be very careful later when Pluto eventually transits this degree... Early 2030's.

...close to that "Skull Date" from that other thread... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001051.html ...

I wonder... checking... and... EMP at 24 Leo 2'36" on that date.

I think I've got a little bit more of a personal project now... let's see what I come up with...

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You seem to have a lot of "catastrophy" or jarring square style action with EMP and Hiroshima/Uranus/BAM/666 with the 12th cusp at least. Thanks for posting the link to the Skull Date thing as well, as I don't think I'd read that recently at least. "Funnily" enough Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was just on here for the first time last Thursday, so I finally got to catch up with that.

I look forward to seeing what you come up with springing from the EMP here. Going by the chart posted in the other thread it'd have EMP square the Sun-Chiron on Algol.

posted May 29, 2013 11:45 AM            

this is right opposite my jupiter by minutes @ 9 leo, 10th house. mine's retro too.

the first thing that popped to mind with this asteroid, was the energy body, as an emp itself, and astral projection, experiencing different frequencies and planes of existence through the projected energy body.
the energy body and astral projection are both linked to breath work/mastery of breath

PHASE 129 (LEO 9°): GLASS BLOWERS SHAPE BEAUTIFUL VASES WITH THEIR CONTROLLED BREATHING.

KEYNOTE: The need to involve one's most spiritual and vital energies in the creative act' if it is to produce significant and beautiful new forms.

The breath represents the power of the spirit, animator of all living manifestations. Because the glass blower uses his breath to shape the glass vessels, he is a fitting symbol of how deeply any creative individual has to involve his total being in his creation. He is also using the fire of the spirit — transpersonal inspiration — or, in another sense, the fire of deeply felt emotions. Any creative activity which does not involve both the "breath" and the "fire" cannot transform into beautiful artworks — or indeed into any new form of order — the raw materials, remains of the past (the "sand").

This fourth stage of the twenty-sixth sequence symbolically shows us the technique required in true and successful transforming activity. It always implies CREATIVE INTENSITY.

posted May 29, 2013 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I've always had strange things happen to me with weather, I can feel the elctricity...once as a child I woke up out screaming trying to get the windows down in my room....my parents ran in and as they did e had a freak hail storm that lasted about 1 minute and took out every window on one side of our house.
I break electronics just by being around them...Digital clocks quit working! I go through cell phones like mad. Hey always stop working....sound issues first, can't hear people or they can't ear me.

EMP leo@2.59
Saturn leo@2.50
Mercury is saggy@3.35
Sun is saggy@4.28
B.M. Lilith aries@2.59
Lucifer leo@3.50

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Have you tried anything to ground things like that if they're regular occurrences with you? Seems like you need either a lightning rod equivalent or something else if so seemingly sensitive. I'm not sure about techniques and the one tip I remember from Ascension symptom lists doesn't seem very useful for you. Just in case though, it was "Treat your old electronic devices as if they were new if you energy levels rise and start short-circuiting things" or something similar, so little use there I imagine if old and less techy is better for you.

Alarm clocks tended to always run 10-15 minutes fast with me though, wherever I was and however new the clock. Give it a day or week or whatever and suddenly it'd run those 10-15 minutes ahead again, either after dropping to the floor or for no apparent reason other than my being its user now. I learned to estimate where I needed to set the alarm based on that but others couldn't really use them after me, since they weren't running quite with the rest of the agreed upon time or something. All of which may be quite descriptive of me as well, but nevermind.

Digital forms like my mobile phone alarms haven't done that but any regular alarm clock used to pull ahead for years at one stage. I'm not saying it's anything to do with EMP, but what you wrote reminded me of that.

Communication being affected with a Mercury-Sun trine to EMP-Saturn-Lucifer (or whatever other possible cause in your chart, if such things really influence your issues) seems funny though, unless the Lucifer adds in an extra mischief causing flavour. Wonder what a Merc-EMP square without all the rest would do then?

posted May 29, 2013 11:59 AM            

Thanks for the energy body talks, I was veering into such directions as some potentials for EMP as well, but couldn't look up any suitable sites to read up on all that again right now.

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
nice. this is the closest i've gotten to finding the other leg to my t sq...aside from orcus at 6 leo

this is right opposite my jupiter by minutes @ 9 leo, 10th house. mine's retro too.

the first thing that popped to mind with this asteroid, was the energy body, as an emp itself, and astral projection, experiencing different frequencies and planes of existence through the projected energy body.
the energy body and astral projection are both linked to breath work/mastery of breath

PHASE 129 (LEO 9°): GLASS BLOWERS SHAPE BEAUTIFUL VASES WITH THEIR CONTROLLED BREATHING.

KEYNOTE: The need to involve one's most spiritual and vital energies in the creative act' if it is to produce significant and beautiful new forms.

The breath represents the power of the spirit, animator of all living manifestations. Because the glass blower uses his breath to shape the glass vessels, he is a fitting symbol of how deeply any creative individual has to involve his total being in his creation. He is also using the fire of the spirit — transpersonal inspiration — or, in another sense, the fire of deeply felt emotions. Any creative activity which does not involve both the "breath" and the "fire" cannot transform into beautiful artworks — or indeed into any new form of order — the raw materials, remains of the past (the "sand").

This fourth stage of the twenty-sixth sequence symbolically shows us the technique required in true and successful transforming activity. It always implies CREATIVE INTENSITY.

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posted May 29, 2013 12:11 PM            

PHASE 130 (LEO 10°): EARLY MORNING DEW SPARKLES AS SUNLIGHT FLOODS THE FIELD.

KEYNOTE: The exalted feeling that rises within the soul of the individual who has successfully passed through the long night which has tested his strength and his faith.

The cold air of night having precipitated upon the field of man's consciousness the moisture of his deepest feelings, this widely spread dew is blessed with the light of significance by the rising sun of the new day. Even tears can be transformed into jewels in the light of victory over night and sorrow.

At this fifth stage of the present sequence we see the potential culmination of the process which began on a note of social and cultural crisis. The would-be reformer has to meet many emotional problems as he begins his work of creation. Creation means transformation; the reformer is actually a transformer if he is truly a creative and inspired individual open to the spirit that "makes everything new." The building of a new society, and of one's renewed personality as well, is just as much a process of artistic creation as the making of a delicate glass vase or a symphony. The Keyword is TRANSFIGURATION.

posted May 29, 2013 12:26 PM            

Oh no...i realized my EMP is square my Kaali?
EMP leo@2.59--10th
Kaali scorp@2.15--1st

posted May 30, 2013 07:27 AM            

My EMP at 2.4 Libra conjuncts the Super Galactic Center....I do not even wish to speculate...

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posted May 30, 2013 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Thank you Keela...actually what you said about treating the old electrical devices as new sounds like a great answer! I guess its kind of what i did with my lil old car...and it's the only car that i NEVER have issues with!
I'd say it's because its a toyota, but i don't know?
I did have the car blessed when ...
Then i always kept a string of Tibetan prayer beads around the rearview mirror for protection, also blessed by Tibetan monks..,,hmm, maybe that helped with grounded my electrical energy?

Oh no...i realized my EMP is square my Kaali?
EMP leo@2.59--10th
Kaali scorp@2.15--1st

My electrical waves squaring my life force energy...
They say when you work out the issues of a square it's one of the most powerful aspects to have, i believe that because ive had other squares to work out...

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I think they use 3200 Phaethon for your own transport or vehicles, though these days there are some other asteroids that tie to cars as well from what I recall. I just don't remember where I read about all that right now. I'd love to hear what your Phaethon says in your chart. Especially with the two stories of what many would attribute to guardian angels stopping your car from moving forward in times of danger, so how about 11911 Angel or maybe Angelica or something in relation to that as well?

Phaethon's myth is a bit grim as well (Or: Aren't most of them?) with Phaethon unable to resist nicking his father Helios' solar chariot and horses and then falling to his death when unable to contain them or going too fast and high. Check out the myth if interested. I had an inexplicable fall with my bike when retrograde Pisces Mars squared my Phaethon... so I tend to take it as applying to transport in my case at least. There is zero reason for me to suddenly start veering or leaning to the left and fall over when cycling on even ground so it's still a question mark on normal levels.

I was thinking of how EMP and Kaali style energy things would correlate last night, but without looking into EMP more it's difficult to say, of course. My Draconic chart again slightly vibes with contacts you bring up though as my draconic Kaali is 12 Capricorn opposite my EMP. As said, my Draco EMP trines Shankar, another Shiva-related asteroid, so maybe I have something going on with those. Energy surges or a grid of one sort or another.

posted May 30, 2013 10:04 AM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
no, this one's not as fun. lol

PHASE 130 (LEO 10°): EARLY MORNING DEW SPARKLES AS SUNLIGHT FLOODS THE FIELD.

KEYNOTE: The exalted feeling that rises within the soul of the individual who has successfully passed through the long night which has tested his strength and his faith.

At this fifth stage of the present sequence we see the potential culmination of the process which began on a note of social and cultural crisis. The would-be reformer has to meet many emotional problems as he begins his work of creation. Creation means transformation; the reformer is actually a transformer if he is truly a creative and inspired individual open to the spirit that "makes everything new." The Keyword is TRANSFIGURATION.

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posted May 30, 2013 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
My EMP is at 0 Scorpio, conjunct my SUN and NEPTUNE by 1 degree, and conjunct KARMA exact. I haven't the foggiest what this might mean - It may add to the Scorpio intensity.

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There we go with EMP then. I'd written a longer reply to your and IQ's comments and at 17:42 or so my time the whole place had a blackout and the power went out. Right after I'd asked IQ about Kenya's blackout of 5 hours on the Pluto square Uranus post. Never say the universe doesn't have a sense of humour. I frequently receive it, it seems. A powercut only under a minute or so here but I still lost my texts. Transit EMP's currently at 16 Pis trine True Node, and no, I don't know what that'd mean either. :P

Still, as for your thing, I was saying something about how interesting it is that EMP is so prominently featured for many people here, and how nobody here has anything more than random ideas at this stage, probably. Your EMP-Karma is in contact with my 29 Libra Uranus trine 0 Pisces Moon as well though, whatever further Uranian effects that may or may not have.

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Originally posted by IQ:
My EMP at 2.4 Libra conjuncts the Super Galactic Center....I do not even wish to speculate...

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Thanks for the discussion remark, I hope for more of it. As said above, electricity failures of one sort or another going on. I had something written about my IC at 2 Lib 36' then having to count for SGC contacts as well if you counted the 2.4 for it, too. Still, I think I like my EMP with Sirius there, whatever it is or isn't. Ubasti, Cardinal, Humboldt and Orpheus also conjunct my SGC-IC, my Wikipedia opposite them. For me to remember, Humboldt "was one of the first to propose that the lands bordering the Atlantic Ocean were once joined (South America and Africa in particular). Later, his five-volume work, Kosmos (1845), attempted to unify the various branches of scientific knowledge".

So...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism

"The electromagnetic force is one of the four fundamental interactions in nature, the other three being the strong interaction, the weak interaction, and gravitation."

"The word electromagnetism is a compound form of two Greek terms, ἢλεκτρον, ēlektron, "amber", and μαγνήτης, magnētēs, "magnet". The science of electromagnetic phenomena is defined in terms of the electromagnetic force, sometimes called the Lorentz force, which includes both electricity and magnetism as elements of one phenomenon."

"Electromagnetic radiation/EMR is produced from other types of energy when created, and it is converted to other types of energy when it is destroyed."

"EMR is classified according to the frequency of its wave. The electromagnetic spectrum, in order of increasing frequency and decreasing wavelength, consists of radio waves, microwaves, infrared radiation, visible light, ultraviolet radiation, X-rays and gamma rays. The eyes of various organisms sense a somewhat variable but relatively small range of frequencies of EMR called the visible spectrum or light."

posted May 30, 2013 12:21 PM            

Wow! Thanks Keela for making the effort twice.

posted May 30, 2013 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Keela:
I think they use 3200 Phaethon for your own transport or vehicles, though these days there are some other asteroids that tie to cars as well from what I recall. I just don't remember where I read about all that right now. I'd love to hear what your Phaethon says in your chart. Especially with the two stories of what many would attribute to guardian angels stopping your car from moving forward in times of danger, so how about 11911 Angel or maybe Angelica or something in relation to that as well?

Phaethon's myth is a bit grim as well (Or: Aren't most of them?) with Phaethon unable to resist nicking his father Helios' solar chariot and horses and then falling to his death when unable to contain them or going too fast and high. Check out the myth if interested. I had an inexplicable fall with my bike when retrograde Pisces Mars squared my Phaethon... so I tend to take it as applying to transport in my case at least. There is zero reason for me to suddenly start veering or leaning to the left and fall over when cycling on even ground so it's still a question mark on normal levels.

I was thinking of how EMP and Kaali style energy things would correlate last night, but without looking into EMP more it's difficult to say, of course. My Draconic chart again slightly vibes with contacts you bring up though as my draconic Kaali is 12 Capricorn opposite my EMP. As said, my Draco EMP trines Shankar, another Shiva-related asteroid, so maybe I have something going on with those. Energy surges or a grid of one sort or another.

I can even relate to your "Own your squares" talk since I'm T-square or Grand Cross central personally. Good luck with your EMP square Kaali and possible grounding method searches. That it's from 10th to first house probably makes it a pretty visible or tangible thing in your life, anyway, I'd imagine.

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I was wondering is your EMP retrograde? Mine is and i wonder if maybe a retrograde EMP would draw the energy into you which would drain electrical energy out of whats around you. Wow, what a downer i must be to be around! LOL
but that would explain the draining of batteries, light bulbs always burn out much sooner than their intended life span, and my phones batteries die sooner than they should also.
What a bit unnerving is Lucifer is retrograde to. Ugh!

posted May 30, 2013 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
My EMP is at 0 Scorpio, conjunct my SUN and NEPTUNE by 1 degree, and conjunct KARMA exact. I haven't the foggiest what this might mean - It may add to the Scorpio intensity.

My EMP is, therefore, conjunct an ASC in synastry!!

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i put phaethon in for a laugh, it conjuncts my pallas to the degree and trines EMP to the degree, and sextiles jupiter...to the degree LOL

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Originally posted by Keela:
I wouldn't say it's not fun, if you've got something suggesting having passed through hardships already and having a whole sunlight-flooded field sparkling one way or another. Electrical sparks? The sun, with its vast magnetic influence on the Earth with solar flares, winds or more? It's not the best to mix water with electricity, but dew on your sparkling fields could symbolically be fun even so if you find the right way. "the reformer is actually a transformer if he is truly a creative and inspired individual open to the spirit that "makes everything new" for renewing everything tying to EMP? The spirit matters there as well.

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i think i do relate to it i think my biggest 'transfiguration' will be next year. i feel like saturn return will be a major metamorphosis BUT im gonna just chill and enjoy this cocoon a bit longer

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There we go with EMP then. I'd written a longer reply to your and IQ's comments and at 17:42 or so my time the whole place had a blackout and the power went out. Right after I'd asked IQ about Kenya's blackout of 5 hours on the Pluto square Uranus post. Never say the universe doesn't have a sense of humour. I frequently receive it, it seems. A powercut only under a minute or so here but I still lost my texts. Transit EMP's currently at 16 Pis trine True Node, and no, I don't know what that'd mean either. :P

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btw you all with points at 2 libra, that's my angel at 3:03 12th house libra

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My draconic EMP is ~17 Scorpio so it's sextile my Mercury and a ton of asteroids. Trine my Lucifer-Alma-Shankar-Tezcatlipoca/Apollo-Oceana-Poesia-Podalarius, as well as Amor-Osiris. No apparent insights from that in my case for now.

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after your electromagnetism post, i did a quick search, and found this: http://developyourenergy.net/qigong-the-power-of-magnetic-fields/