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I'm so cappy
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posted June 06, 2013 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this an indicator of artistic skills or what? I didn't find any info.

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posted June 07, 2013 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it is. MUSA is a composite of
Clio, Euterpe, Thalia, Melpomene, Terpsichore, Erato, Polymnia (Polyhymnia), Urania, and Calliope.

Numbers: 84,27,62,81,18,22,23,33,30 and 57.

Every Muse has a specific gift. If Asteroid Musa is strong in your chart [by being aspect a planet or a powerful degree as per Sabian Symbols], you must check the individual Muses too to pinpoint the maximum natural talent.

Calliope: Muse of heroic or epic poetry.
If your Musa is strong and Calliope conjuncts Sun, then you will identify a lot with characters of epic poems be it Greek or even Mahbharata from India.


Clio: Muse of history
Clio conjunct Uranus in 12th House will allow you to discover hidden historical facts.

Erato: Muse of lyric and love poetry

Euterpe: Muse of music or flutes

Melpomene: Muse of tragedy
Melpomene in 12th House can increase depression by making the person read or see only tragedies.

Polymnia: Muse of sacred poetry or of the mimic art

Terpsichore: Muse of dancing and choral song

Thalia: Muse of comedy
Those with Thalia conjunct Jupiter will be extremely jovial people.

Urania: Muse of astronomy
And perhaps Astrology. I have Uranus conjunct URANIA in 7th House

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I'm so cappy
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posted June 07, 2013 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! This is getting exciting I think my Musa is strong since it conjuncts MC in the 10th by 1 degree. This time I checked out all the muses and wow...


Urania conjunct Clio, 1st house (but different signs)

Melpomene conjunct Erato, 3rd house (different signs again)

Thalia in the 4th house conjunct Mercury and Lilith

Kalliope in the 6th conjunct DSC by 1 degree

Polyhymnia, 9th house

Euterpe conjunct Jupiter but by 5 degrees, 12th house

Terpsichore, 10th house

There are about 15 planetary aspects. Exact aspects are Calliope sextile Uranus, Polyhymnia opposite Pluto and Urania trine NN. Well, NN is not a planet but this one is worth attention. I'm interested in astronomy

I would appreciate your further insight

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posted June 07, 2013 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
If Asteroid Musa is strong in your chart [by being aspect a planet or a powerful degree as per Sabian Symbols], you must check the individual Muses too to pinpoint the maximum natural talent.

Calliope: Muse of heroic or epic poetry.

Clio: Muse of history
Clio conjunct Uranus in 12th House will allow you to discover hidden historical facts.

Erato: Muse of lyric and love poetry
Euterpe: Muse of music or flutes

Melpomene: Muse of tragedy
Melpomene in 12th House can increase depression by making the person read or see only tragedies.

Polymnia: Muse of sacred poetry or of the mimic art
Terpsichore: Muse of dancing and choral song

Thalia: Muse of comedy
Those with Thalia conjunct Jupiter will be extremely jovial people.

Urania: Muse of astronomy


MUSA 600. 57 is Mnemosyne whom I recall was the mother.

Mnemosyne 27 Sco 10 (conj NN 26 Sco 09') 5H
2' trine 12H Saturn.
A degree 10' square 2H Sun.

Draconic Mnemosyne 1 Ari 01, conj MC by ~1,5

Klio 26 Can 31, 12th house and 41' conjunct Saturn.

I've taken Mnemosyne-NN-Saturn-Sun aspects to suggest that memory at least is important in such a case, further emphasized by Klio conj Saturn trine NN I imagine.

"Mnemosyne also presided over a pool in Hades, counterpart to the river Lethe... Dead souls drank from Lethe so they would not remember their past lives when reincarnated. Initiates were encouraged to drink from the river Mnemosyne when they died, instead of Lethe."

Fated to remember?


T-SQUARE:

* Thalia 3 Ari 07 R, 31' conj MC.
Draconic Thalia/MC conj ASC.

* Urania 3 Can 39, 11H and conj East Point/Equatorial Ascendant?

* Erato 3 Cap 26 R, 5H. Conj Draconic Sun by 1d 15'.

Thalia also trines Melpomene 2 Leo 03', 12H

The muse of Comedy Thalia is also one of the three Graces, of whom another is likewise conj my NN, the third conj my name asteroid opposite Neptune.


* Terpsichore 23 Ari 59', 10th house and under a degree conjunct Jupiter.
Draconic Terpsichore 30' conj Sun.

* Polyhymnia 23 Cap 32 R and 6H, square Terpsichore/Jupiter.
Draconic Polyhymnia 27 Tau 23 R, conj SN

* 22 Kalliope 14 Aqu 03 R, 7th
* Euterpe 10 Ari 36 R

600 MUSA 10 Sco 46
"A drowning man is being rescued"
Doesn't seem particularly significant, unless I'm rescued by creativity or use it to save people?

"Outreaching warmth of human character. Saving power of social restraint for too emotional souls. Humanitarian ideals."


Other Sabians:
Mnemosyne 28 Sco The king of the fairies approaching his domain
"Necessary respect for symbolic values holding vital forces. integrated. Self-realization through devotion to the One."

Significant because I also have 1169 Alwine 26 Sco 37 conj NN and Mnemosyne?
"From Germanic roots, Alwine's meaning is 'elf friend; noble friend'. It is derived from alb which means 'elf, supernatural being' ; adal 'noble, honorable' ; wine 'friend'."
In Latin it's apparently also "white, blonde, fair one" or "dawn"?


Thalia: "Two lovers strolling on a secluded walk"
Euterpe: "The ruler of a nation."
Terpsichore: "Blown inward by the wind, the curtains of an open window take the shape of a cornucopia"
Urania: "A cat arguing with a mouse"
Klio: " A violent storm in a canyon filled with expensive homes"
Melpomene: "A mature woman, keeping up with the times, having her hair bobbed."
Erato: "A group of people outfitting a large canoe at the start of a journey by water"
Polyhymnia: "A store filled with precious oriental rugs"
Kalliope: "Two lovebirds sitting on a fence and singing happily"


To recap: I remember things well and have an interest in history, mythologies, dancing, acting, astrology and space. I never much cared for most poetry, and music only in the form of songs or pieces liked. The problem with the muses is that there is nothing specific for art, visual arts or drawing and such left outside the listed things, no sculptors or anything. That there are artists galore as asteroids doesn't help without a specific "painter god" or muse. Apollo doesn't seem a much better fit and Athena seemed more geared toward "crafts", and I was never much for knitting or sewing. I recently checked again and there isn't even a Vincent Van Gogh asteroid. Vincentina conj my ASC or not. ;P

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posted June 22, 2018 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I think Musa is composed of different skills, perhaps even more than these Muses... I don't know.
Asteroid Klio represents history, Clio is the Muse of history, sure... But for example Mercury well aspecting Klio likes to tell anecdotes, little stories of his own, or about anything else, he's not just interested about History, I think. Maybe he enjoys talking about everything in the past, things that happened, tell real stories.. I'm this way and my progressed Klio is well aspecting my Mercury and Jupiter.. And my mother has Klio in 3rd house and she's like this too.

I read that Urania is also the muse of astrology. I started being interested in astrology when my progressed Urania was exactly conjunct my natal Moon. Also my natal Urania is well aspecting my Sun

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posted June 23, 2018 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Yes it is. MUSA is a composite of
Clio, Euterpe, Thalia, Melpomene, Terpsichore, Erato, Polymnia (Polyhymnia), Urania, and Calliope.

Numbers: 84,27,62,81,18,22,23,33,30 and 57.

Every Muse has a specific gift. If Asteroid Musa is strong in your chart [by being aspect a planet or a powerful degree as per Sabian Symbols], you must check the individual Muses too to pinpoint the maximum natural talent.


600 MUSA Aries 25.08 (26th degree)
Sabian
PHASE 26 (ARIES 26): A MAN POSSESSED OF MORE GIFTS THAN HE CAN HOLD.
KEYNOTE: Obsession by potentiality.

MUSA Aries 25+
trines NN-GC Sag H1
trines Pluto-P.o.Fortune-Melpomene Leo H8canc
opp NeptuneRX-UraniaRx Libra H10
quincunx Moon-Actor Virgo H(9)leo
square Uranus-Jupiter Cancer H8canc
.. {ur-jup cancer sextile moon}
sextile SN-Mercury Gemini 27+ H7
.. {merc H7 sextile Pluto H8}

*~ Today

tJuno and tThalia are conjunct the natal MUSA H4.

23 Thalia Gemini 20.56, H7
.. conjunct 2340 Hathor Gem 20.13
.. trine 447 Valentine Aquarius 20.40 H2capr

natal Thalia-Hathor Gemini H7 sextiles...

27 Euterpe Leo 20.01
.. {rejoicing well, Giver of Delight, music} H8canc
quintile Sun Gem H6taur
quintile 1328 Devota-JUNO-rx Scorpio H11
.. and Juno-rx scorp H11 trines Mars Cancer H7gem

(music) My Funny Valentine (Alice Fredenham, Britain's Got Talent) [3:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRKLnmzdwyc

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posted June 23, 2018 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ continuing

The MUSIC you feed on in your life can during times of turmoil and pain be a Resource some can use to salve their wounds, to focus and remind them of their Value, their Worth-- to stand up inside... because You Count.

VENUS Taurus 12+ H5taur
.. rules MC Libra 2+
.. rules H6 taur, w Sun Gem in House of Service

{*breathe* too many asteroid-connections to incorporate! wow.. having to take it slice by slice and slowly}

Venus conjuncts 344 Desiderata Taurus 12.12'
.. quintile Vertex-Angel 24+ Uranus 25+ Cancer H8

(topic) Desiderata (Poem on the essence of life, by Max Ehrmann; w words recited on vid) [2:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T68s9_PWKhQ

Venus 12+ conjunct 57 Mnemosyne Taurus 14.49'
.. quintile Jupiter Cancer H8 sextile Moon.

Mnemosyne also has to do with 'associative' memories, and affect bridges.

H5 is not only associated with The Arts,
but also... Children.

For the 3451 Mentors of this world, who pour themselves out, utilizing their 33154 Talents, for not only the strengthening of the next Generation, but of EVERY Generation--
through the gift of 'inspirational moment'--
in the Atmosphere of Song.

No matter how old we are,
we still have the presence of the creative-seed glow within our souls.
There's an inner-spark within us
to be Loved and Tended--

To the Creatives,
Standing with and Encouraging the innerChild in ALL of us.

(music) You Raise Me Up (Duo Celine Tam & Helene Fischer, December 25, 2017) [4:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTbNTBf5gw4


Adding... omg. The photo-graphics in that Vid have so much symbolic-meaning.
Watch the stage...
The Light that is there, like the Sun.
The Sun is natural ruler of Leo,
which is the natural H5.

Watching the vid, with all the twinkling lights... is like seeing the optics of an astrological chart.

443 Photographica LEO 28.52 H9 Leo
conjuncts
37452 Spirit Leo 27+ .. h42 Zeus, 763 Cupido
208 Lacrimosa Leo 28+.. 1862 Apollo, 6235 Burney-Photographica.

Trine 566 Stereoskopia-rx Sagittarius 26.49..
.. conjunct my NorthNode-GC and
.. 88611 Teharonhiawako-rx Sag 27.58

Photographica Leo is quintile
.. 33 Polyhymnia-rx Scorpio 10.00 H11
.. 966 Muschi-rx 10.12 Scorpio

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 15, 2018 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey...that is my real name "Musa"

I have an asteroid named after me. Yay!!!

It conjunct my Natal Venus/Saturn in the 7th. And it also sextiles Merc exact with a trine aspect to my natal Moon

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