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8th house
South Node Taurus@22
Nibiru taurus@23.53(Draco Selqet taurus@23.24)
Melchior taurus@26.18rx(Algol)
Hades@24.30 rx
minor aspects-
quintile Lucifer leo@3.37/leo saturn@2.50
quadranovile Lilith scorp@4.12
septile B.M. Lilith aries@3.00
semiquintile Mars gemini@29.33 9th house
biquintile venus libra@19.04 1st house
sesqisquare libra pluto@11/libra AC@7 and cap valentine@10/cap IC@8
quadranovile Uranus scorp@4.44
novile Jupiter aries@15.04
very distant trine to moon virgo@18.36
distant sextile to Pallas pisces@17.52/Vesta pisces@20.03


--inconjuncts to saggy and libra--

3rd house
Siva saggy@22.48
Part of Fort. saggy@22.57
Amenhotep saggy@24.14--Giza gemini@24
Ramses saggy@24.55
Tyke saggy@26.26(Galatic Center)

**1st house
Hekate libra@24.20 (Spica@23.30)
Apophis Libra@25.04(draco 9th hs Aigyptios libra@25.17)
Armida libra@26.40(drac 1st hs Venus aqua@27)

**7th house
Asmodeus aries@25.48 sd
Chiron@24.14 rx

**2nd house
NN scorp@22
Godwin scorp@24
Yeshuhua scorp@25
Babylon scorp@25
Devine scorp@27
Union scorp@27

**4th house
cap@27
Byblis cap@27(draco 12th hs Moon cap@27)
Toro cap@25
Vishnu cap@25
**12th house
Excalibur virgo@27
Amfortas virgo@27
Imenhot virgo@27
**10th house
Horus cancer@24.32
Vibhuti cancer@25.31(dr. Pallas/Vesta cancer@26&28)
Gaea cancer@27
Aura cancer@27
My name cancer@27

Draco 8th hs Isis virgo@23
Draco 2nd hs Ptah pisces@23

Niburu-
The new information on Nibiru is more mysterious than its own origins. Not too many people know the true details of Nibiru, and why it exists in our solar system. Planet Nibiru, which was referred by the Sumerians as Planet X, it was supposedly the 12th planet in our solar system. The true meaning of planet Nibiru is 'Planet of Crossing'. In the hydrophilic of Sumerians, and Egyptian, they talked about how planet Nibiru had an elliptical orbit than a normal horizontal orbit. The planet took around 750,000 years to come between Mars and Jupiter, and when it did, it created devastation on all the planets during its flyby.
According to historians, Tiamat, a planet which had lain between Mars and Jupiter around 510,000,000 million years ago, was a victim of Planet X, as Tiamat collided with one of the moon's of Nibiru; it crashed, broke into half, as one half became the asteroid belt, and the other Phobos: Mars moon, while the other half is our home, planet earth. "Out of destruction comes life", a quote from Hindu ancient text 'Bhagvat Gita'.
This strange planet has known to be twenty times bigger than Jupiter, with a burning moon which acts like Nibiru's personal sun. Since Nibiru goes much, much further away from our sun; this theory actually does make sense, and stands out.
***The Anunnaki who are supposedly the citizens of Nibiru, came to planet earth around 25,000 years ago, and gave a lot of knowledge and detail to the developing humanoids; whom at that time didn’t have the brain capacity or thinking power to comprehend what the Anunnaki were saying.***(my insert--im wondering where do they get there info on this? just a myth or theory i guess?)

Even the Mayan predicted the existence of Nibiru, or according to them, a certain dark energy in shape of a planet which would be coming near earth in the distant future. Every time this planet came around, entire civilization from planet earth were wiped out. James McCaney, an expert on Planet Nibiru and Mayan history explained, around 10,000 years ago major devastation occurred which destroyed many civilization on our planet. http://www.krschannel.com/Nibiru-.html

Mnemosyne-"Godess of Memory" she is credited as being the mother of the muse, Mnemosyne set in motion through the workings of her daughters the eternal guiding light over one’s choice of words and thus logic itself… propelling mortal humans upwards, in effect, to the stratosphere of gods. http://matrixbookstore.biz/mnemosyne.htm

The story of Armida-
Armida was a Saracen sorceress and Rinaldo, he was a soldier in the First Crusade, the story was created by the Italian poet Torquato Tasso. In his epic Gerusalemme liberata, Rinaldo is a fierce and determined warrior who is also honorable and handsome. Armida has been sent to stop the Christians from completing their mission and is about to murder the sleeping soldier, but instead she falls in love. She creates an enchanted garden where she holds him a lovesick prisoner. Eventually two of his fellow Crusaders find him and hold a shield to his face, so he can see his image and remember who he is. Rinaldo barely can resist Armida’s pleadings, but his comrades insist that he return to his Christian duties.

Many painters and composers were inspired by Tasso's tale. The works that resulted often added or subtracted an element; Tasso himself continued to edit the story for years. In some versions, Armida is converted to Christianity, in others, she rages and destroys her own enchanted garden. She occupies a place in the literature of abandoned women such as the tragic Dido, who committed suicide, and the evil Circe, whom Odysseus abandoned to complete his voyage, but she is considered by many to be more human, and thus more compelling and sympathetic, than either of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armida

BYBLIS (Bublis), a daughter of Miletus and Eidothea (others call her mother Tragasia or Areia), and sister of Caunus. The story about her is related in different ways. One tradition is, that Caunus loved his sister with more than brotherly affection, and as he could not get over this feeling, he quitted his father's home and Miletus, and settled in Lycia. Byblis, deeply grieved at the flight of her brother, went out to seek him, and having wandered about for a long time, hung herself by means of her girdle. Out of her tears arose the well Byblis. (Parthen. Erot. 11; Conon, Narrat. 2.) According to another tradition, Byblis herself was seized with a hopeless passion for her brother, and as in her despair she was on the point of leaping from a rock into the sea, she was kept back by nymphs, who sent her into a profound sleep. In this sleep she was made an immortal Hamadryas; and the little stream which came down that rock was called by the neighboring people the tears of Byblis. http://www.theoi.com/Nymphe/NympheByblis.html

Byblos;Biblia;Bible
The word Bible originated from the Greek word biblia, which derived from the name of an ancient Phoenician city, Byblos, where papyrus, a material used to record ancient writings, was exported.
(n.)http://www.exactingtruth.com/ResourceCenterBibleDefined.html

Taurus 22: White dove over troubled waters

"White dove over troubled waters"
Theme: Guidance
Inspiration: Happily, spirit guides the human ego whether recognized or not.
Guidance, of the sort all deeply long for, is operative whether consciously known or not.

The white dove rising above troubled waters just as spirit guides and protects a man's life-purpose and path.

Be alert for unexpected breakthroughs of the sort that attune to something of beauty within now deeply re-called.

North Node Scorp@22

Scorpio 22
Sabian Symbol: A group of hunters protected by heavy clothing making their way out into the marsh to shoot wild ducks.

Theme: Behind the blind

Keeping out of sight, making one thing appear as another, carefully disguising a situation. It is suggested that one hold back… hide, so to speak… rather than stretch the limits of truth with claims of knowing what is going on.

The curious thing about all fixed 22nd degree symbology is the instinctive homing urge to return to safety, yet by so returning, one may be blindly headed towards danger. Therefore, one might ask, are you a duck, or a hunter? http://sabiansymbol.typepad.com/blain_bovee_sabian_symbol/

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Mnemosyne-"Godess of Memory" she is credited as being the mother of the muse, Mnemosyne set in motion through the workings of her daughters the eternal guiding light over one’s choice of words and thus logic itself… propelling mortal humans upwards, in effect, to the stratosphere of gods. http://matrixbookstore.biz/mnemosyne.htm

Does the matrixbookstore site have something particular or weird about it? I get "You are not authorized to view this page
The Web server you are attempting to reach has a list of IP addresses that are not allowed to access the Web site, and the IP address of your browsing computer is on this list" when trying the link and that's never happened with anything else before. US only or something?

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Sorry Keela, im not sure why you get that message. Ill copy and paste the page for you!

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"The Goddess Mnemosyne of Greek Mythology"

Of all the personages of Greek mythology, the titaness Mnemosyne (Greek goddess of memory) is perhaps the most deserving of further notoriety. Whether goddesses like Mnemosyne exist as living-breathing entities, in spirit or merely effectively (explained further below), she is one of the most influential as demonstrated by her astoundingly powerful influence over creativity. This is evidenced by the tens of thousands of Promethean (daringly original or creative) writers, artists and musicians throughout the world otherwise unexplained. Credited as being the mother of the muse, Mnemosyne set in motion through the workings of her daughters the eternal guiding light over one’s choice of words and thus logic itself… propelling mortal humans upwards, in effect, to the stratosphere of gods.

While neither the scientific community nor organized religions have ever accepted Greek mythology as having an ounce of truth, nonetheless it explains best man’s wondrous abilities such as creativity and his capacity to remember. In this, Greek mythology claims Mnemosyne was responsible but importantly - underlying this contention and those within other tales, largely allegorical - Greek mythology reveals much more than commonly thought.

While at some point in history the term ‘myth’ became associated with “an unfounded or false notion”, assuredly due to the efforts of the Catholic Church who earlier campaigned to discredit Greek mythology, the primary and original definition is “a traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon”.

Until the Sumerians developed the art of writing in 3,000 B.C., the only method available for passing along ancient wisdom was orally. While there is always the possibility something could be lost or exaggerated in the re-telling - although a written account is not immune from inaccuracies either - Greek mythology provides a general idea the thinking in ancient times going back to the Stone Age. Consisting of unfettered imaginations and spiritual persuasions - a type of mentality capable of profound brilliance - it provides insights into our otherwise mysterious being.

"The associations of Mnemosyne"

While it may be mythological conjecture that Mnemosyne is the daughter of Uranus (sky) and Gaia (mother earth), or that her daughters were fathered by Zeus, overriding any uncertainty is that her existence is as real as any other effective reality. In other words, all realities are based on perceptions but more-so fragile are the human perceptions of phenomena which - despite their unknown properties - are real nonetheless.... hence 'effectively real'.

As for the goddess Mnemosyne, she represents those mysteries associated with memory and inspiration otherwise unexplained (or explained incorrectly) and therefore (at the very least) effectively exists as much as any phenomenon effectively exists. After all, just like the terms ‘god’ and ‘guardian angels’, all mysteries have (or need) a label to represent them which would include the unexplained (but nonetheless apparent) influences. Labels are also needed to represent the missing pieces.

While a word (nomenclature) for a phenomenon could be considered representative - without committing itself to any particular cause - but this neglect would be like uttering an incomplete sentence. On the other hand, it is not the job of lexicographers to cite reasons... rightly saying, in effect, "you figure it out". Yet, curiously, society seems content with matters left hanging... even those begging for a reason. Of course, it's been the norm for ages.

To be clear the meaning of 'inspiration' (in this sense), it is "a divine influence or action on a person believed to qualify him to receive and communicate sacred revelation" and "the action or power of moving the intellect or emotions".

Similarly, before it was scientifically identified, even oxygen had some type of representation in the minds of the ancients… fascinated with the magical qualities of breathing. Whether from a spiritual perspective or analyzed on the plane of mechanical explanations, they at least knew air was where the mysterious element resided which was imperative to life.

While everything identifiable is destined to be given a name - which would include phenomena not yet understood - the difference with Greek mythology is that by claiming an entity such as Mnemosyne is responsible for memory, or that she is responsible for inspiration (creativity), it adds ‘cause’ to the ‘representation’. While it would be presumptuous to designate a cause without proof, likewise presumptuous would be the notion that life is god-given… a common religious contention. However, similarly presumptuous is the scientific community in denying the spirit world through their endless mechanical explanations. Their contention as to the role of the subconscious mind is just one example… it being much more than scientifically acknowledged. Omissions, after all, would be equally presumptuous.

The omission in this case is that mechanical explanations overlook ‘purpose’… ignoring the deeper questions as to why life and its functions exist. In other words, it would be presumptuous to believe there is no purpose. Purpose, of course, is indicative of a divine presence and the prime reason science ignores it.

"Degrees of presumptiveness and metaphysical differences"

While there will always be a degree of presumptiveness within one’s explanation of phenomena even if it’s in the ballpark… invariably due to the commonplace and understandable misinterpretations of the spirit world… there will always be someone’s accounting which is closest to the truth. Of course, mortals wouldn’t know which it might be unless they've been spiritually enlightened through the Divine Intellect (divine intelligence). Until then, one can only guess which contentions of religions and mythology are the most insightful. Science, on the other hand, while still mired in the pit of denial has no insight-fulness whatsoever.

Greek mythology and religions are most notably different from science however because they are largely allegorical and daringly specific by citing the names of metaphysical entities and the events which allegedly unfolded… although the characters and events within their stories are completely different from each other. For example, Zeus, Apollo and the goddess Mnemosyne have no place whatsoever within the tales of conventional religions. Yet, they’re still in the same ballpark.

To be clear the meaning of 'allegory', it is "the expression by means of symbolic fictional figures and actions of truths and generalizations about human existence" and the derivative 'allegorical' means "having hidden spiritual meaning that transcends the literal sense of a sacred text".

Despite these differences, there are benefits from having representations based upon a believed cause even if the belief is wrong because it demonstrates disagreement with any established premise. It keeps matters openly argumentative as no institution should have jurisdiction. Jurisdictions, after all, are the executioners of progress. Without the accounting's of religions and mythology, explanations would go begging as is the case with scientific (mechanical) explanations. In order to grasp the role of a particular phenomenon, it needs to be symbolically represented in some fashion which science won’t do… due to the methodical nature of scientific inquiry. As a result, the missing pieces (gaps) within scientific knowledge are huge.

Yet, some phenomena aren’t represented by religions whereas they are within Greek mythology… inspiration (creativity) for example. Only Greek mythology recognizes it as a phenomenon and the reason it is represented by the muse of Greek mythology… more specifically as the doings of the muse (the cause). Actually, the sciences and religions have failed to distinguish as sovereign almost every aspect of humanity. If not for Greek mythology, love, jealousy and our warring nature would also go begging for a reason. Psychologists and psychiatrists typically offer only their mechanical explanations while religions have only two buckets to put it in… that of good and evil (although true in the broader sense).

While there is little or no evidence concerning metaphysics lying about within any camp, whether scientific, religious or mythology, at least people know when something rings true… and science, we know, has never rang true when it comes to metaphysics. After all, from the scientific point-of-view, even God is mythical (in the sense of being 'an unfounded or false notion’… the latter-day definition of myth).

Religions, on the other hand, seem only partially right as most religions became ad hoc religions over time... existing now on foundations only partially of truths. It was also for institutional gain that they discredited polytheism only to adopt the same practices. As institutions now... they've shot themselves in the foot.

"The lure of Greek mythology"

Conversely, there is something especially heartfelt about Greek mythology… indicating it is more than a collection of fairytales. Importantly, it provides a service to mankind by pointing out his godly abilities otherwise ignored as such. Only the matter as to how these godly abilities were obtained should be subject to question. In other words, we can’t discount the biblical accounting as it too contains truths.

Without question, biblical accounts and especially Greek mythology have provided mankind a much better picture than science even though those pictures may not be accurate in precise terms. While their versions vary greatly, this is to be expected in the hazy ballpark of spiritual realities. Versions and allegories will always be the case. Nonetheless, something similar to the biblical tales or those within Greek mythology occurred.

Depictions of the spirit world will always raise doubts however due to its mystical nature and because languages (semantics) are incapable of accurately describing anything metaphysical in ways humans can relate. It is an extralinguistic subject. Symbolism is all there is to work with in trying to clarify an otherwise very vague picture… and it is this vagueness which conjures up the idea of ‘mystical’. Only mechanical explanations can escape this ominous-sounding tag... except it demonstrates an unwillingness to venture into this territory.

Largely due to the mystical qualities of the spirit world, Greek mythology may often seem a collection of outrageous (unbelievable) contentions… but equally outrageous would be religious contentions and even the fact oxygen freely exists in our atmosphere which humans breathe to exist. If we didn’t already know the wonders of life and those of the human body first-hand, the list of the unbelievable would be nearly endless.

Also, whether there were instances in which mortals (human beings) interacted with the immortal gods and titans such as Mnemosyne as depicted in Greek mythology… well, interactions are a matter of degree. For example, as we have begun to appreciate in modern times, we need not be standing next to someone in order to be in contact. Spiritual contacts in one form or another do exist but continue to go unrecognized scientifically… as did the possibility of radio and television 200 years ago.

"Mnemosyne during the Stone Age"

However, far more advanced than the mechanical devices of the modern age, extra sensory perception (ESP) was surely recognized as far back as the Stone Age. This was due to the prevalence of the spiritual (and thus empirical) mindset… being more capable to recognize the origins of metaphysical wonders upon which Greek mythology was founded. In some spiritual sense, albeit indefinable, the ancients were obviously cognizant of the gods and goddesses such as Zeus and Mnemosyne but of equal importance… they profoundly deduced that earth was actually alive.

While gods and goddesses may seem a bizarre concept, being out in left field, a living earth is something humans can more easily relate to. This complex perpetual motion machine of harmoniously juggled wonders capable of creating and sustaining life is called "Gaia".

Establishing that earth is actually alive would serve as proof the veracity of Greek mythology… an easier task for mortals than finding proof the existence of gods and goddesses. Since the inanimateness of its individual elements isn't proof the earth is not alive (as a whole), the magnificence resulting from all that which earth consists is indicative of a life form. After all, the human body consists of elements as well... individually adjudged inert. It seems certain the scope and complexity of earth, its magnificence, cannot be maintained by anything less than a life form… albeit a higher life form. For that matter, in that beauty and divine are synonymous, anything magnificent may be 'alive'. At any rate, to the extent we can conceptualize one… earth is effectively a god. While it is not the supreme god, as our role-playing sun can testify to, its godly life-giving attributes suggests nothing less… assuming, of course, that anything having greater powers than man would be a god.

While in agreement with the biblical account that God created earth, that doesn't necessarily mean this multifaceted perpetual motion machine isn't alive. This wasn't touched upon in the bible however... perhaps because the fact wasn't conveyed, it wasn't deciphered or purposefully omitted by the unknown author of Genesis as being beyond human understanding.

"Insightfulness of Greek mythology"

In that most people consider God Almighty as fact, being necessary to explain the wonders of creation, but despite being unknowable in linguistic terms… God symbolically represents the cause (and master) of all creation. With this in mind, it shouldn’t seem odd that ‘creativity’ should also be symbolically represented in some fashion. Far ahead in the realm of spiritual insightfulness… the progenitors of Greek mythology not only saw there was a driving force behind creativeness (inspiration) which science has yet to recognize, or even religions, but ventured onward to identify the cause.

However, while the authors identified the cause as being the goddess Mnemosyne, it is uncertain whether it was based upon actual knowledge or extrapolated from just partial knowledge. In other words, since obviously creativeness and memory would be subcategories of the greater scheme residing at some level of architectural importance, an ‘organizational chart’ may have been developed which would account for mythology's lesser gods being in charge. Of course, their accuracy would depend on how close they got to the subject. If not standing in the doorway, much of Greek mythology says at least they were on the doorsteps.

So… either through envisioning the schema of spiritual realities the authors extrapolated the existence of spiritual entities such as (lesser) gods and goddesses and then named them… or, they were privy to some degree as to the actual names, roles and events. Still, due to the fogginess of spiritual realities they likely got some of it wrong. Also shrouding the simpler truths would be the later additions designed to 'spice up' the stories. For example, Zeus may not have 'chained and tortured' the titan Prometheus for 'stealing' fire from heaven and giving it to man. It might even be largely contrived. Yet, there's something godly about fire (electricity) as if it wasn't originally intended for mankind. After all, electricity has also empowered maleficence.

"Dashing doubts of the goddess Mnemosyne"

As to any doubts the goddess Mnemosyne was responsible, literally or in terms of equivalency, consider the insightfulness of Greek mythology which is evident in its recognition of the individual godly traits within humans. Any godly traits whatsoever would indicate some connection to God and/or lesser gods which would automatically create the possibility the progenitors of Greek mythology were privy to knowledge of metaphysical events. Through this 'tie that binds', their acquired knowledge would have been responsible for the various and original tales within Greek mythology. However, in order to separate the wheat from the chaff, the later additions designed to make Greek mythology more endearing should be set aside. The common themes within the variations would be the best indicator of truths while anything overly specific should cast doubts. As is the case with religious institutions, not even mythology is immune from the temptation to tinker with the facts.

While Homer and Hesiod may have 'created' Greek mythology sometime during 700-800 B.C., the possibility is stronger their writings were based largely on earlier tales, hymns and poetry... the vestiges of ancient wisdom which preceded them. Since fact is often stranger than fiction, this might explain why the astonishing works of Homer and Hesiod are considered creative genius. Poetry would have been a readily available source... believed very popular in ancient times and first to make use of the written word. Recapturing the magic of this metaphysical poetry was the 17th century.

As said, while Greek mythology may often seem more outrageous than the contentions of science and religions, it's largely because we’re less familiar. Yet, all previously unknown wonders existed in ways totally unexpected and therefore outrageous explanations should not be pre-judged on merit. After all, since straight-line thinking (logic) would be incapable of imagining any of our current senses (if otherwise unknown), not even over the course of 10,000 years… it would be nearly as difficult for logic to rationalize a goddess such a Mnemosyne whether as a living-breathing entity residing in some unknown place or existing in spirit form.

However, even though there is no proof Mnemosyne is a living-breathing entity or spirit, it is typical for the spiritual-minded to conclude that a representative of a spiritual phenomenon must be a 'person' and not something inanimate... hence 'God', 'guardian angels', 'Mnemosyne' and so forth. Contrarily, of course, science believes the magnificence of earth and body were created inanimately while at the same time crediting people for great inventions.

Depending on the schema of spiritual realities one subscribes to, the only variable is 'who'. Whoever these spiritual entities are however, or whichever is believed the most likely candidate, they're as effectively real as the phenomenon the represent... as effectively real as a paperboy we've never seen.

"Gaia... the inanimate god"

Scientific logic can’t say Gaia doesn’t exist either… that there isn’t an actual ‘Mother Earth’. The same thing applies to our sun... also being heartfelt that the scientific explanation is merely mechanical. It is especially suspect since science doesn’t know yet what life entails… meaning life forms could exist in a variety of ways beyond current understanding. Soil, for example, can either be dead or alive depending upon the presence of other factors even though, scientifically, those factors are either inanimate or have inanimate origins.

It is an oxymoron that the mystery of life is an accepted reality to science being at odds with the methodical process of scientific inquiry. Of course, life is ‘living proof’ whereas other metaphysical mysteries aren’t so obvious which would include goddesses such as Mnemosyne. Still, this single act of acceptance (life) spotlights the true and limited role of scientific inquiry. It is merely a tool.

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Hmmm.. I'm interested. Hopefully, I will be able to respond in more depth later. I plan to.. But, I am not sure how my night will be going yet lol. (of course, then again, this is addressed to IQ.. But.. I could give my input, if you are at all curious on what I think..)

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Hmmm.. I'm interested. Hopefully, I will be able to respond in more depth later. I plan to.. But, I am not sure how my night will be going yet lol. (of course, then again, this is addressed to IQ.. But.. I could give my input, if you are at all curious on what I think..)

Always RTS95, your insights are awesome!

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Sorry I have not really said much yet.. Sometimes I have moments of a bit of burn out in regards to some of these topics lol..

I will continue to think of how these aspects could interact.. But..

Every time I hear of Nibiru, I am reminded of this dream I had when I was about 11-12.. If you are interested, I'd be interested in sharing the dream on this page.. I'm kind of curious on your input on it.. And of course, other peoples' input too..

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Sorry I have not really said much yet.. Sometimes I have moments of a bit of burn out in regards to some of these topics lol..

I will continue to think of how these aspects could interact.. But..

Every time I hear of Nibiru, I am reminded of this dream I had when I was about 11-12.. If you are interested, I'd be interested in sharing the dream on this page.. I'm kind of curious on your input on it.. And of course, other peoples' input too..


I'd love to hear your dream....Please share!

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Ok.. So.. As I said.. This was around the age of 11-12.. I remember being in Elementary school (5th grade to be specific..)

I remember, it was right around that age where I randomly began to ponder that maybe humanity was somehow a creation of Extraterrestrials.. Of course, I mainly pushed that thought away at that age, because it made me uncomfortable.. The thought seemed oddly reasonable.. Seemed too oddly familiar.. And just, real. But, as I said.. The thought kind of scared me, because I didn't really understand why we were created from another race.. And at that point in my life, I only really knew of 'God' in the sense of a Man in the sky who created everything lol.. So.. Yeah.. Even though the thought hit me deeply, and as I said.. As familiar as it sounded, I pushed the thought away.. I think I was actually even possibly younger than 11 when I started pondering these thoughts, and the existence of other beings outside of Earth. It all seemed familiar, yet kind of scary. I remember having a lot of dreams dealing with Extraterrestrials when I was younger.. I also believe I remember having random out of body experiences around this time.. Around the ages of 8-11.. Of course, once again, I wasn't 100% sure what was going on.. In fact, I think a part of me thought that having out of body experiences was a normal thing everyone experienced.

Now.. This may seem kind of irrelevant to the dream, considering how THIS dream played out.. But, I feel it may all tie together (I will probably be going even further in depth in the Discussion "Asteroid Ophelia, representing female despair driving one to madness.")

So.. I remember the dream very clearly.. I always considered it to be THE MOST vivid, most intense, most real feeling dream I have ever had. I also considered it the worst nightmare I've had, up until just recently.. As I no longer see the dream in the same light.

I must also say, this was WAY before I'd ever read anything about any type of "Planet X" or Niburu type theories.. Like I said.. I was quite young when I had the dream..

(sorry.. Don't mean to drag things out lol..)

So..


I remember being in my house. It was night. It was very obvious something was very amiss.. There was this tense, very electric energy in the air. But yet, it also seemed as if everything just went completely still. I was standing at the front door of my house. I knew that the moment I pulled back the curtain to the side window on the door, I would see something that would devastate me. It was almost as if I could feel all my hairs standing on end.

So.. I look out the window. The sky was muddled. It was clearly night.. But, there was an odd hue of orange in the sky, mixed in with areas of black. (Looking back at it now, I'm guessing the orangish areas were probably just some type of clouds.. But, it didn't seem quite that simple..) First, I think I looked to the right.. I saw our Moon.. But, then I looked to the left. I saw another planet in the sky. The despair I felt when I saw it was unbearable. I remember, it was shaped somewhat oddly.. Not quite 100% round.. Almost as if maybe something in it was missing..? I'm not sure. But.. I remember standing there, knowing that the planet (Earth) was about to come to an end.. And, that everyone on the planet was going to die. Such a strong feeling of despair.. Like.. Just standing there, knowing that everything was going to end, and that I could do nothing about it. It was terrible.. No where to run to.. No one to turn to for help. We were all in the same position.

Then, suddenly everything went black.

The odd thing is, a little while afterwords, there was a different part of the dream.. I remember seeing the word Zealous..

The dream may seem simple.. And, it was for the most part.. But, there is a lot of it I can't really even put into words. I don't think I've ever been as present in a dream as I was in that one.


After that, I had a few different dreams with that reoccurring theme.. Rather, things would happen a bit differently.. I remember in one of them, I was saying.. "This is what I saw in my prophecy.."

I have no idea what the original dream could mean.. I really don't. But.. It was very powerful, to me...

I remember going to school the day after I had that original dream.. Those emotions stayed with me for days after I had it.. It made things really hard to do lol..

EDIT: Now, I must ask for readers to be as gentle with this subject as possible.. And to approach what I say on this Discussion and "Asteroid Ophelia, representing female despair driving one to madness" with patience.. I'll probably be pulling out a lot of stuff from the deeper, darker parts of my psyche..

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That's awesome, I can't wait to read your continuation!

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niburu(wormwood)brown dwarf star is in aries not taurus

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Another thing I personally believe is a possibility.. Let's say Niburu works in a way that is interwoven between dimensions.. To me, it isn't that hard to believe that there is a very slight possibility that a certain amount of people won't be able to see it, when and if it approaches earth again.. (That saying, if it happens within the next 10 years..)

Just kind of a random thought that came to mind..

Of course, it that was the case, it could make things even uglier. You would have a few select groups of people who are trying to bring attention to it, and another set group of people who wouldn't be able to see it/comprehend it. This could easily make those people who see it, seem crazy to everyone else.. Therefore, giving them very little support. Of course, that would also add a certain amount of frustration to both sides.. Frustration for those who can see it, because no one else is trying to raise awareness or do anything about it.. And, the other people feeling that they have to drive off a bunch of 'loons' lol..

It's definitely doubtful that this would be the case.. But.. It is kind of something to ponder.

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Originally posted by bjorkstrand:
niburu(wormwood)brown dwarf star is in aries not taurus

Jim



We are talking about my chart, not current placement

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Another thing I personally believe is a possibility.. Let's say Niburu works in a way that is interwoven between dimensions.. To me, it isn't that hard to believe that there is a very slight possibility that a certain amount of people won't be able to see it, when and if it approaches earth again.. (That saying, if it happens within the next 10 years..)

Just kind of a random thought that came to mind..

Of course, it that was the case, it could make things even uglier. You would have a few select groups of people who are trying to bring attention to it, and another set group of people who wouldn't be able to see it/comprehend it. This could easily make those people who see it, seem crazy to everyone else.. Therefore, giving them very little support. Of course, that would also add a certain amount of frustration to both sides.. Frustration for those who can see it, because no one else is trying to raise awareness or do anything about it.. And, the other people feeling that they have to drive off a bunch of 'loons' lol..

It's definitely doubtful that this would be the case.. But.. It is kind of something to ponder.


I could see how that could happen and be very frustrating for all involved!

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Obviously you studied much about wormwood(niburu)

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Originally posted by bjorkstrand:
Obviously you studied much about wormwood(niburu)

Jim


If your not going to explain your remarks, please don't remark, you don't make sense.

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