posted August 05, 2009 02:45 PM              

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i'm interested in any opinions you might have about this one. especially in conjunction with juno and/or sun? venus?

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posted August 07, 2009 04:27 AM            

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<< i'm interested in any opinions you might have about this one. especially in conjunction with juno and/or sun? venus? >>

Asteroid ACHILLES is crucial to athletes, celebrities, political/military leaders and big businessmen.

This is where they can be beaten even though they can develop great success using the placement. All that is needed is to avoid overconfidence.

Achilles conj Juno means the man will attract heroic success after marriage or a relationship with his ideal girl.
Uxoriousness or infidelity will be the undoing of the gains.

Achilles conj Venus is similar except that even a relationship with his inner tastes or a quest for material comfort can give him victories. Greed will destroy him.

Achilles conj Sun is very fortunate, the man will have inbuilt heroism and valour, as part of his ego and ambition. The born success warrior. Ego based arrogance will destroy him.

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posted August 07, 2009 05:04 PM            

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Thanks for posting new asteroids, it is fun to see where they end up! I was interested in this so I posted questions on IQ's thread. I did find a site that tells a little about Achilles and lots of other asteroids as well:

http://www.markandrewholmes.com/achilles.html

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posted August 07, 2009 05:25 PM              

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well i have it opp venus, the sun and juno fit someone i know very well...

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posted August 08, 2009 05:53 AM            

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That site inspires me to this day, though I dont agree with all the keywords given by the author.

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posted August 08, 2009 07:45 AM            

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That's really interesting.. his keywords did seem a bit harsh tho !

I know someone with Achilles conj. Saturn (Leo) but not sure how to interpret it

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posted August 08, 2009 08:05 AM            

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i have Achilles conjunct my MC! why am i not successful? i think it's laziness... hey but it conjuncts my project partner's Sun too, i think that means with our teamwork we can succeed?

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posted August 08, 2009 08:16 AM              

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what about exact conjunct moon in 4th house leo?

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posted August 08, 2009 12:52 PM              

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http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/03/31/achilles-issues-of-false-confidence/

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posted August 08, 2009 01:33 PM            

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I am convinced that the phrase "false confidence" fits best to describe the Achilles-myth AND it's astrological meaning. 3 (random) examples from real life:

- A young woman (aged 23) who's quite attractive and can "charm the birds out of the trees" if she puts on her "naive, innocent" face ... BUT: She is relying on that "youthful factor" too much, and very often, after a while, she comes up as shallow, overly sensitive, selfish, cranky, and people are disturbed, disappointed, sometimes even disgusted or bored by her. (Actually, I don't like her very much myself ...hm.) Her ACHILLES is in Aries exactly cj. her VENUS/NODE-Midpoint (in her 12th) - exactly opposite her LEVIATHAN ("inner beast") in her 6th.

- A man, whose ACHILLES is exactly cj. his MERCURY, CASANOVA, SISYPHUS, SPHINX (in his 11th in Leo) - He is a very(!) smart talker, able to spot other people's weak points, without telling too much about himself, a master in "mental games", manipulation, winning your heart by charming words, seducing you with mind games ... he must ALWAYS win, in a way, everything seems to be a (mental) competition for him, and he can speak quite arrogantly about other people - well, sooner or later, some people (me included) can feel repelled by this, when he's overdoing these "witty ways", Mr. know-it-all, etc.

- My own ACHILLES is in Capricorn (2nd house) - exactly cj, my Part of PLAYS - which, unfortunately, has shown several times in my life already. At heart, I am an adventurer, very playful, extremely optimistic (haha - all this shows in several other astrological traits I have), even in the darkest hours, also quite competitive, but really: in a sporty, playful way ... BUT: I am not "strategic" enough, so I "lose" a game, now and then ... or I invest into the wrong matters, financially or emotionally, by overrating them at first sight. I really must be more cautious in these regards ... especially since my ACHILLES is also exatcly opposite my ICARUS in my 8th ("flying too high too quickly") So, for me: My "Achilles heel" would be overoptimism as far as my "emotional/financial) investements go...

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posted August 08, 2009 03:09 PM              

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wow, thanks alvarella! and hi, long time...you have obviously spent some time with this one! good observations!

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posted August 08, 2009 05:38 PM            

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Katatonic, thanks for the article!

"false lack of confidence in women" - I think it is more "false modesty" in my case.

Oh man. I do this a whole lot - this is especially true in the 9th house areas.

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posted August 09, 2009 02:29 PM            

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I have Achilles almost exactly conjunct my sun 0 degrees. its interesting what you said IQ. I think throughout my life I have already noticed the effects of this placement. Im usually very competitive and whenever Im winning I would start a display of excessive pride and confidence and it would be almost as if the tides would turn and I would be loosing in whatever it was. as well as picking up negative reactions from others. but I have learned to be more humble and calm. I think this might be the key. although the ego is always yearning for more.. I wonder if this is how the aspect manifested itself.. idk i could be wrong.

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posted August 09, 2009 02:42 PM            

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Hi bro,
It is part due to the Achilles conj Sun but the effect of suddenly losing the gains can also be enhanced by a Mars affliction thru Saturn or even a 5th House affliction. Do check that as well in your chart. When you have a reason to celebrate and brag, and you choose not to [not even mentally] but keep the focus on the act of winning as if it were duty, you set up a positive feedback loop where the Universe has to send you more and more positive events/results till you just have to celebrate. This is called Polarizing yourself in a way to negate the Hermetic Law of the Pendulum. This technique will help you a lot now as you have learnt to keep the Ego in its place.

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posted August 10, 2009 12:56 AM            

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IQ.

thats an interesting theory. I do have saturn affliction. that Sun Achilles conjunction is quincunx saturn but also trine Mars. leaving Mars and saturn to be square. so they are all connected.. and coincidentally my 5th house is ruled by Saturn. but training your mind to not feel good about something is a little challenging. but thats an interesting thing you mentioned Ive never heard of it. Thank you for the info!

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posted August 10, 2009 06:13 AM            

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IQ,

I was actually wondering about trines to Achilles. I seem to have a few trines, sextiles and quintiles to Achilles and I was wondering what that meant...

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posted June 14, 2013 07:50 PM            

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It conjuncts my moon closely. I don't like it :/

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posted June 17, 2013 02:24 AM            

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I have Achilles conjuncting my MC exactly as well as my Neptune and Uranus.

I also have Icarus and the asteroid of my first name on my MC as well.

Unfortunately, for all this talk of "success is you're not overconfident" both Achilles and Icarus on the MC does not inspire too much confidence!

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