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black_rose
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posted July 12, 2013 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for black_rose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed a pattern in the charts of those with debilitated Mars.. including my own (oh hey, what's up 12 house mars? nothing, absolutely nothing) and the asteroid Tyr 4092.

It's placement seems to be the key to unlock a more positive expression of Mars in each individual's life.

I've been working lately on tapping into my Mars energy as much of my young life was spent bottling up that energy, afraid of its power.


In my own chart:
12th house Mars in Virgo conjunct Sun

1st house Tyr in Libra Conjunct Pluto


" The god Tyr may be a very powerful, albeit hidden, force in the Western psyche especially, perhaps, that of many Western women, who seem to have more than their share of trouble accessing the healthy functioning of the red planet. Have women sacrificed to uphold the social order in the face of real or perceived threats? Have women "unarmed" themselves, "given up their sword hand" and its ability both to defend themselves and to grasp what they want in the world? How many women suffer through a relationship with a tyrannical mate "for the sake of the kids", or spend too much time rescuing others at great cost to themselves? (Certainly these things are true of many men, too!) Consider how many women put their careers on hold or relinquish them entirely in order to bear and rear children. Consider, too, what would happen to society and the human future if all women refused to do so...

Part of women's—and men's—reclaiming the full use of their Mars/Tyr function may involve waking up to how they may have allowed their hands to be cut off, so to speak, and for what reasons. Some of these reasons may have been good and preserving of human society as a whole, yet the archetypal Tyr pattern of personal sacrifice and containment of the instincts in order to uphold the greater good can interact with both individual fears and social conditioning, with tragic results for both genders. Suppressing this Mars/Tyr archetype—beyond the degree necessary for us to live at peace with one another—will both cripple and depress the suppressor, and rob her or him of the ability to use this archetype constructively, either for one's own good or for that of society. Whether you're male or female, if you're depressed, overworked, underpaid, browbeaten by your mate and have made a conscious or unconscious decision to suffer in silence, how much energy will you have left at the end of the day to protest your local nuclear plant's faulty safety precautions, or to write your Senator about clean air legislation?

Resolving to do something about nuclear safety or clean air may seem more Uranian or Plutonian than Martial. Yet Mars is the energy we need to act upon and follow through with our resolutions. We can see an injustice or a danger and complain about it all day, but without a healthy Mars, we're highly unlikely to do anything about the situation. We can suffer in an abusive marriage and have total Plutonian insight about how we wound up there, full lunar awareness of how awful we feel, and total Solar conviction that we deserve better—but without a healthy Mars, we never walk out that door and slam it behind us.

A reawakening archetype can sometimes grab the steering wheel of the psyche just as fiercely as the archetype was previously suppressed. A re-emerging Mars can be both very angry, and unbelievably awkward about how to use all that adrenalin. Imagine a right-handed and suddenly enraged fencer trying to thrust and parry with her clumsy left hand... Women and men would be wise—and Tyr was said to be very wise—to reclaim their Mars without falling into the less than healthy manifestations of that planet."

Where is your Tyr?

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black_rose
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posted July 12, 2013 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for black_rose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also interesting in SYNASTRY !


With me and a boy who also has 12 house Mars and whose Mars is square my Mars:

My Tyre conjunct his Venus in Libra
His Tyre conjunct my Moon in Pisces


This is definitely how we express ourselves when our Mars energy is in healthier form. Otherwise, we're both more passive/frustrated.


Natally his placements are interesting as well:
12th house Mars in Sag
2nd house Tyr in Pisces conjunct Vesta/Amor

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iQ
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posted July 15, 2013 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Abuse is a common pattern in men with 12th House Mars. Tyr is strength without the ability to defend. Thus, a strong Tyr can help men with 12th House Mars use aggression or courage to overcome abuse.
Being a Viking Asteroid, it will be more valid in those people with Scandinavian Roots or who have an affinity to Viking Myth.

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posted July 15, 2013 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

I have Mars in 12th, too (though conjunct ASC by 2 degrees).
TYR is on 13 Leo in 8th house, but doesn´t do anything really. (well opposing Moon and trine NN, but 4 and 3 degrees is pretty wide; it exactly trines ERIS in Aries)


someone else with Mars in 12th house - his TYR is on 21 Sagittarius in his 1st house, conjunct Mercury and KARMA. Definitely interesting.

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Keela
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posted July 15, 2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I recall I had Tyr as one of the lot at 7 Virgo. Goto-Tyr-Ask-Laotse something. My Venus is 6 Vir 57' R so all conjunct it.

Ask was the first man in some Norse creation myth type thing, Embla the first woman. Ask is also listed as the word for love or something like that in Turkish, so it'd be interesting to look at it from all such angles as well instead of just being about asking for or about something. The question, first man or something related to love.

I'm more or less Scandinavian, depending on which countries you count into the lot. Idunn of the golden apples is conjunct Sun and other Norse gods strongly featured in the chart.

Mars in 11th, 4 Gemini.

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ail221
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posted July 15, 2013 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in 12th here

Tyr in Aquarius conjunct MC(10th)/NN
Opposite Mercury and Square Mars

conjunct Erda one of the norse fates, lilith the asteroid, and Destinn.

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posted July 17, 2013 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in 10th house, but in stellium with Pluto and Venus, and straddles fixed star Algorab in Libra with Pluto. Also opposite Eris (though that's more exact with Pluto). Currently being activated by opposite transit Uranus square transit Pluto.

Tyr (27 Gem 51'4") in 7th house. Interestingly enough, it conjuncts 4862 Loke (28 Gem 54'48"), 584 Semiramis (26 Gem 16'11") and 2516 Roman (27 Gem 16'50").

Though out of orb, it also is somewhat close to 85585 Mjolnir (1 Can 3'27") which conjuncts 4386 Lust (1 Can 18'56") and 279 Thule (1 Can 44'34"), these three are about 4 degrees or so from 8th house cusp.

Also is worth noting Tyr/Semiramis/Roman/Loke are square my North/South nodes in Virgo/Pisces (respectively), and i usually don't count oppositions to fixed stars but this seems pretty close to Opposition Galactic Center in Sagittarius if I'm not mistaken.

I'm really not sure Tyr is helping my Mars in this case.

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