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Topic: The latest Royal: Asteroid Themes
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iQ Moderator Posts: 5772 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2013 06:01 AM
My friend Lara Compton and I were having a chuckle about how the Royal Baby "Coincidentally" has the Ascendant conjunct KAALI aspect. For many years we have showed how Kaali practically rules the current Saxo Coburg Gotha (Windsor) Bloodline of the British Throne since 1700 AD. [LindaLand was the first forum to find Kate Middleton's Aries Rising conjunct Asteroid Kaali. ]Let us see further. His Sun is in 29.59 Cancer, ultimate cusp of Cancer and Leo. This can cause a personality conflict but ultimately he will be more like his Cancerian Father [who has 0.00 Cancer as the Sun. Alpha and Omega of the Sign of Cancer chosen for this Bloodline]. The 9th House Sun shows he has the blessings of his Ancestors, very auspicious location for a Global level leader who has Scorpio Rising. There was a near Full Moon [Moon at 28 Capricorn, 1 degree shy of the Illuminati Degree]. This shows that a very powerful Entity has taken birth. Nobody can argue against the strong signs before his birth: Starting with the suicide of the nurse to Excessive Floods, Many Tornadoes, Unusually hot weather and thunderstorms in London after his birth. Saturn is in 12th. Heavy and Serious Unfinished karmic business as North Node is also in 12th Scorpio. Asteroid Themes: ---------------- The biggest red flag: Venus square Kaali EXACT. We all know here that I did a controversial research on certain alleged ET/Royal Reptilian Bloodlines having strong Venus-Kaali aspects. The odds were in favor that Venus-Kaali aspects do exist in strong British Monarchs [even before this Bloodline] but such a study cannot prove that there really is a Reptilian DNA component manifesting in these "successful" rulers. Something special exists, yes, that is for certain. Maybe it is just extra Kundalini Juice in the cellular structure. And now this baby has exact Venus square Kaali. Hope Kate Middleton is not reading my posts... Next, NESSUS squares Ascendant exact and opposes BABYLON exact. Prince William, keep this baby away from your Grandfather. Better still, hire a Sam and a Dean to guard the nursery. PALLAS sextile Venus exact and RUDRA conjunct Black Moon Lilith: Very strong Occult Powers. He also has CIRCE conjunct ANGEL. This can easily mean ability to create an impression of being Angelic. LUCIFER squares Mars: Can manifest as very strong rebellious attitude. ANUBIS conjunct North Node, ANUBIS trine Mercury in 8th: His Mercury just stopped the Rx motion and stationed itself on Sirius. This 8th to 12th House trine is extremely powerful and even creepy, as if he can easily communicate with the Dead. Pluto square SEKHMET: A destructive aspect. He can misuse his Occult Energy when he is obsessed over a goal. But Pluto trines KING exact, perhaps his Royal DNA will ensure wisdom stays strong over emotions. GILGAMESH and TUTANCHAMUN conjunct, proving he has strong Royal qualities. LOGOS sextile Ascendant: A very positive aspect, something that can make the Annakin shine from Darth Vader's body. ISHTAR conjuncts Neptune and trines Saturn: This could mean he is fated to master all Babylonian Magickal rites. BAL and BAALKE are conjunct, he may connect to Baal/Bali [King of the Inner Earth as per Vedic Legend]. Interesting that his Ascendant Sabian is "King of Fairies". King of the "Flying Ones"? ASMODEUS conjuncts Venus and Regulus and opposes Kaali too. This is the strongest clue that he can become a "Prince of Darkness". Asmodeus squares YESHUHUA. Stress/Tension with Christ/Christ-Consciousness. CAMELOT is in 12th Cusp, guaranteed past life existence here or in a similar realm. GIZA and OSIRIS are conjunct. Sabian of OSIRIS is "A Prophet Carrying Tablets Of The New Law Is Walking Down The Slopes Of Mount Sinai". Is he bringing to Earth a new doctrine from the Underworld/Hades? Kaali opposes his MESSENGER as well. ------------------ Astrology Articles New Services and short readings IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 829 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 24, 2013 08:34 AM
I was looking forward to hearing what you'd say about this, since even at a glance I figured the Mercury-NN-Chiron Grand Trine at 13 degrees in Water signs might get some mention from you. Mercury around Sirius, Venus conjunct Regulus. Suicide of the nurse though? Was this in the UK or something else I missed? Astrodienst tells me the ASC is 27 Scorpio, so anything to say about Algol in relation to the DC and that? I'm doubly interested since as said in some family heritage thread sometime back, my grandfather had Kaali-Osiris/Hekate with Algol conjunct his likely ASC, even if his chart also had Angel two degrees before that. With that it also had a Neptune conjunct IC conjunct Horus at 12-14 Cancer and from what I recall the 19 Sco Moon opposite Mars and square Anubis and Chiron opposite each other, so I'm always interested in other people's charts giving echoing positions. Thank you for the write-up, I'll take another look with more time later I expect. (Unrelatedly, since we haven't bumped into each other here since then nor I received any comment otherwise, I take it my email with the space and Egypt related dream stuff came through okay whatever weeks ago?)
Edit: Anything with 666 Desdemona style things in the chart? I'll have to check 5001 EMP and other random things out of my own curiosity sometime when make the room for more charts to my files. Transits looked to be around 29 Pisces and 666 Desdemona around 29 Taurus so that's likely opposite Kaali, 1924 Horus transit hitting around the 28-29 degrees Capricorn you brought up already, too, so retrograde Horus conjunct Moon? Desdemona seemed interesting also for Valentine seeming to be conjunct it near the DC. Is that Karma opposite Aries Point or near the SGC, too? IP: Logged |
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posted July 24, 2013 09:07 AM
I was curious what you would find (even though I myself refrain from analyzing the astrology of New Born children, I am of course still curious). And yes, it definitely made me chuckle, when someone mentioned KAALI being conjunct ASC.Which then in turn made me notice that TR KAALI must be conjunct my Valentine (and Mesopotamia) right now, as my Valentine is on the Fairy-king-Sabian as well. I found it interesting though that his Moon ended up on 28 Capricorn instead of 29 Capricorn.
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ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted July 24, 2013 01:41 PM
Leviathan at 29 degrees Leo conjunct Venus exact and square Kaali that's pretty interesting.IP: Logged |
BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 504 From: WA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 24, 2013 08:51 PM
Have you checked the Draconics yet, IQ?I did a brief glimpse out of curiosity. Draconic Uranus (28° Leo 51'5" SRx) is conjunct Regulus and natal Venus as well. Also it is Station Retrograde. This is highly significant, especially considering the square to Kaali that Venus has. Unless the rules for draconic objects to fixed stars is different... ? IP: Logged |
BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 504 From: WA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 24, 2013 09:28 PM
Palace: Royal baby named George Alexander LouisThe name is in! Looks to be an interesting one too. Not sure how the numerology for this would work... would we just go by that given name? Would we add Cambridge to it? (He is the Prince of Cambridge)... would we go by "Prince George Alexander Louis of Cambridge?" IP: Logged |
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posted July 24, 2013 10:06 PM
Wait.. does anyone with a venus/kaali aspect have a reptilian DNA? I'm not taking about royal blue blood, but reptilian blood.... o_oI have venus sextile kali exact and my dad has venus conjunct Kali exact. My eldest sister has Venus opp Kali 2 degrees My other sister also has Venus sextile Kali 4 degrees or so. which is probably too wide but it's still there... LOL... I actually don't mind the idea of being a reptile or reptilian, I love them! I have a gorgeous rainbow boa I keep as a pet!! I had more as a kid but I had to give them away after I moved out... I actually have really cold skin due to bad blood circulation but still... IP: Logged |
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posted July 25, 2013 02:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by BlackSeraph: Palace: Royal baby named George Alexander LouisThe name is in! Looks to be an interesting one too. Not sure how the numerology for this would work... would we just go by that given name? Would we add Cambridge to it? (He is the Prince of Cambridge)... would we go by "Prince George Alexander Louis of Cambridge?"
checked the numerology when i heard and interestingly the name is 13/4 and his birth day is 22/4...the day itself gives him a lifepath 8. This new soul is definitely here to bring some other kind of change when he grows up...but that's a lot of karmic numbers, and after reading about his asteroids, won't be surprised at all if they give him nickname that is a '15'. They don't use a family name, otherwise it's Mountbatten-Windsor...but you are right, he'd just put 'Cambridge' as family name when needed, until his father becomes the Prince of Wales.....if he ever does.....
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ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted July 25, 2013 02:11 PM
I suspect 7464 vipera, 620 drakonia, or 25115 Drago might indicate reptilian tendencies. Vipera is a genus of venomous vipers. Drakonia for shorted = Drake as a given name and its Origin meaning: "Dragon" or "Snake" Drago is dragon in italian.IP: Logged |
BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 504 From: WA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 25, 2013 09:59 PM
Uh oh... Hmm...25115 Drago (29° Sco 38'48") - Conjunct -- 97 Klotho (28° Sco 14'23") -- 295565 Hannover (28° Sco 20'34") - Opposite -- 2629 Rudra (29° Tau 32'36") -- 149 Medusa (29° Tau 43'34") -- 6583 Destinn (0° Gem 10'8") -- 545 Messalina (0° Gem 21'4") - Square -- Sun (0° Vir 15'31") -- 55555 DNA (0° Vir 28'7") -- 9305 Hazard (0° Vir 35'24") 7464 Vipera (23° Sag 34'22") - Conjunct -- 4257 Ubasti (22° Sag 22'43") -- 1970 Sumeria (22° Sag 30'31") -- fixed star Lesath (23° Sag 43'0") -- 25290 Vibhuti (24° Sag 20'46") -- 5249 Giza (24° Sag 47'13") - Opposite -- 2926 Caldeira (22° Gem 17'56") -- 85 Io (22° Gem 50'4") -- 2094 Magnitka (23° Gem 6'47") -- 4636 Chile (24° Gem 5'46") - Square -- 8589 Stellaris (22° Vir 33'58") -- 2848 ASP (22° Vir 51'9") -- 355 Gabriella (24° Vir 10'26") -- 35352 Texas (24° Vir 35'37") -- 1485 Isa (24° Vir 40'36") -- Pholus (22° Pis 19'51" Rx) -- 1045 Michela (23° Pis 33'50" Rx) -- 10806 Mexico (23° Pis 51'5" Rx) -- 157 Dejanira (24° Pis 37'42" Rx) - Trine -- 12927 Pinocchio (24° Ari 16'37") -- 11911 Angel (23° Leo 48'30") 620 Drakonia (18° Ari 43'39" SRx) - Conjunct -- fixed star Abyssus Aqueus (19° Ari 7'54") (no entry on Constellation of Words it seems...) - Opposite -- 3989 Odin (19° Lib 1'28") - Trine -- 22533 Krishnan (18° Leo 34'13") -- 128 Nemesis (18° Leo 58'6") -- 17493 Wildcat (19° Leo 22'28") -- 12472 Samadhi (19° Leo 24'13") -- 37452 Spirit (19° Leo 28'42") -- 313 Chaldaea (17° Sag 39'14") For good measure, and in the spirit of the subject/theories: 5457 Queen's (29° Lib 23'33") - Conjunct -- 628 Christine (28° Lib 8'50") -- 26922 Samara (28° Lib 16'56") -- 2101 Adonis (28° Lib 43'33") -- 1912 Anubis (29° Lib 22'12") -- 3325 TARDIS (29° Lib 35'36") -- 3610 Decampos (0° Sco 34'28") - Opposite -- 228029 MANIAC (0° Tau 20'31") - Square -- 774 Armor (27° Can 58'43") -- 27719 Fast (29° Can 12'31") -- 90482 Orcus (29° Can 17'38") -- 3915 Fukushima (0° Leo 31'25") -- 4362 Carlisle (29° Cap 28'15" Rx) -- 203 Pompeja (29° Cap 37'33" Rx) - Semisquare -- 2001 Einstein (14° Vir 4'42") -- 7207 Hammurabi (14° Vir 13'47") -- 100000 Astronautica (15° Vir 10'35") -- 8558 Hack (14° Sag 13'11") -- Neptune (15° Sag 33'3" SD) - Sesquiquadrate -- 16110 Paganetti (14° Gem 4'1") -- 14959 TRIUMF (14° Gem 5'2") -- 1981 Midas (14° Gem 40'6") -- 129 Antigone (14° Gem 54'11") -- 1348 Michel (15° Gem 6'15") -- 2818 Juvenalis (14° Pis 2'35" Rx) - Trine -- 4862 Loke (28° Gem 54'48") - Sextile -- Sun (0° Vir 15'31") -- 55555 DNA (0° Vir 28'7") -- 9305 Hazard (0° Vir 35'24") -- 2601 Bologna (28° Sag 9'37") -- 2046 Leningrad (28° Sag 15'55") Not sure what to make of all these... ...man these are some strong draco aspects on my end... Yeah I'm done playing with this for now. IP: Logged |
BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 504 From: WA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 25, 2013 10:09 PM
Check that...This grabbed my attention: 1785 Wurm (2° Sco 33'29") - Conjunct -- 875 Nymphe (1° Sco 25'18") -- 5381 Sekhmet (1° Sco 31'57") -- 10343 Church (3° Sco 25'31") -- 15129 Sparks (3° Sco 27'25") -- 8543 Tsunemi (3° Sco 37'38") - Opposite -- 19521 Chaos (1° Tau 50'0" Rx) - Square -- 2254 Requiem (1° Leo 57'28") -- 37530 Dancingangel (2° Leo 18'52") -- 5 Astraea (3° Leo 8'16") -- 96205 Ararat (3° Leo 21'39") -- 5102 Benfranklin (3° Leo 33'33") - Semisquare -- 389 Industria (16° Vir 17'55") -- 12238 Actor (18° Vir 5'13") -- 3063 Makhaon (18° Vir 30'5") -- 1021 Flammario (18° Vir 45'10") -- 2365 Interkosmos (17° Sag 4'4") -- 313 Chaldaea (17° Sag 39'14") - Sesquiquadrate -- 1260 Walhalla (16° Gem 3'50") -- 25478 Shrock (18° Gem 59'52") -- 273 Atropos (16° Pis 13'9" Rx) -- 19 Fortuna (18° Pis 23'21" Rx) - Trine -- 279 Thule (1° Can 44'34") -- 1120 Cannonia (2° Can 9'9") -- 12519 Pullen (2° Can 33'56") -- 78577 JPL (3° Can 3'52") -- 896 Sphinx (3° Can 49'18") -- 1027 Aesculapia (2° Pis 20'16" Rx) -- 1278 Kenya (3° Pis 57'43" Rx) - Sextile -- 3908 Nyx (1° Vir 24'58") -- 8000 Isaac Newton (2° Vir 7'5") -- 2442 Corbett (2° Vir 27'57") -- Saturn (3° Vir 29'18") -- 192158 Christian (3° Vir 31'51") -- 1488 Aura (3° Cap 20'22" Rx) Ok NOW I'm done for now. IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted July 25, 2013 10:42 PM
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SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2438 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 25, 2013 11:28 PM
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BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 504 From: WA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 26, 2013 12:32 AM
D'oh! Hang on, those snake ones I listed weren't his... I messed up. Those are mine!I'll check his tomorrow... oi. Remind me not to check charts when I'm running low on sleep and heavy stress. IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2438 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 26, 2013 01:38 AM
lol !!! ^ take it easy ~Seraph!!! ^^ rest up! we all do it some time or other!!!I filled in half a chart before without realizing I hadn't set the actual profile for the other individual, and I was only filling in my own placements... here I was thinking - "hey... we have so much in common" - zoink!!! I had to start alllllllll over. rest is vital! lol IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted July 26, 2013 08:03 AM
Rofl we all make late night errors its ok Serpah. @ Saturnine I find occult theories fantasizing so long as no one does anything crazy and try to "eliminate threats". Not snakes "Dragons!" Somehow we always end up astrologically connected  Well the George Alexander Louis has: Vipera at Virgo 0'50 conjunct Regulus and Venus Square Asc, and Kaali exact Sextile Pallas exact and Drakonia opposite Neptune Drakonia in Gemini 27'2 conjunct Pallas and widely Drago Drago in Gemini 18 quintile Asc/venus sq MC 2
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BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 504 From: WA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 26, 2013 08:49 PM
OK, revised check. (Man, still thinking about my own draconic/snake aspects...)First of all, he has Neptune conjunct Fomalhaut. "With Neptune: Sharp, shrewd, self-seeking, analytical, detective ability, many secret enemies, connected with secret affairs or government work, occult interests, somewhat dishonest, influential friends, associated with 9th and 12th house affairs, gain through speculation, death of marriage partner, many narrow escapes, violent death through secret enemies." Denebola is also culminating (at least I assume that's what the Midheaven on a star means). No specific entry so here goes for Denebola in general: "Notes: A blue star in the Lion's tail. From Al Dhanab al Asad, the Tail of the Lion, or, according to Bullinger, the Judge, or Lord who Cometh. [Robson*, p.160.] According to Ptolemy Denebola is of the nature of Saturn and Venus; to Wilson and Pearce, of Saturn, Venus and Mercury; to Simmonite, of Uranus; and, to Alvidas, of Mercury, Uranus and Mars. It gives swift judgment, despair, regrets, public disgrace, misfortune from the elements of nature, and happiness turned to anger, and makes its natives noble, daring, self-controlled, generous and busy with other people's affairs. [Robson*, p.160-161.] The 'Tail of the Lion' has a Uranian nature and it is supposed that, in mundane horoscopes, major catastrophes are triggered off by it. Depending on the position and aspect to other stellar bodies in a personal cosmogram, either preferment or fall are credited to this star. Found on the Ascendant and especially in company with Mercury, a quarrelsome nature, with a liking for legal action is attributed to Denebola. It could also mean that this star is the cause of very exciting events. Badly placed in a map, with Mercury or Uranus, mental diseases - and those mostly incurable ones - are indicated. Fine aspects however, will further work connected with matters of reform and progress" With those and Algol Descending... Right off the bat I'm thinking that he reigns over a Time of Troubles, assuming he rules at all. Asteroids in the next post.
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BlackSeraph Knowflake Posts: 504 From: WA, USA Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 26, 2013 09:13 PM
Ok, these are for the PRINCE, not me! lol...620 Drakonia (27° Gem 2'53") - Conjunct -- Part/Lot of Ancestral Heritage (26° Gem 3'44") -- 241 Germania (26° Gem 58'53") -- 4862 Loke (27° Gem 0'56") -- 1181 Lilith (28° Gem 25'40") - Square -- 58534 Logos (26° Vir 42'3") -- 5325 Silver (27° Vir 23'49") - Sesquiquadrate - Trine -- 7066 Nessus (27° Aqu 55'30" Rx) - Sextile -- 42 Isis (25° Ari 39'17") -- Part/Lot of Astrology (26° Leo 7'15") (that's interesting paired with the next one...) -- 15417 Babylon (27° Leo 22'38") 25115 Drago (18° Gem 0'30") - Conjunct -- 9951 Tyrannosaurus (16° Gem 35'25") -- fixed star Rigel (17° Gem 1'5") -- 19521 Chaos (17° Gem 33'31") -- 3100 Zimmerman (19° Gem 15'32") - Opposite -- 28978 Ixion (18° Sag 59'17" Rx) -- Pholus (19° Sag 1'51" Rx) - Square -- 4543 Phoinix (16° Vir 37'10") -- 1170 Siva (17° Vir 32'20") -- 6434 Jewitt (19° Pis 19'58") - Trine -- 2677 Joan (18° Lib 43'52") -- 584 Semiramis (18° Lib 49'33") -- 1388 Aphrodite (18° Aqu 3'10" Rx) - Sextile -- 1260 Walhalla (16° Leo 59'47") 7464 Vipera (0° Vir 50'13") - Conjunct -- 2174 Asmodeus (29° Leo 20'24") (Umm....) -- fixed star Regulus (0° Vir 1'1") -- Venus (0° Vir 8'10") - Square -- 666 Desdemona (29° Tau 35'22") -- 4955 Gold (1° Gem 27'20") -- 4227 Kaali (0° Sag 3'38") - Semisquare -- 1685 Toro (14° Lib 39'27") - Sesquiquadrate -- 916 America (17° Cap 19'21" Rx) - Trine -- 37117 Narcissus (1° Cap 50'18" Rx) - Sextile -- Pallas (0° Can 38'13") -- 11572 Schindler (0° Can 56'35") -- 2031 BAM (2° Can 1'59") -- 11144 Radiocommunicata (29° Lib 52'58") There you have it. I'll put the other draconic/reptilian asteroids later, going out for a bit. ...That Venus conjunction point is looking crazy. Oh, he also has Gunn conjunct Chiron opposite Dejanira. More exact placements for Gunn or Chiron later. But that's looking a bit ominous. Also noticed Osiris conjunct IC.
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ail221 Moderator Posts: 7119 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted July 26, 2013 11:49 PM
The number of asteroids on his Venus & Regulus and Reptilian asteroid in combination is pretty interesting. I am surprised there weren't many geocentric tropical placements that are conjunct Heliocentric planetary node aspects. Except for Heliocentric Jupiter North node conjunct natal His vertex exact. But perhaps this aspect is influential enough.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 73220 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 27, 2013 02:13 PM
WOW He has Kaali conj the ASCSo, you think Kate has this, too, IQ?So, what do you think Kate's ASC is. Why keep the baby away from the grandfather? Thank you! ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2438 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 27, 2013 09:14 PM
Waw! Seraph, you're awesome!And, I can't tell you how much I love that you've even included Arabic Lots! And, you always seem to find bodies that I have either entirely missed or have yet to stumble upon. Kudos!!!! :fireworks: While I'm not so secure in looking at the child as being under the thumb of negative forces or kin to them or a herald for those negative influences in the future, as IQ's always mesmerizing and enlightening interpretations seem to portend. I am still mystified, and completely amused by the weePrince's serpent-warden and royal star connections. I've only glimpsed at the chart of George VI, but I feel this child will be a lot like his great-grandfather, perhaps it is the Jupiter-Saturn and Jupiter-Mars that they have in common, or because they both have Asc's in the 27th degree in positive/major aspect with Kaali - I don't know really... I'm not sure. But, since fate and family have chosen for him to bear the name of his great-great-grandfather, I do hope he will come to represent the surviving monarchy with the same dignity and valour that was found in the reign of King George VI. So instead of looking at his future as being one of upheavals and turmoil, I see it as potentially a time for restoration and solidarity. (He'll be well protected with his Cardinal parents guarding him, at the very least.) 
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posted July 27, 2013 10:37 PM
Ami - quote: Originally posted by iQ: LindaLand was the first forum to find Kate Middleton's Aries Rising conjunct Asteroid Kaali.
Kaali connections, among other evidence. --- A lengthy but hopefully comprehensible and detailed look at HRH Catherine Duchess of Cambridge's potential Ascendant ---  The source for the quoted approximate time in the often mentioned Andersen chronicle on Will & Kate's love story, can only be held as valid to a point, sure... are some of his previous writings salacious, absolutely; has he taken liberties, who doesn't... even if it was sourced to her mother or obstetrician him/herself, it is unlikely everyone would accept it anyway, so no point in actually disputing validity... it's all the same here. (someone will always say "poo-poo") - However, without getting blinded by paranoia and stereotyping writers/researchers/biographers like Anderson as all charlatans out for an easy pound and penny... (Andersen having drawn from probably the nearest and most reliable sources available of anyone out there given that he does have a rather highly esteemed if somewhat infamous name and oeuvre), we can easily determine the source was likely not present at the actual birth (as who in their right mind invites anyone but the nearest and dearest to a delivery, and the immediate family is not sourced), and would therefore, have likely been informed indirectly/after the actual birth; so "that afternoon" is a vague approximation that can easily mean the child-Duchess was actually born between the late morning hours and afternoon. No earlier than 11 (Asc in Aries) and no later than 5 (Asc in Leo). Keep in mind... Previous and even less verifiable accounts regarding her possible birth time in the astrology community have cited her birth as being around 8AM (in one instance) and 11AM (in another instance). - (just for comparison.) That's three unrelated, and sadly unverifiable possibilities that each suggest a birthtime between late morning and noon hours. unverifiable - but still worth noting, since any remotely knowledgeable source(s) (of her actual time of birth) could have given each of these estimates, and no source substantial or otherwise has come forward to present any later (PM) possibilities. (just taking note~ as this helps one all but rule out a late evening birth time) In order to be an Aries Ascendant with a cnj of node to Kaali, she has to have been born between appx 11:15 and 11:20 that "morning-afternoon". - As IQ is definitely looking at more than this one reason for seeing her fitting an Aries Ascendant, and I too can see for myself, several other prominent aspects that would make Aries a prime candidate for her Ascendant; and while I cannot say for certain what IQ used to reach that assessment, what his prerequisites might be (hopefully he will share those), I can say I used a threefold technique that I've been experimenting with that has yielded a rather high degree of accuracy so far. First is physical observation (her manner, her physique, her eloquence, intelligence, and attitude in both candid and social interactions) and crossed that with what is found in traditional Western and the Vedic astrological descriptions for each possibility - even in each system West/Vedic). I would then look at her life/experiences/education (other), in relation to the different possibilities and what they did for the aspects in the chart with each possible rising in mind, looking at transits at key points over her increasingly public relationship/presence especially for clues toward what stands out most, over the others). Finally it was a matter of deduction/elimination and pros and cons in the actual relationship to the Prince, (her parents and siblings) and seeing how the remaining possibilities stood against one another. In a very basic formula - I would rule out anything beyond Noon and 4:15, and go from there looking at what other aspects "match" either the continuity present in other "royal" charts as well as looking for visible expressions of what the other possible aspects would/could create. Basically, the most probable rising comes down to Aries (due to each consideration highlighted above and then some), the second most probable rising imho would be Cancer (4:50 birthtime - Kaali sq node), and the third, but least favoured by aspect possible Ascendant could be Gemini (1:59, for the sextile - not optimal, as it creates only a sxt)~ This rules out Taurus and Leo immediately - based on the supposed time and chart dynamics, entirely. I don't know - how anyone else reaches their conclusions, but I would hope that by taking the time to compare each of these intrinsically important matters and details and looking at things both separately and in their entirety, to overcome the bad habits of immediately assuming one's senses are correct based on phenotype/false gimmicks so rampant in today's astrology files only would and do create for so many astro-dabblers; that I can map out a way to determine with a respectable margin of error, what a person's possible and most likely ascendant can be. Avoid the cliches... stick to the principles that have lasted ages. Don't give into what your eyes and emotions tell you. compartmentalize these things, disassociate from them, deconstruct the chart, reconstruct it over and over again until you find a match that fits. It simply cannot be done by just taking a person at face value... literally, especially. ~__~ It is my greatest wish to treat this art, astrology, with the respect it deserves, and honor the traditions, mechanics and formula, and history which helped to create it. (Astrology survives today, but is increasingly more diluted by mainstream/pop astrologers and the simplicity those outlets so eagerly embrace.) I find it unsettling, the level of complacency and the utter lack of regard, and complete misuse that so many have adopted astrology for, attached it to, promoted it as being.... ~___~; it's disgraceful. So, while I don't have the ability to connect everything to that greater scheme of things or paint that picture for others to see, so very clearly, as dutiful and passionate astrologer's like IQ can... and, I have only been a student for the past 19 years, and lack those credentials and supreme experience with interpretations... humbly, I share what I have learned, and what I am taught, and respectfully take in everything our wisest LL astrology experts have to share, even when our views seem to differ. Especially when they differ! <3 Super Big~ Thank you, IQ, ail, Ceri, Lotis, Mir, Xiiro (and several others!)~ for sharing your wisdom, and inspiring us (ME!) to learn, experience, and grow.  IP: Logged |
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posted June 18, 2014 11:17 PM
Prince harry has his DNA conjunct Kaali and Regulus conjunct Henry asteroid IP: Logged |
anno_lucis Knowflake Posts: 994 From: the atman Registered: Mar 2012
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posted October 01, 2015 10:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Why keep the baby away from the grandfather?
think he's implying the duke of edinborough's a pedo. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 01, 2015 11:09 AM
I was wondering, obviously he is opposing Christ, maybe even being powerful enough to be part of how the illuminati's "one eyed" false God or anti-Christ comes into power on earth. So he most likely could be a major helper in allowing entities trying to cross over into Earth's dimension and try to reinhabit earth like they did before the flood....So how do all the demonic asteroids play in his chart? And the Jesus asteroids? Yeshuhua(3241),Isa(1485), Jessie(10464) Isa-Jesus in Islam https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam Serpent who seduced Eve... ASP(2848) Lucifer(1930) *you mentioned this one* Asmodeus (2174) *you mentioned this one to* He was a demon of Lust and ruled the second circle of Hell. Apophis (99942) Apophis the Greek name for Apep. Apep was a gigantic evil serpent who was the enemy of the Egyptian sun god Ra.The evil serpents mission was to swallow the sun and destroy Ra. Even if Apophis was killed he could return each night. Apophis was said to to live in the undewrorld and be an eater of souls. Apophis is also known as Apophis The Destroyer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apep
Vipera (7464) Vipera is associated with snakes especially vipers.It is also associated with treachery,betrayal and hidden evil. Biblical asteroids(thread)- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002823.html
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