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Liliya
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posted August 05, 2013 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted August 05, 2013 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
retro is when a planet or asteroid makes you really go into an interior part of yourself and really learn about it before you can use it.

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posted August 05, 2013 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My only understanding of pholus is that it intensifies things. From what I heard on this forum anyway. I think of it as similar to Jupiter and Pluto but not necessarily lucky or changing. In retrograde I imagine that you just internalize the intensity, either with 8H meanings or what ever planets you have there. Trine sun in 12...maybe you have a hard time understanding yourself or your personality. Or maybe you simply have a hard time expressing yourself?

This is just one opinion though, you hasn't read much on pholus.

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posted August 09, 2013 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pholus explodes what it touches. If it touches Chiron( as with moi ) you can explode your pain.
If it touches Eris, you can explode with an annoying energy like Steve Urkel.

If it touches Ceres, you can explode with unconditional love.

That is how I view Pholus

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posted August 11, 2013 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pholus explodes what it touches.
If it touches Eris, you can explode with an annoying energy like Steve Urkel.

That is how I view Pholus


don't be hatin'! *dotheurkel*

8th house Aries *Alpheratz* (14° 4'51") "the horse's navel" (Pegasus) - (Alpha Andromedae)
Eris (14°49' 7") & Pholus (14°56'28")
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13 Shuryanka (Surya - 13°51'41")
15 Persephone (15°49'41") Anastasia (15°34'5") Bata (15°25'34") Asher (15°3'41") Bogie (15°38'29")

trine

4th house Sagittarius
14 *Sarin* (14°31'44") Autumn (14°36'28") Caelumnoctu (14°24'35") (Pars)-Infortunium (14°4')
15 *Ras Algethi* (15°55'7") S.Node (15°21'40"D) Venus (15°42'28") Charybdis (15°14'25") Klymene (15°50'15") Foros (15°43'23")
16 Penelope (16°42'26")

12th house Leo
14 *Dubhe* (14°58'37") Nat.Priapus (14°37'53") Prokne (14°25'38"Rx) [Mars+Chi MP 14 46']
15 *AlMinhar* (15°4'26") [Plu+Chi MP 15 01'] (Pars)-ObitumParentis (15°13') (Pars)-Siblings (15°13')
16 *Ketu* (16°2'16") Logos (16°29'51"Rx)

sextile

10th house Gemini
13 M.Node (13°50'11") Lilaea (13°30' 4"Rx)
14 Vesta (14°2'56"Rx) Antigone (14°7'40"Rx) Academia (14° 7'16"Rx) Bede (14° 0' 0"Rx) Soomana (14°1'19"Rx) (Pars)-Possessions (14°13')
15 N.Node (15°21'40"D) *Cursa* (15°3'14") Marmara (15°41'29"Rx)

6th house Aquarius
13 *Dorsum* (13°36'39") Hermes (13°7'13") Agapenor (13°32'3") Discovery (13°22'51") Polyxo (13°6'11") Lycomedes (13°20'45") Meges (13°56'8") Schedios (13°1'28") Ankaios (13°1'28") Iguassu (13°3'41")
14 Achilles (14°4'52") Kalchas (14°17'11") Aescualapia (14°57'52") Agrawain (14°12'12") WhiteKnight (14°43'4") Galante (14°38'33")
15 *AlNair* (15°40'19") Cyllarus (15°57'25") Diana (15°43'13") Eteoneus (15° 7'44") Euryalos (15°54'13") Guinevere (15°28'17") Halitherses (15°46'13") Hebe (15°0'13") Meriones (15°29'35") Telemachus (15°31'13") (Pars)-Felicitatum (15°22')

opposite

2nd house Libra
13 *AlGorab* (13°13'35") *Avis Satyra* (13°35'27") Hertha (13°22'6") Peiroos (13°44'18") Rhesus (13°54'56") Flammeus (13°16'35") Ashkinazi (13°26'1") Bogado (13°20'46")
14 *Aldhibain* (14°15'20") Ascanios (14°21'35") Cava (14°50'3") Dione (14°17'22") Meliboea (14°5'53") Ramesh (14°55'54")
15 *Merga* (15°12'45") Kastalia (15°23'4") Casablanca (15°22'9")

squares (w/i/p ~recovering lost data...)

11th house Cancer
14 *Canopus* *Mekbuda* (Pars)-Fervoris (14°54')
15 Austria
16 Messenger (16°19'57"Rx) Antilochus Tekmessa Ankara (16°21'20"Rx)

5th house Capricorn
13 *Ascella* Qumran Samadhi Amneris Sette (13°34'10") Nautilus Moroso Magnanimity (13°34'46")
14 *Hecatebolus* *Manubrium* Alexandrinus Isolda Blarney Nipponia
15 *Vega* (15°4'34") *Arkab Prior* *Arkab Posterior* Vanadis Credo Marghanna

pretty sure the Q/bQ are somewhere on here already, maybe even the Qd.

I find that at least half the time a mythological figure is attached to some astrological concept newly named or existing for a hundred years - astrology always (always) fails to acknowledge the other side of their story or character, or they just get things completely wrong and go with it... nothing even needs to have a meaning anymore.

rx for example - every non calculated object at x distance, from ~MC until nearly the 2nd house is in Rx motion.

no matter what there will be clusters of hundreds and thousands of bodies moving Rx...

not that it means absolutely nothing, but ---- it comes down to distance at the very least... it's not Mercury after all.

Pholus is NOT one of the "mad" Centauros, he is from a different lineage, either Apollon's or another of Kronos's children. Even his name denotes his brilliance.

The effect of breaking free from tradition, as well as maintaining traditions/customs - are each part of his domain, his duty.

The effects of a transit Pholus and the place he falls in the houses of your chart can show areas where there will be pressure brought on you by others to either hold your ground or cave in, like Pholus you will not have an easy option there, it is the "damned if you do, and damned if you don't" scenario.

Pholus had to uphold the Greek law, Xenia

Herakles was a guest and extending hospitality to everyone was one of the four pillars of ancient Greek cultural custom. To be inhospitable to anyone, let alone a demigod would have meant punishment from the Erinyes, Furies, Damiones, or Zeus himself.

On the other hand, he was in charge of maintaining what symbolically represented the "wisdom and culture" of his tribe of Centaurs. Their legacy was the wine, but just like Pandora's mistake, Herakles couldn't have known what would be released when those potions were opened. It was Pholus's folly, and Herakles's ignorance.

Instead of viewing it solely as an area where some form of explosive force is felt, I suggest viewing Pholus in a similar light as Prometheus + Damocles. The wisdom Pholus in the chart holds, could explode with what it touches, wonderfully so... or erupt into chaos, a hornet's nest... so while, you can continue to see it that way... it's only half the picture. Pholus wants to be prepared, he wants to stand his ground and do what is right for everyone. But, sometimes, that just isn't possible, is it?

My Pholus is triggered very easily, and fairly often, by transit and in the relations of daily life.

Of course, I have Eris there... and Venus-Uranus in trine. I like the chaos.

I'm Steve Urkel-immune to it, I guess. ~shrug~


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Xena
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posted August 11, 2013 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about pholus conjunct sun, mc and amor?

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