posted September 03, 2013 11:34 AM            

You write:

"For reference:
[Generic Love Objects] = AMOR, VALENTINE, EROS, JUNO

[Generic Fate Objects] = N Node, Saturn, Karma, Tyche, Fortuna, Destinn

Ascendant of either person must conjunct a Generic Love Object, a Generic Fate Object or any of these:
Asc, Dsc, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus, Pluto and Asteroids UNION and ANGEL.
Maximum 3 degrees orb.
Ascendant trine/opp Asc, Dsc, Moon, Sun, Saturn or Karma within 2 degrees orb is also valid."

I posted two charts to use as examples in the other thread but just to clarify... Your primary rule up there is doubly fulfilled by having A's ASC conj B's Moon as well as A's (generic fate object) Tyche conjunct B's Ascendant, right? And it's all the way triply filled by B having their Moon conjunct Karma, both conjunct A's Ascendant? The first two aspects are exact, Karma conjunct ASC orb is about 1,5 degrees.

I'd also imagine that although it's not directly your "Fated-SoulMate Pair Linking", that A has their Sun conjunct Karma and B their Moon conjunct Karma might add some mirroring to the two people's charts? Especially as it's a Leo Sun and a Cancer Sun so the Moon matters to the other person.

Also, if the people were born only ~1,5 months apart but have aspects like the above for a starting point, would you consider Valentines being exactly conjunct potentially more valid again despite a closeness in age?

posted September 04, 2013 09:19 AM            

This is 43 days apart, so more than the 40 you list on the page but less than two months obviously. Does closeness in age lead to potential invalidness either way in your opinion (perhaps too many points or too few)?

After the basics (the points based on your page up there) my example gets 29. Add in only the soulmates listed there and it's 39 points. Isis and Innanen are only sextile Osiris and Adonis, so I couldn't count them in for any of that either, nor count any Fated Soulmate pair links in yet.

I'll have to see about the Moon persona charts out of curiosity. At a first glance A's Fortuna is 1 conjunct B's ASC and B's Karma ~2 degrees trine A's ASC, so I expect the points will work to about the same based on what I know about the people or what I think is it.

"Fated-SoulMate Pair Linking Aspects" I'd like a few more specifics on though, if you'll pardon my asking more.

1) In your opinion, is something like A's Pluto sextile B's Karma and Karma opposite B's Persephone a valid linked connection between two people's charts? I'm mostly asking because you don't list sextiles with your page. Seems apt enough to me, especially in light of the following also there.

B's Pluto is 3 degrees conjunct A's Persephone. A's Proserpina is ~2 degrees square B's ASC/DC and B's Pluto sextile A's ASC. B has Persephone 2 degrees conjunct their MC, A has Persephone on their IC. A's Draconic Persephone is exactly conjunct B's draconic Pluto.

2) Likewise I'd need to ask if A's Hera sextile B's Saturn and A's Saturn conjunct B's Zeus qualified for your linked pairing type things. Again the sextile question at you.

3) Thirdly, take A's Aphrodite trine B's Fortuna and reverse with A's Fortuna square B's Adonis-Aphrodite. It's a linked connection but you don't list square aspects either. Do you only count Innanen for Adonis, or do you take Aphrodite, Ishtar or Astarte also into account with potential _links_?

4) Any possible take on a Composite T-square of 2H Scorpio Tyche opposite 8H Taurus Moon, square 11H Leo Karma?

Karma Sabian:
Leo 18. A chemist conducts an experiment for his students/A teacher of chemistry

Moon Sabian:
Taurus 19. A newly formed continent/A New Continent Rising Out Of The Ocean

Tyche Sabian:
Scorpio 17. A woman the father of her own child/A Woman, Fecundated By Her Own Spirit, Is "Great With Child"

Creation issues mixed with chemistry Karma?

5) Would you consider something like A's Saturn conjunct B's Tara and A's Siva trine B's Saturn a similarly valid linking aspect in unmentioned soulmate type pairs? A's Siva is conjunct B's ASC likewise.

There are also mirroring patterns in my example natals like Rudra's solstice point being opposite Kaali and Tara's solstice point opposite Siva in A's natal chart. A's antiscion Tara is thus on B's DC. With B it's Siva's solstice point opposite Kaali when Siva is otherwise 2 degrees square Kaali.

posted September 05, 2013 10:33 AM            

As for the examples with a Moon Persona comparison... Without knowing soulmate type asteroids or Lust or Vesta for the Moon Persona charts, the basics first off gave 37 points already before anything extra on top. About as expected, although some 10 of the points came from element matches alone, nothing "stronger".

There was another possible +4 points from some aspects being 1 degree 45' off instead of your required 1d 30', or 1'58' or so, so reasonably close aspects no matter what. Then there were the wider 3 degree Mars trine Aphrodite or Aphrodite 2 sextile Eros or exact Venus square Eros style things that I likewise couldn't count in at ALL if sticking to the listed things precisely.