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Topic: Vesta in Synastry
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Azurenite Knowflake Posts: 64 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted October 10, 2013 12:13 PM
I recently fell in love with Vesta. I feel her in my chart immensely. (Scorpio 14 5th house)Anyway, how does Vesta work in a man's chart? and in synastry? His Vesta is conjunct my Mars exact in Libra 17 his 6th house, my fourth. Any comments?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 49915 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 10, 2013 12:33 PM
vesta is lovely. It is sacrifice for the good of the other with little thought for the self.------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9842 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 10, 2013 02:38 PM
Vesta is dedication, but to a higher spiritual purpose. Also governs sacred sexuality in a tantric way.IP: Logged |
lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 449 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted October 10, 2013 04:22 PM
how is vesta conjunct amor and psyche in synastry?IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 1092 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 11, 2013 03:50 AM
I've got someone's Vesta exactly conjunct my Lilith; a bit wider with his Neptune to my Mercury, but exactly opposite my Chiron (and trine his Pluto); it also squares my natal NNode-Vesta.Any kind of physical or erotic expression between us has always been rather surreal and spiritual. It was always unconsciously purposeful and deeply transformative. Even healing. His Vesta is in my 3H; mine is in his 12H. We're writers; often being rather inspired by the more soul-shaking things. If I had to condense it to a single word, I'd say: 'transcendental'.
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Azurenite Knowflake Posts: 64 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted October 11, 2013 08:58 AM
WOW, thank you everyone. I can relate to all of this.IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 1070 From: Midwest Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 11, 2013 11:48 AM
May I ask a question regarding Vesta in a natal chart? But it can also be applied to synastry. It seems that Vesta and nessus are pretty much polar opposites from what I've heard. The thing is, I have both nessus and Vesta conjunct Midheaven. (in cancer) So what then? How does that work? The synastry is that if someone else aspects my Mc, they also aspect those. Especially nessus as it's a 1' conjunction. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 1092 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 11, 2013 12:56 PM
They're not opposites, Zander, as much as entirely separate energies.Vesta is a serene devotion; Nessus is abusive, calculating, and withholding. It will push, inveigle, and fight in order to get what it wants - to the point of destroying the object of desire. As some have said, the Vestal Virgins were not actual virgins at all - but independent, dedicated women who delightfully gave of their sexuality in the pursuit of 'vestal' pursuits: transcendence and devotion to higher cause. Sex was never a means of procreation, but, really, tantra. They were tantra maidens. Nessus does show the unfortunate patterns of abuse, however. I can imagine, (with my writerly-mind) the sort of scenario. You're employed by someone, pouring your heart and soul into your work, sacrificing in certain cases. There's an attraction to this person. You don't want to 'go there' because of the work relationship, but they're very forceful about it. (Vesta always channels her devotion into a point she's near, and the house she occupies, so that would give greater insight into how or what. Same with Nessus; the sign, house, and aspects can be very telling.) In this situation, the 'abuse' wouldn't even have to be overt. You might simply find your job jeopardised due to circumstances - or your work might be undermined by the relationship. Treating Vesta in this manner is extremely dicey, however. She doesn't like sex unless it's FOR something. Typically a cause. Creatives who sexualise for their art? That's okay. Activists who sexualise their work for their message? That's cool, too. Sacrificing the sanctity of work in order to satisfy the forceful need of another? That's a no-no. Nonetheless, Nessus is a powerful dude. Anytime he starts hanging around a specific point, it's 'dominated' - whether intentionally or circumstantially. The greatest conflict is when Nessus starts using their power or authority to undermine the work of Vesta. The opposition is very compelling, however. This is where we can find the otherwise 'exciting' instance of a taboo work relationship with an imbalance of power turning diabolical. Now it's not a longer lunch - it's 'your job'. See how that works? Careful with Nessus. When we become too frustrated with the point, it's best to try and gingerly follow the threads of abuse to the start. An active, or OOB, Nessus will always have roots in the natal.
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 1092 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 11, 2013 01:11 PM
Additionally, my costar's Nessus is smack on my MC. It can get a bit overbearing, but for the most part, he simply 'dominates' a project. Sometimes, he'll take my direction, (and there are times it's very valued) others, he'll flat do it his way, period. Eh, what can you do?His Valentine is parallel my MC, (though not Nessus), so I'm sure that helps to soften the blow. I never feel it's anything outside of sheer stubbornness, or silently asserting that HE knows how HE's going to do this, thankyouverymuch. Rather than think, 'he doesn't respect my direction at all!' I simply sigh and go, ' ... well, okay then.' 95% he does a superlative job, so, hey. That's really the only thing for which I've ever had concern. Outside of it squaring my Venus. But ... uhh ... that hasn't been a bad effect, actually .... nudge-nudge, wink-wink, say-no-more. The tightest aspect is his natal sextile to Saturn, which I can attribute to an indirectly domineering father. Insidious, because he was never able to point directly to the cause of the abuse. It was just THERE. Very unsettling. (Don't be an alcoholic, Dads. Really messes things up.) Otherwise, the only hard aspect he's got natally is a square to Psyche. Now that one is interesting. He has specific training and experience in the area of influence; persuasion, and the like. 'Mental domination and pattern manipulation', I'd say. Naturally, since it's Nessus, a lot of that was developed in response to the heavy load of having to defend his own thoughts, ideas, and ideals from unwanted domination. As such, it is something to watch with him. You never quite know if the man's psyopping you. So, there's my Nessus spiel. I can imagine involving Vesta WOULD certainly create confusion and for the poor girl to feel tossed about. So, natally, and synastrically, I'd make sure that your 'Vestal values' are not being trampled by those in the Nessus role, i.e., having more power or authority in the relationship.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 49915 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 11, 2013 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Zander916: May I ask a question regarding Vesta in a natal chart? But it can also be applied to synastry. It seems that Vesta and nessus are pretty much polar opposites from what I've heard. The thing is, I have both nessus and Vesta conjunct Midheaven. (in cancer) So what then? How does that work? Great question. Well, you will have both parts of yourself showing to the world. The synastry is that if someone else aspects my Mc, they also aspect those. Especially nessus as it's a 1' conjunction.
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olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 15, 2013 08:05 AM
What if the man's Nessus is conj. women Vesta in Virgo no less? plus His Psyche in virgo adds to the conj. ( all with 3 degrees)
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LuckyStar Knowflake Posts: 92 From: Elysian Fields Registered: Oct 2013
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posted October 23, 2013 07:14 PM
My Vesta is 17 sag conjunct my Venus at 14 sag both conjunct ascendant at 10 degrees sag. Would this mean love and beauty is sacred to me?IP: Logged |
lisalisa Knowflake Posts: 449 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 24, 2013 02:27 PM
My vesta conjunct his amor exact What will this mean?IP: Logged |
Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 24, 2013 03:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by lisalisa: My vesta conjunct his amor exact What will this mean?
I think your answer is already in this thread. Dedication and devotion (Vesta) meets unconditional love (Amor). Has good potential! IP: Logged |
Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 24, 2013 03:21 PM
BTW, I have Vesta and Vesta conjunct in synastry. Nearby, but not close enough to conjunct, I have my Nessus conjunct his Amor, and a little bit further away, but all still within Taurus I have my Cupido conjunct his Nessus. I wish I had a better handle on how a "negative" asteroid interacts in conjunction with a "positive" or "love" asteroid. I guess I can see the possibility it could be nice, with the "love asteroid" person being able to love and accept even the most negative aspects of the Nessus person, or it could go all to hell? Anything else I should be aware of since Taurus is involved in all of these, including Vesta? Oh; the Nessus conjunctions are in my 5th house; the Vesta conjunction in my 6th. I don't know which of his houses they touch; he doesn't know his time of birth and hasn't dug his BC out of the safe deposit box yet. IP: Logged | |