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Ami Anne
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posted October 10, 2013 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of the Box Brilliance—–Quoar
By amiann

Quoar is not the nerd with his slide ruler. Quoar is not the pre med student cramming for his organic Chem quiz. There is nothing wrong with these people. These people are smart but they are not Quoar. Quoar follows no one. He leads. He goes places others will not and can not. Quoar lives outside the box and that is what makes him brilliant in a jaw dropping, gasping way.

The classic example is Paul McCartney, who has Quoar conjunct Mercury, exact. Quoar seems very degree dependent in that every degree makes a difference in the level of brilliance. Albert Einstein had Quoar conjunct the ASC, exact. If you listen to McCartney’s songs and his words, there is nothing to call him but pure genius, out of the box genius. He created what no one had created up to that point or ever will. That is Quoar. It lives on into eternity as these two men will.

Quoar can be conjunct Mars in great athletes. Cassius Clay who later became Mohammud Ali has Quoar conjunct Mars, the planet of sports and aggression The chart never lies. I need to research Quoar more in the charts.. It is funny but as you suspect, it is rare to find Quoar conjunct personal points . How many out of the box genius people can we have? :P


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posted October 18, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, I've always wondered what Quoar (spelled Quaoar at Astrodienst) was about.

I have it conjunct Uranus, two minutes shy of a two degree orb. So it is square my Mercury, 3.33 degrees.

Oh well, coulda been a genius but it didn't happen this time around.

Not to challenge what you are saying but I just fished around for stuff to add to the discussion:

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Quaoar in the natal chart

The newly-discovered planet, Quaoar, is an astrological key to identifying and understanding generational influences, particularly the Indigo children for whom Quaoar is a key defining astrological planet.

The Quaoar myth from the indigenous Tongva people of southern California eeriely resonates with the high esoteric Sanskrit teachings from India and the esoteric teachings of Kabbalah, the Jewish mystical tradition, and points to possible astrological meanings for this new planet

The mythology of Quaoar is fascinating. While on its own, the mythology is a simple but beautiful creation story from one of North America's indigenous peoples, it also contains echoes from some of the high esoteric teachings of the Eastern Sanskrit traditions and echoes from the mystical Kabbalah. These echoes may provide clues for the astrological and spiritual significance of Quaoar and what its interpretation might be in the natal astrogical chart of individuals.

Like the other outer planets (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto), astrological interpretation of Quaoar by zodiac sign will be a generational indicator rather than a personal energy in the natal chart.

Quaoar in aspect to the luminaries:

Are you particularily fond of dance, religious or sacred music? Are you particularily fond of an amorphous rendition of a supreme creator? Are you known as a really good delegator of work? Do you have any strong affinities for Native American spirituality in general or Southwest US native religious beliefs or sites in particular? Do you prefer shamanistic belief systems rooted in things of the earth as opposed to more cerebral forms of spiritual philosophy?


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It doesn't aspect my luminaries except by sign, but YES, have always been strongly attracted to the Southwest, 'wore brick red and turquoise (common Native American color scheme for mother earth, father sky) practically every day in college as I studied Spanish (in preparation for moving to Santa Fe...which hasn't happened yet.)

As for genealogy, my great grandfather's Mercury was right between my Uranus and Quaoar, his daughter (my grandmother) had her Chiron exactly on my Quaoar (ten minute orb). My paternal grandparents got married when transiting Cupido was conjunct my Quaoar/granny's Chiron.

What's it mean? I don't know... but I think a lot of my grandmother's Chiron issues became my issues and are tied up in my 4H (where Uranus-Quaoar abides in my chart.)

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posted October 18, 2013 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and doesn't it just figure? I've been digging into charts like crazy today while my husband watches our kids (I'm sick with a cold)...

Just discovered that Quaoar is closer to our composite sun than anything else I've found so far:

sun: 26.50 Libra
Quaoar: 26. 19 Quaoar

And what a fine time to discover this, when the sun is at 24.46 Libra.

PS: I just checked and my husband and I got together when a Quaoar-Pluto conjunction was transiting conjunct his Saturn and my Venus. Hm!

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posted October 18, 2013 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mine is retro, and conjuncts south node, <1 deg

edit: hey, ya know what's funny: transit merc conjunct it atm

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posted October 18, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting quaror is retrograde conjunct my pluto in sag 1st house

Saturn will cross it in a few years xD; what would this mean?

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posted October 18, 2013 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Degrees count? Lies, I say, lies!

Quaoar conjunct Mercury in Scorpio, 1.5 orb. Curiously, almost exact with my Eros, however. Both 3H.

I've definitely been called ingenious in the realm of transgressive fiction, and always ahead of my time.

That would certainly make sense. My characters - and at least two of my works - will definitely change the game and be added to that list of those oft-referenced gothic antiheroes and villains: Dr Lecter, The Phantom, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, The Count Dracula ...

So glad you shared this, Ami. I always learn something from these posts of yours. Very much appreciated.

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posted October 19, 2013 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohhh, an Indigo connexion? Now THAT jives. I'm, well, just look at my user-nick.

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posted October 23, 2013 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have quaoar conj asc exact. but my asc is opposite sun, square mars.

however, the description of making something new chimed with me because when studying, i always wanted to discover something new rather than just regurgitate previous theories in analysis- seemed pointless unless i could contribute something new.

at the moment though i am in uncomfortable territory because i am having to learn basic skills by recourse to what has gone before just so i can get to the stage where i can create something new. maybe that is where the opposition comes into it. it's very painful for me really to work this way than organically & paving a new path.

on another site someone mentioned the quaoar-ixion conjunction being on the ascendant as a possible sign of being a genius at self-harm, self-destruction or something of that ilk & that also applies to me.

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posted October 23, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by florence:
i have quaoar conj asc exact. but my asc is opposite sun, square mars.

however, the description of making something new chimed with me because when studying, i always wanted to discover something new rather than just regurgitate previous theories in analysis- seemed pointless unless i could contribute something new.

at the moment though i am in uncomfortable territory because i am having to learn basic skills by recourse to what has gone before just so i can get to the stage where i can create something new. maybe that is where the opposition comes into it. it's very painful for me really to work this way than organically & paving a new path.

on another site someone mentioned the quaoar-ixion conjunction being on the ascendant as a possible sign of being a genius at self-harm, self-destruction or something of that ilk & that also applies to me.



Wow Thanks for chiming in, Florence. Do you have Ixxion conj the ASC, too?

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posted October 23, 2013 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Wow Thanks for chiming in, Florence. Do you have Ixxion conj the ASC, too?



yes - by one degree. what i took from the other site was that ixion-quaoar is a generational conjunction and so the self-destruction might feature for quite a few with a significant placement.

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posted October 23, 2013 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But the ASC is personal to each person and so very pivotal to your chart. Please, explain more of how you feel them, if you care to.

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posted October 23, 2013 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by florence:
yes - by one degree. what i took from the other site was that ixion-quaoar is a generational conjunction and so the self-destruction might feature for quite a few with a significant placement.
yeah that's right on my SN...bout to self destruct in 5....4....3...2....

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posted October 23, 2013 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow How do you feel it?

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posted October 23, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me? the will to self destruct is very strong. not as strong as the will to WIN however. strong aries

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posted October 23, 2013 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Quoar exactly conjunct my Psyche. Not sure what that means but i quess i was a gifted child (mathematically etc.)

..They also exactly trine my North Node and and form a quincunx to my Venus and the other way around to my Chiron. Bit weird.

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posted October 23, 2013 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
But the ASC is personal to each person and so very pivotal to your chart. Please, explain more of how you feel them, if you care to.


i find it hard to separate from other things in my chart but when another drew my attention to it, it did make sense.

at the time i could feel it out more because i was in a bad pattern & then i read up on the ixion myth about him turning over in a wheel - that's very much how it felt. a kind of inevitability, involuntary drive of energy towards bad things and then finding i'd manage to find myself in situations i fear but that i'd actually created for myself.

but now i've stepped back a little, i imagine everyone feels it to some degree in life's wrestle. so, ...

do you find the asteroids echo planetary patterns in the natal? maybe because i'm not so used to it, but to me it seems they are micro versions. either way can't completely separate enough to explain just yet. i'd like to claim the quaoar and leave the ixion tho

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posted October 23, 2013 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive a kite including Ouaoar--


Atlantis taurus@7.20 opposed Quaoar scorp@7.49 & Samadhi scorp@8.27
IC cap@9.47
Sphinx virgo@6.45

Ouaoar trined my MC cancer@9.47
and Osiris pisces@10.42


Any thoughts??

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posted October 24, 2013 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting , thank you for posting, learn something new everyday.

Mine is in Scorpio exactly conj. my Uranus in the 5th--

Excelled in science mainly- but an interest Occult since I was a kid.
Don't know how this will manifest now with the Nodes plus SATURN , an awakening ??? Maybe through 5th activities?
Any info /link will be great!

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posted December 05, 2013 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, what would you say about Quaoar exactly conjunct Pluto in 12h 3 degrees Sag, also conjunct ascendant at 4 degrees Sag?

This is the chart of a boy, who as a preschooler said, "mommy if God created everything who created God?"
And in elementary school said "when I grow up I want to create new animal species and live in a glass house in the middle of the rain forest. "

Now he wants to become a computer programmer.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more chart to mention. I'm looking at Quaoar conjunct Saturn one and a half degrees in the 12h libra, within 7 degrees of the ascendant This is the chart of a musical child prodigy. I did not know this until he told me. When I first met him I immediately thought he was quite out of the box and i didn't understand him at all because he was so unusual, until he asked me to look at his chart. What a trip spending time with him!

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posted December 06, 2013 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi PlutoSurvivor

I have Quaoar conjunct Mercury exact in the 3rd house, the house of communication. I'm not a prodigy of any description, but I do have a keen interest in making complex ideas understandable. After all, I trained as a teacher! I became a consultant for the education service because of my ideas on how to teach young people. I dream of making a difference to the world some day via communications on the internet.

So, a talent perhaps but not a prodigious one.

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posted December 07, 2013 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lucky you, astro keen
thanks for sharing

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posted December 08, 2013 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Conjunct NN exact (39' difference)
2nd house Scorpio

6 degrees

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posted December 08, 2013 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it conjunct my MC in Sagittarius.

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posted October 13, 2014 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ungumuda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Quaor conjuct asc exact. I wouldn't call my self out-of-the-box brilliance, but I do like to think outside the box
Beside new things, I like the unusual, the unconventional, matter that often overlooked by most.

It also conjunct Ixioon and lilith. How they played out in my life? well I'm drawn to women's right issue, especially domestic violence victim. I found out that I have Diana conjuct MC, I believe that she's goddess protector of the vulnerable, so I think that fit well with this theme.

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