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IndigoDirae
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posted October 11, 2013 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't find anything on this. Does it operate like an unconscious conjunction? I've certainly become a big fan of declination. For some reason, the parallels and contraparallels are like the 'hidden links' for me. They create a sense of a more complete picture.

I could certainly say the parallel IS felt. I've never experienced one's Eros on my Psyche. I've been the Eros conjunct a man's Psyche, though. It makes me a bit envious! Such powerful longing and bonding.

There is some aspect activity here as well.

In this case, his Eros is septile my Psyche (I certainly feel that, too) with his Psyche sextile my Eros. Our Eroses are also quindecile, and Psyches square. His Psyche is on my Venus-ASC, however, and conjunct his Pluto. My Psyche sextiles his Moon, Venus-Karma, and trines his Mars and my Sun-Pluto. My Eros is trine his Sun and quincunx his Saturn (yeah, I know!). His Eros is conjunct his Moon, opposite his Mars and my Sun-Pluto. The Eros-Moon is in my 8H. My Eros is in his 12H; my Psyche is in his 7H, however. His Psyche is, as I mentioned, on my ASC, in the 1H.

As his Eros is part of a configuration - conjunct his Moon, opposite his Mars conjunct my Sun-Pluto, involving the 8H; and my Psyche is trine my Sun-Pluto, his Mars, sextile his Moon, septile his Eros, I wondered if that interplay and connectivity is enough to make a parallel more actively felt.

There are a few other interesting affinities, too.

Off the cuff, our Eroses are both in the Pisces decanate with Psyches in the Aquarius one.

His Eros in Aries conjunct his Moon ruled by his Mars in Libra conjunct my Sun-Pluto trine my Psyche in Gemini, sextile his Moon, septile his Eros.

My Psyche in Gemini trine his Mars in Libra ruling his Moon and Eros in Aries opposite my Sun-Pluto in Libra.

His Eros (5H) Sun in Cancer
My Psyche (10H) Mercury in Scorpio

His Aries Eros to Mars in Libra conjunct my Sun in Libra ruled by my Venus in Virgo ruled by my Mercury in Scorpio ruled by my Pluto in Libra trine Gemini Psyche.

My Gemini Psyche to Mercury in Scorpio trine his Sun in Cancer ruled by Moon in Aries conjunct Aries Eros.

It's just intriguing how many ways they're connected.

So, any thoughts? Forgive any repetition. The hour is late.

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IndigoDirae
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posted October 13, 2013 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously? Nothing?

I'm thinking the paralell has to be SOMETHING in someone's experience.

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posted October 13, 2013 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sure it has.

Declinations are important, though we also have to consider that paralels/ contraparallels happen more often than conjunctions/opposition per probability.

However, it might not be so much the case with asteroids, as most of them apparently are not attached to the ecliptic like planets are.

Example would be my ERos at 54N. lol

(the boundary of the eccliptic is about 23 degrees).

Interestingly I found an article on oob Eros:
"Eros by Declination-Out of Bounds!

Eros

Out-of-bounds planets are any that have a declination greater than 23 degrees 27’. The declination is the angular distance of a planet north or south of the celestial equator.

Out-of-Bounds simply means “outside of the boundary of the ecliptic”, or the path of the earth’s orbit around the sun. (This is the apparent path of the sun through the sky.) Because of the tilt of the earth’s axis, the sun appears to stay within 23 degrees 27’ north of the equator and 23 degrees 27’ south of the equator. Anything “outside” of that is considered “Out-of-bounds”.

What does it mean to have Eros beyond the ecliptic by declination?

We know that out-of-bounds personal planets in the natal chart act in more EXTREME ways. They are on the edge—beyond the boundary. They express beyond the normal parameters because their energy is excessive and zealous in nature. It is really “out there”.

“I've found that generally the higher the degree of declination, the more pronounced the effect of the out-of-bounds planet will be, whether this is expressed in terms of greater accomplishment for the native or in some type of abnormal behavior.” –Pamela Welch --For her complete article on Out-of-Bounds Declinations, Click here

Out-of-bounds can be extreme creative expression, extreme passion, extreme delusion or extreme degradation. The operant word, of course, is extreme. Out-of-bounds does nothing in halves and when you have a body like Eros in the extreme, you can start to get the picture of what this might mean.

After all, Eros creates chaos at the best of times!

Eros flies over the earth and over the loud-roaring salt sea and bewitches the one on whose frenzied mind he darts, winged and gold-gleaming, he bewitches the whelps of the mountain and those of the sea, what the earth brings forth and what the blazing sun looks down upon, and likewise mortal men. --Euripides*

What might be that “bewitchment” when Eros knows no bounds?

As you might guess, people with an out-of-bounds planet tend to know no boundaries and accept no limits. Often there's no stopping them. This can result in boundless creativity and success, allowing the native to go way beyond the potential that one might normally expect. However, an out-of-bounds planet can also be negatively expressed, leading to abnormal or unstable behavior which is outside the accepted standards of society. Its energy can indicate a tendency toward mental one-sidedness or at the very least create a lot of pressure and stress in an individual's life. –Pamela Welch

Comments welcome on the Forum!"
http://www.falconastrology.com/oob.html


There is a way to calculate a co-declination (where it would be as if on the ecliptic). For that we take the figure the asteroid exceeds the boundary of 23°27 and substract it.
http://www.solsticepoint.com/seconddec.html


In terms of my oob Eros it gets complicated, as it so far out of bounds.
Even after conversion it is still out of bound at 29 degree N (if we converted it another time it would be between 5-6 N; not sure we can do it).


I always like to look at the declination equivalent charts though.

It is the chart how it would look like if you expressed the declinational values as zodiacal length. (there are always two positions possible, due to the interconnection of the solsticepoints).
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/declination/

I really haven`t experienced Eros-Psyche-parallels/ contraparallels.

Though my Cupido is contraparallel someone`s Psyche. And our Psyches are conjunct and parallel each other.


(It is out of orb of opposing - 5 degrees - but tha happens quite often that if the conjunction/ opposition is at wide orbs, the parallel or contraparallel will be pretty close; at least this happens with the fixed signs).

In the declinational equivalent charts we have a conjunction of Psyche and Psyche and an opposition of Eros and Eros.

Interestingly we met, when both our Psyches had progressed to conjunct his natal ERos on 8 Pisces.
(but no parallel, well our Psyches were still parallel each other; they seem to be pretty inseparable)

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IndigoDirae
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posted October 13, 2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You always give me way more than I can handle, Ceri! Haha. Now I see it's your OOB Eros 'to blame'!

Wow. This is going to be fun to sink my teeth into ....

I'm definitely taking a closer look into Psyche, too. His is on my Ascendant-Venus, which I think I said. Makes a nice sextile to my Eros-Mercury, but squares my Valentine. Loosely trines my Chiron, and sextiling my Lilith. My Psyche is nicely activated by his points, too: conjunct Valentine, sextile Moon, trine Mars-Lilith, semisextile Mercury, sextile Venus-Karma, quincunx Neptune, square Uranus-Pluto, and Amor.

Sigh. Wish we could overcome this 12H energy. It's rough. I want to get back to those surreal experiences I told you about. The ones that felt like an escape from all the harshness and drudgery of our lives.

Sigh. Just not there yet.

I will say that his Eros parallel my Psyche feels oddly like an unconscious version of the conjunction. At least in terms of the longing I feel. That's a new one for me.

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posted October 14, 2013 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You always give me way more than I can handle, Ceri!"
sorry, I guess I got carried away again. Happens quite often. lol

" Haha. Now I see it's your OOB Eros 'to blame'!"
Yes, probably. he literally knows no bounds


"I'm definitely taking a closer look into Psyche, too. "
Yes, I think so.

I just found it so interesting that Mr Sag and me have a Psyche-psyche-conjunction within one degree, with his Pallas exactly conjunct my Psyche (in Aquarius).
since it is on 24-25 Aquarius it is sextile his Sun-Moon (26-28 Sag), my Sun and Mercury (25), and trines both Adonis positions, his is on 24 Libra, mine is on 27 Libra.

I haven´t checked for parallels though. But it is still an interesting configuration. The Psyche-Adonis trine with our Sun-Moon//Sun-Mercury-conjunction smack on the midpoint of it.
As if this one on the Galactic Centre needed any more emphasis, attention and spotlight!!!

"His is on my Ascendant-Venus, which I think I said."
Psychic links for sure.

"I will say that his Eros parallel my Psyche feels oddly like an unconscious version of the conjunction."
That makes sense to me. I feel it might be similar to solstice point activation. It is not as overt as a conjunction, more subtle, but at the same time very hypnotic. Like an undertow that is pulling you underneath, sucking you in, and you are not even quite aware what it is that pulls you under.


I actually was looking up Aphrodite and Adonis after they were mentionied somewhere here.
Turns out my Adonis on 10.47S is contraparallel his Aphrodite on 10.39 N. lol

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