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Jovian
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posted October 10, 2012 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iq I was just reading the thread you started, from a while back, with some of member RedStar’s analyses of similar aspects in the Royal Family, and those apparently related to the family, here:

“For RedStar: Venus-Kaali and Bloodline Discussions”
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000086.html

She was focused especially upon the frequency of Kaali aspects to Venus and to Pluto. And I see you here mention Kaali to Venus, and also to DNA, as suggestive of "Reptilian genetics."

I do have VENUS sq KAALI (<1) and was interested in seeing if my family members did as well, as I do feel my mother’s side is definitely of that “Reptilian” vein, if we are using it to describe a certain personality type borne of certain ancestry, perhaps.

(Of course, I also noticed your answer to someone's question here ...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000890.html
...about Venus-Kaali square!)

…My mother’s side is descended from Scottish, as well as English settlers to a region in Canada in the 1700’s, who seemed to intermarry amongst themselves. I believe my grandparents are 2nd cousins. …I always felt my Grammy (my mother’s mother) to be Queen Elizabeth’s long-lost cousin, because of her demeanor. She even looks quite like her. Very duty-bound and methodical in her little world. Some would perceive her as cold. Respecting of traditions she was raised with. Very intelligent. Graduated from university. Not one to ever say, “I love you.” –Not possible! But, there was much security felt in how she kept to her scheduled tasks—preparing the meals, going to market, tending the garden, making us take naps at certain times, etc.

My grandfather’s family name and her family name were both of Scottish clans that held castles, and battled endlessly, centuries ago. I found a reference recently to these two clans having been allies…but later becoming enemies over religion—one being Protestant and one Catholic. Ha! …And here they were, symbolically uniting once again, through my grandparents.

Grammy was very keen on tracing ancestry, and traced one branch back to a small religious group fleeing England, coming to the Plymouth Bay area in Massachusetts in the early 1600’s with the others of the time. …I’m mentioning this in reference to the purported “Reptilian” habit of wanting to trace bloodlines.

My father’s side is very different, with his father from Italy and mother of Hungarian descent. …This grandmother was the opposite—pinching your cheeks, squeezing you, stuffing you with food, and stuffing money in your hand when you left. She left school after the eight grade, to take care of her elderly aunt. She was the dearest, most empathetic person you'd ever know.

So, I have since come to perceive these two sides as representing the Reptilian and the other representing the more mammalian human sides of things—Lyraean, I guess is what I’ve seen it referred to here.

Grammy had a number of aspects with the bodies mentioned by RedStar.

She has VENUS sq KAALI (<2) in Scorpio
VENUS conj LILITH
KAALI sq LILITH
KAALI sext DNA
KAALI tri NEPTUNE
KAALI qx KARMA
SUN sq LUCIFER
SUN sq HEKATE

Meanwhile, the other Grandmother interestingly has KAALI trine DNA (<2), as her only Kaali aspect. Though I don’t know the time of birth for either grandmother.

My mother has KAALI sext KARMA, which forms a Yod with PLUTO, if that even figures here.
My father has this same aspect, as they are only six days apart in birth. (A difference I notice is my mother's MOON forming a T-Square to her SUN-LILITH opposition.)

My brother—my mother’s only other child—has VENUS/JUPITER/KAALI conj ASC (<3), in Capricorn. He also has a lot of Lucifer and other aspects.

…If we can say it is further evidence of “Reptilian-ness” or a matrix that supports it, I do have Rh negative blood, and several of the characteristics mentioned in the many blood type threads here are fitting for me, e.g. low blood pressure, low basal temp. RedStar also mentioned high pain tolerance. Yes to that.

Interestingly, in that thread you started for RedStar, you mentioned that Lemuria was a Draco establishment. I was surprised to hear this, as I thought it was supposed to have been of a spiritually evolved bent. In the past I have felt drawn to learn about the idea of Lemuria, and not really drawn to Atlantis. Several years ago, in one of my many episodes of “working” on myself, I felt as if a very old and weary entity…what I felt could be construed as Reptilian…parted with me one day. I don’t know if it was supposed to represent an energetic attachment from the past, or part of my own past, or what . I sensed he was tired of the game.

I’ve accepted that part of my soul heritage, if you will. Each side has different strengths. ...Though, my parents divorced long ago! My mother still perceives my father as a "wimp." --So telling of their different backgrounds!

...I hope this account wasn't too out of place, considering the topic. There aren't many threads to share such things on, and that other one was getting unwieldy. Just hoping to contribute the subject with a "human" story. I think we'd confirm the trend even more, if more shared these details.

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mirage29
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posted October 12, 2012 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anubis 1912
Dejanira 157
DNA 555555
Hekate 100
Kaali 4227
Karma 3811
Lilith 1181
Lucifer 1930
Nessus 7066
Siva 1170

1912,157,55555,100,4227,3811,1181,1930,7066,1170,

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anno_lucis
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posted February 23, 2013 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thread gave me nightmares

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BlackSeraph
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posted February 25, 2013 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting thread, I'll have to read it a little more in-depth when I have more time.

Here's what I can tell you about my chart though:

- Sun/DNA on Regulus
- Nessus on Sirius, square Mars/Pluto/Venus (Mars/Pluto straddling Algorab)
- Karma on Algol
- Siva on Spica
- Asteroid Lilith trine Siva
- Hekate on Aldeberan

And going draconic:
- DR Juno/Lucifer straddle N Black Moon Lilith (~1 deg orb or less on each side)
- DR Dejanira on N North Node
- DR Anubis trine N Saturn (~1*20' orb though)
- DR Kaali on N Ceres
- DR Hekate on N Vesta
- DR Moon/Chiron on N Uranus
- DR Mars on N Eris
- DR Eris on N Venus

iQ, I know you've looked at my chart a couple times... is there anything we may have overlooked given these placements? Still think it's safe to say I'm not in the MKULTRA running list unless there's something hidden that I'm unaware of.

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Oracle
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posted July 13, 2013 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oracle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Yes, my email id is in the links.

Interesting placement for your Kaali and Neptune for that is the degree of Ancient Egypt. POF is also the Shadow Moon [another subject altogether], the Arabic Parts show the Shadow Chart of our Subconscious.

You are most likely to have known Egyptian Occult through Freemasonry in a past lifeline. Maybe you lived in Ancient Egypt itself! But to confirm that I have to look at several other Asteroids like Isis, Osiris, Giza, Horus and Sphinx.


Hello IQ:

What if many of your Arabic Parts (The Shadow/Unconscious)are in Avataric aspects? What does this mean?

For example, I have Lust in Aquarius 15 degrees, Part of Fortune Leo 15 degrees, Part of Spirit Leo 15 degrees, Ancestral Heritage Leo 15 degrees, Ability Scorpio 16 degrees, Unusual Events Aquarius 15 degrees and Happiness Taurus 15 degrees just to name a few. My aspects are usually in fixed signs at 14-16 degrees.

Can you tell me what this means? Thank you.

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Oracle

Rising Gemini
Sun Capricorn
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Scorpio
Mars Scorpio 15 degrees
Jupiter Scorpio
Vertex Scorpio 16 degrees

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PlutoFish
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posted October 10, 2013 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Sun conjunct Kaali exact in the 1st house - Everytime i think about Kaali its like i turn invisible and i feel as if theirs dark forces watching me - Advice please?

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Randall
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posted October 11, 2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Asteroid Astrology.

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IndigoDirae
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posted October 11, 2013 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of curiosity, IQ, since you're speaking to government projects (MK Ultra, and the like) what would your take be regarding the US military? Specifically, psychological operations? Would these sorts of aspects be present - or would they be different?

What might you expect in the 'controller' rather than the 'controlled'? - or even more labyrinthine, 'the controller / controlled' ?

I may have some interesting data for you.

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IndigoDirae
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posted October 11, 2013 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may be reaching here, but if we're looking at Kaali aspects, this is what I'm seeing. (All within 1.5 of exact.)

Quindecile Ascendant
Sextile Moon (4H)
Quincunx Mercury (8H)
Sextile Venus
Trine Mars (10H)
Square Uranus
Quincunx Neptune (12H)
Square Pluto

Sextile Karma (8H)
Trine Lilith (10H)
Conjunct Valentine (7H)
Square Amor (4H)

Again, I have NO idea what I'm looking at, or for.

I can simply tell you this. This individual certainly feels very betrayed, upon having dedicated themselves to an institutional / organisational body. (No religious affiliation, however.) It's as if their eyes were opened to the overwhelming power that governments have to influence their citizenry, and it sickened them. They've since dedicated a good part of themselves to educating, informing, and warning of the dangers.

So, I found that interesting.

But, again, I am only an egg when it comes to looking at a chart for 'this' particular thing; I'm not even sure what 'this' is supposed to be.

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nordicsoul
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posted October 14, 2013 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does it meant
1) kaali conjunct pluto in fith house
2) hekate conjunct cancer sun (1:16 degrees) venus (2:35)mars (0:14) in end of 2nd house

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Kerosene
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posted October 14, 2013 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm Kaali is opposite Hekate exact.
Kaali sextile venus exact
Hekate trine venus exact

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