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Ceridwen
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posted November 03, 2013 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted the composite, DAvison and synastry with some asteroids.

What I found most interesting in the composite his the exact conjunction of Amor and Cupido around the NN, Camelot is on the very same degree btw.

Intriguingly the Amor on the NN results on having Amor square each other`s nodal axis.

Also I Did not put it in there, but his BML on 28 Leo is conjunct my BML on 28 Aquarius.
My natural Lilith on almost 28 Squarius, too, conjunct his Priapus on 00 Pisces, on his SN.
It seems to be a theme there.

No it is not an easy comparision, it very much a conjunction and square synastry.

However the fact that Amor is squaring the nodal axis and then in composite becomes conjunct the NN - it`s interesting.

The composite always reflects the natal charts and synastry; here the reason for this is that one way there is a waning and one way a waxing square tot he nodal axis.


What Cupido is doing up there, no clue. lol
Well we have a tight Trine synastrically between both Cupidos. Well, each Cupidos is equidistant to each other`s NN, even though not in a major aspect, so this reflection combines to a conjunction in composite.


anyway I am babbling here the charts:


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There is a lot of mirroring going on even if it might not be as easy to detect.

For example my Venus-Pluto-square is actually a square of my 5th house and 11th house ruler, with Venus in 1st and Pluto in 10th house.


For him it is his Moon-Saturn-square that is a square of his 5th and 11th house ruler with Moon in 10th and Saturn in 7th house.


FAscnating how this stuff sometimes works; it is a mirroring, expressed in a complementing way (his 7th house - my 1st house affected).
But with 5th and 11th house in tension, there are issues in the interrelationship between giving and receiving love, how loveable we feel in our selves.
Not very much I suppose.

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posted November 03, 2013 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 03, 2013 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thank you! I'm so happy, I can understand it all so much better now. It'll take me a while to digest it, and I'm a very amateur astrologer anyway, but still...

One thing real quick I was glad to see he's a Cap Venus, that adds longevity to the affections I think. And am I seeing this right, is your composite Venus at 16 Cap? Conjunct my 15.50+ sun. Funny and no wonder I'm so interested in the story, right? lol

I LOVE the 12H Venus it fits so well. And what do you make of Anubi on the ASC? I love his Eros on your Ceres in Pisces, sounds mystical.

Be back when I get more time!

Oh I forget to answer two quick questions of yours on email~ yes my Venus is at 6 Sag and my moon is at 18 Pisces.

ttyl =)

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posted November 03, 2013 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Thank you! I'm so happy, I can understand it all so much better now. "


"One thing real quick I was glad to see he's a Cap Venus, that adds longevity to the affections I think."
Yes, and his Cap Venus is closely trine his Saturn on the DESC.

Mr Sag seems to be a bit Mr Saturn in his relationships. lol

" And am I seeing this right, is your composite Venus at 16 Cap?"
Yes.

" Conjunct my 15.50+ sun. Funny and no wonder I'm so interested in the story, right? lol"
LOL
And you want to see behind the scenes, and with your Sun you probably can see more clearly what is going on.

my own Saturn is on 16.56 Cancer, opposing c-Venus - itkind of makes sense that I refuse to acknowledge the existence of Venus in the co posite, lol

BTW funnily on 23rd november (THAT day, yes).
Tr Venus will be exactly on 16 Capricorn. Means that very day our composite has a Venus-Return. lol


"I LOVE the 12H Venus it fits so well"
LOL
Most consider this to be disastrous. But anyway...


". And what do you make of Anubi on the ASC?"
In previous composites I found that Anubis in tight strong conjunction to the angles or exact aspect to Sun, Moon, Nodes and Neptune appears when there are some kind of astral experiences between two people. I still was startled to find it so directly on the ASC.

" I love his Eros on your Ceres in Pisces, sounds mystical."
Yes, me, too.
Actually my name in his chart is there as well, conjunct my Ceres and his Eros, while his name in hisc hart is on his Amor and Mars, opposing this. Nice, hu?

BTW this is the exact Venus-return of our composite, probably indicating the experiences this connection can expect for the next two years when it comes to Venus-matters.


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posted November 04, 2013 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Yes, and his Cap Venus is closely trine his Saturn on the DESC."

Nice! Yeah I have Venus trine Saturn and love people forever. Not really kidding, even if I forget I love someone they will come to me in dreams stirring up all the old emotions again. =)

"LOL
And you want to see behind the scenes, and with your Sun you probably can see more clearly what is going on."

Exactly! I always think it's hilarious when the charts reveal what's actually going on. Like here I am hanging out in your relationship's 12H, all ethereal, not even bodily present, and sure enough that's where my sun falls in your composite.

"my own Saturn is on 16.56 Cancer, opposing c-Venus - itkind of makes sense that I refuse to acknowledge the existence of Venus in the co posite, lol"

YES, makes sense.

"BTW funnily on 23rd november (THAT day, yes).Tr Venus will be exactly on 16 Capricorn. Means that very day our composite has a Venus-Return."

I got butterflies in my stomach thinking about that, I know how potent those transits can be...looooong story so just trust me.

But I don't want to creep you out by having my expectations TOO high, and just so you know, astral projection stories really count for something even if you don't talk to him that day. But why wouldn't you? (I see you don't like my suggested pick up line, however...ROTFL...I guess my Sag Venus makes me more bold, more willing to even make a fool out of myself, than I have even been paying attention to. I blurt out wacky stuff like that all the time.)

"Most consider this to be disastrous. But anyway..."

Not disastrous, my goodness, think of all the amazing times you have had with him. Even if you weren't ballroom dancing together or swordfighting, he's been a big part of your life, and it's been enjoyable. Even if it were just in your imagination which, as you know, I don't believe that it is, it wouldn't be a waste.

But I believe it's reciprocated.

"In previous composites I found that Anubis in tight strong conjunction to the angles or exact aspect to Sun, Moon, Nodes and Neptune appears when there are some kind of astral experiences between two people. I still was startled to find it so directly on the ASC."

Yeah, holy cow. That does fit with you two as well...not that I'm the authority (LOL) but if someone asked me, "What are Ceri and Mr Sag all about?" I would say "They have like an invisible, yet real, romance. Both feel it, and it involves some astral projection, psychic phenomena, as well as some potent but wordless confirmations in reality that Something Big is there."

"Actually my name in his chart is there as well, conjunct my Ceres and his Eros, while his name in hisc hart is on his Amor and Mars, opposing this. Nice, hu?"

I'm just flabbergasted.

"BTW this is the exact Venus-return of our composite, probably indicating the experiences this connection can expect for the next two years when it comes to Venus-matters."

Ack, I don't understand Venus returns at all!

Well I'm way behind on email, but I still wanted to ask you a few more questions here:

What do you make of Saturn in your composite 7H? Could go either way?

Do you think it's significant that his NN falls in your composite 7H? And it looks like his Juno is right on the composite DSC. I don't know what the degrees are on the composite 8H cusp, but whether his Jupiter-Mars-AMor falls in the 7th or 8th...either way, that's pretty significant, right?

And yeah, that composite NN-Cupido-Amor is hot. Figures that it's in your 9H, as you both are Sags. And I like that sextile from Saturn to that little stellium, and Saturn trine composite sun as well.

Mercury-Neptune-Sappho conjunction is brilliant. With all that in the composite 11H, it figures that you meet so often in public gatherings based around plays.

Do you count the six degree orb between composite moon and Venus? Seems like you feel it so....

I would. I mean, who's going to argue you about it anyway? =)

I don't mean to ignore the Davison chart but I have no practice whatsoever looking at that type, so I wouldn't feel right even guessing about it.

Now I'm going to go watch that YouTube video again and tell you when I see that stare I mentioned. I only watched it halfway through last time ('was in a hurry, as I often am) but he's got my attention for the next ten minutes or so!

Dayum he looks like my friend Jim though, it's hysterical.

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posted November 05, 2013 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Faith,

“Nice! Yeah I have Venus trine Saturn and love people forever.”
I like that and can relate to that. Well, my Venus does not trine Saturn, however it is in Capricorn, and my Juno trines Saturn, which is the tightest aspect in my chart.
Orb is 0°01.
Mr Sag also has an aspect between Juno and Saturn, his is a sextile with orb of 0°57. Still very tight.
Funny isn`t it, how we are mirroring each other in that?
Both having Venus in Capricorn square Pluto and both having an exact harmonious aspect between Juno and Saturn. Both Junos are in watersigns incidently, too.

Not every Sagittarius is running around playing the field, I think. Well I am not for certain. Lol
For him this Saturnian vibe is even stronger than for me, with his Saturn conjunct his DESC and Vertex, which is another thing we have in common. Saturn conjunct Vertex natally, though mine is a bit wide (4°31)

“Not really kidding, even if I forget I love someone they will come to me in dreams stirring up all the old emotions again. =)”
Yes, I know what you mean.

“Exactly! I always think it's hilarious when the charts reveal what's actually going on. Like here I am hanging out in your relationship's 12H, all ethereal, not even bodily present, and sure enough that's where my sun falls in your composite. “
LOL
Yes. Which is an interesting thought actually, to see how third parties might experience or see a relationship between two people by the aspects of their natal chart to the composite.
For example I noticed that My natal Moon and my middle brother`s ASC fall onto my parent´s composite DESC.
Another examples is my friends composite with her twinflame, their composite Jupiter is conjunct my natal Venus exactly. I love them as a couple, it fills me with hope and optimism that love actually IS possible after all.
Very inspiring.


“I got butterflies in my stomach thinking about that,”
When I woke up this morning, I got TOTALLY nervous for some reason. It was surreal almost. But I was apparently remembering the latest pics he put up of him, and got a very clear visceral reminder of his energy (the memorizing for me fluctuates; sometimes it is just like looking back on a photoalbum; but sometimes I remember people, not only him, because something inside of me remembers their energy. Difficult to explain I guess.), and I just thought that he was simply “too much”. That I probably would spontaneously combust (or getting really really shy. Lol), just by being in the same room as him.
Just some sort of thought I had been waking up with.
Is he ever going to leave my mind? It sometimes feels like he has made a home right in my braincells or something like that. Lol


“But I don't want to creep you out by having my expectations TOO high,”
But I want to hear the story! Please? *puppy dog eyes* I promise I will not have any expectations at all!


“I guess my Sag Venus makes me more bold, more willing to even make a fool out of myself, than I have even been paying attention to. I blurt out wacky stuff like that all the time.)”
Well, btw today the book “How to rule the world from your couch” arrived, it seems interesting, and I love the title. Lol
And I sometimes blurt out with that stuff, too.


“ot disastrous,”
I don´t think so either. But most other people do. What I think is that most people do not have a clue (sometimes not event he participants themselves) what is really going on behind closed doors in such a relationship.
However so it is Moon and Venus going on behind closed doors.

BTW I was surprised how often I have found the Moon in 12th house in composite, sometimes even in Pisces and in square to Neptune, in relationships. Lol
My parents are one example of these. Composite Moon in 12th house.
My friend and me have it, as her husband and her, too, (her husband`s Moon is conjunct mine tightly, so it is no surprise). Composite Moon in Pisces in 12th house.

My brother and his girlfriend do not have it, but they have sun, Mercury, Venus in Pisces in 12th house in composite.

Some celebrity relationships I saw:
Antonio Banderas – Melanie Griffith: Moon in Pisces in 12th house
Eric Clapton – Patty Boyd: Moon in Scorpio in 12th house
(they did not work out in the end though)
Paul Mc Cartney and his first wife Linda: Moon-Neptune-conjunction in 12th house
Pierre and Marie Curie: Moon in Capricorn in 12th house

I found that interesting, given the bad reputation this placement usually gets. It is just one position though of course, but probably no one really knows what is going on with such a couple anyway. Like people just don`t get how my friend and me can even be friends and for such a long time. There is just, I don´t know how to put it, we ARE different people, and we do live quite different lives, but we just get each other, and there is this subtle but very strong resonance, and appreciation and understanding of the other as she is. Our friendship shows that you do not have to come across as twins or very much alike, to really complement each other.
The same for my parents., They seem to be such different people, such different temperaments, but there is this hard to grasp feeling of psychic union.
As a matter of fact it probably helps them that they are different people, it is only because of that that they can really complement each other.
Maybe it is also because I was surrounded by that energy from my birth on, that I do not mind it in a composite either.

“ Even if you weren't ballroom dancing together or swordfighting, he's been a big part of your life, and it's been enjoyable”
LOL
Swordfighting would be great though.
Anyway it is very true, and I am impressed, not many people get that, how I can find that enjoyable. But I do. Have. Every step of the way was worth it, and I don´t regret anything. People sometimes – in retrospects- speak of transformational periods in their lives as “necessary evil” to get where they are now.
For me, though transformational to the core, this has never been the case. In a way I thrive on the excitement, the possibilities (or impossibilities. Lol); it is true he shakes me out of my comfortzone, but not only I am aware that I need that actually (or I would not move at all), but I secretly enjoy this immensely.
Can you believe that I was kinda sad when I saw that the Tr Pluto would leave the conjunction to my Sun? And recently my Venus?
Maybe I am just weird that way. But I love my life like this (even if I sometimes cry or feel scared or whatever – at least I am alive and feeling alive!)

“But I believe it's reciprocated. “
Say it again. Lol


“ "What are Ceri and Mr Sag all about?" I would say "They have like an invisible, yet real, romance. Both feel it, and it involves some astral projection, psychic phenomena, as well as some potent but wordless confirmations in reality that Something Big is there."”
I better not comment on this, but you managed to make me speechless there. Is it so obvious?


“I'm just flabbergasted. “
Yes, me, too.
It was also bordering the creepy – our first meeting chart is, well not easy, but holy moly!
Anyway on the day we met my pr Psyche (as well as his pr Psyche) were conjunct his natal Eros.

My pr Psyche: 7°49 Pisces
His pr Psyche: 6°50 Pisces
His n Eros: 8°21 Pisces
My name in his chart: 9°10 Pisces

But not only that, in the transits there was

Tr Mr Sag: 7°48 Gemini (exact on my DESC btw)
Tr Ceri: 7°41 Pisces

Honestly, what should I even say about this?

Another thing I just noticed when we met our pr composite had an exact conjunction of Moon and Psyche.
Now as we speak, years later, we are almost having in the pr composite a conjunction of Moon and Eros (2 degrees applying, will peak next January).

It`s just such tidbits I notice, also how Tr Jupiter is nearing the opposing degree of where it was when we met (and this was –coincidentally- conjunct composite Moon and my natal Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp and widely conjunct his Venus).

LOL I forgot to take out our names from the charts, and just noticed that when pr Moon will be conjunct pr Eros in the composite almost exactly – I picked 15th January- that there is an exact conjunction of our names in the transits. 2 Aquarius (right on our composite ASC – what the?) Oh and conjunct pr composite Sun by 1 degree applying.

Hmm, where can I run and hide? Lol
Maybe it is just coincidence.

Actually looking at the progressed composite for November, something was staring at me for some reason.
Pr Mercury on 13 Aquarius in 12th house, but on the brink of entering 11th house,
square pr Uranus on 13 Scorpio in 8th house
and trine pr Jupiter on 13 Gemini in 3rd house

Sabians:
13 Aquarius
A Train Entering A Tunnel
13 Scorpio
Telephone Lineman At Work Installling New Connections
13 Gemini
Bridging Physical Space And Social Distinctions, Two Men Communicate Telepathically

Should I be afraid?


Also noticed these exact aspects in pr composite

Pr Venus on 1 Pisces trine pr Adonis on 1 Scorpio
Pr Mars on 9 Scorpio trine pr Psyche on 9 Pisces

But I disgress A LOT. Lol

I am going to have to reply to the rest later though

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posted November 05, 2013 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, forgive my interrupting...do you think Anubis on comp Asc means this relationship is meant to show the way into the "otherworlds" (as Anubis did)...either for the two of you or others? I see Anubis as somewhat kin to Hekate in this sense...and he is also prominent in a composite i have been studying with some similar mysterious reverberations to yours

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posted November 05, 2013 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it was a consistent theme in the composites i researched (before I even met Mr Sag. lol).

Also with good friends, where there is this spiritual and psychic understanding and awareness. Anubis very clearly shows ways into other worlds and between the worlds. As Hekate as you pointed out.

Well I have not researched Hekate, but found it kinda interesting that in our composite Hekate is on 25 Leo in 7th house, right on the Vertex and opposing Psyche, while being trine Sun

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posted November 05, 2013 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both are prominent in the comp I mentioned...which has the added twist that the other person is so changed since our first meet forty odd years ago that I wasn't sure he was not an impostor! (there were real reasons why others might have replaced him to carry on their own pursuits, way too complicated to explain lol) and in the synastry too.

Thanks for mentioning it, new clarity is thrown on this mystery! Running into him did indeed show me a new way into the otherworlds.

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posted November 05, 2013 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:

Thanks for mentioning it, new clarity is thrown on this mystery! Running into him did indeed show me a new way into the otherworlds.


Glad it added more clarity. Is also a great confirmation of my findings, too.

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posted November 05, 2013 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,

"What do you make of Saturn in your composite 7H? Could go either way?"
Probably. Either it may keep a relationship from forming, but once in play, provides to be very lasting. Saturn is quite demanding.

Well, my brother has it withT his girlfriend (Saturn in Scorpio in 7th house), in the beginning they tried to break up like every other week, but somehow couldn´t. they evenutally gave in and simply moved in together, and the crazy thing is the longer they are together the more in love they seem to be. Like they do feel secure now to be affectionate openly with each other.

I found this when I googled:

"Saturn in the composite 7th house appears so disproportionately often in the composite charts of functioning partnerships, it has to be assumes that this is more than just happenstance. The probable reason for this is that the long-term cyclic energeries of the individuals flow together in such a way that the need and opportunity to form a partnership converge. Successful partnerships, like much else in life, are a product of fortuitous timing and circumstance. With Saturn in the composite 7th, the persons find their individual life objectives and aspirations not only attuned, but that by coming together in a partnership, they become more attainable. Seen in a more metaphysical way, this composite introduces an element of "fatedness" into the partnership and should, over the long term, contribute to the harmonious and parallel evolution of the individuals. The partners are less likely to mature away from each other and find themselves no longer in tune and compatible after a time within the relationship."
http://consciousevolution.com/LindaGoodmanForums/ubbthreads.php/topics/44705/4/indications_of_great_love


It also mirrors the fact that he has SAturn conjunct DESC in his natal.

"Do you think it's significant that his NN falls in your composite 7H?"
Maybe, though I think it would need aspects.
As a matter of fact in our pr composite we have Venus on 1 PIsces this year, right on his natal South Node. lol


" And it looks like his Juno is right on the composite DSC."
Funny, I never even noticed that. lol

But yes it might be significant. Actually i always check what a composite triggers in the natal chart as this determines how people deal with the energies generated.

Sometimes it is a wonderful composite, but if the natlals are not triggere appropriately, it is like the people involved do not really care.
Like you have a wonderfully wrapped up gift, but you don`t care unwrapping it at all.


If only one person is triggered: *sighs* Say hello to unrequited love!

"I don't know what the degrees are on the composite 8H cusp,"
12 Virgo.
His Mar son 11 Virgo is actually conjunct it, but the stellium is in 7th house of composite.


"And yeah, that composite NN-Cupido-Amor is hot."
I always find it nteresting how closely it falls onto his natal Pluto (and my Sappho) in his 7th house. Along with Mars (right on his PLuto and my Sappho as well()
While c-Moon is conjunct his Venus (3 degrees).

So the Moon-NN/Mars overlays his natal Venus-Pluto squares and brings it out in the open.

At the same time composite Moon is conjunct my Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp and opposite my Eros and c-Mars and NN are conjunct my Sappho.

So the very same aspect brings out my Vertex-Sun/Moon-mp-Eros-Sappho aspect.

Obviously that means it plays into our synastric Pluto-Sappho conjunction in squrae to my VErtex, Sun/Moon-mp and Eros.

Since the nodal axis of the composite is doing a lot of that triggering, and Mars, which is ruling the South Node, and sits on the North Node, it seems that this is exactly the purpose of that connection, some experience we apparently should make (and failed to make the most of it in a past life, otherwise the South Node ruler would not be sitting on the North Node - it is like screaming: Get it right this time, for heaven`s sake!)


"Mercury-Neptune-Sappho conjunction is brilliant. With all that in the composite 11H, it figures that you meet so often in public gatherings based around plays."
Yes. Ther eis also a great emphasis on 5th and 11th house, as Jupiter is widely opposite as well.
actually there is a mutual reception of Mercury and Jupiter, with the ruler of 5th and 11th house interchanged, you can`t separate these, too.
Since the dispositor of all these 11th house planets is in Gemini in 5th house, that would probably the house where all that creative potential could be expressed.
It would function rather well as a creative friendship, too, and manifesting through or on the field of Jupiter in 5th house. It looks kinda nice, and a nice counterbalance to the rather intense emotional energies there. I mean Pluto in 8th house is no joke either!


However this Jupiter is most interesting, not only is it exactly quindecile Sun, but it is part of a quintile pattern.
Jupiter exactly quintile Saturn and both biquintile Venus, which means Venus is on the Jupiter/SAturn-mp (yes midpoints work even in composite, even though it is a midpoint chart already), so it is bringing the focus back to Venus. *sighs* No matter how you look at it, you always end up there.
Venus in 12th house, as ruler of 4th house, square Pluto in 8th house, as ruler of 10th house.

"Do you count the six degree orb between composite moon and Venus? Seems like you feel it so...."
I always wonder about that, too. Usually i prefer 3 degree orbs, but these two are so fused together there. lol

Also something else.

The midpoint of Moon and Venus is on 19 Capricorn.
The midpoint of Mars and Pluto is on 19 Libra.
(you cannot really miss this, can you? ).
Obviously Mars/Pluto is triggered by the nodal axis (and did I already mention the wide conjunction Pluto has to the NN. lol).
But squares do trigger midpoints as well, so it is also triggering the Moon-Venus.

Add to thta hat even though Moon is not square Pluto and Venus is not square Mars (unless very very widely), but Moon is tightly square Mars and Venus is tightly square Pluto. It seems like these complexes are somehow fused together, making a pattern.
So probably what I feel is the complex of Moon-Venus-Mars-Pluto fuelled by the nodal axis and of course Amor and Cupido.

And I feel it probably because of the composite Moon -Mars/NN falling onto my natal chart.

As for composite us, well it is opposite my natal Saturn as I said, which is not easy at all.
But interesting to note how my natal Saturn conjuncts his natal 5th house cusp, so actually his 5th-11th axis is related to that composite Venus. So it really brings out my Saturn on his 5th house cusp (orb is under one degree so it is exactly triggering it). And probably also the square of my 2nd house ruler Saturn in his 5th house to his 8th house ruler Pluto in his 7th house.

It feels like a frustrating brake probably, and it has to do with how I value myself or my fears in that regard (2nd house symbolism). I want a safety net, guarantees, and there aren´t any.
Of course Saturn has also some nicer implications.

But yeah, no matter what you do you end up with Saturn. lol
Actually Saturn even disposits our emotional planets in composite, and where does Mr Saturn sit? In Leo in 7th house. *Sighs*

"Dayum he looks like my friend Jim though, it's hysterical."
LOL

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posted November 06, 2013 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya Ceri!

"I like that and can relate to that. Well, my Venus does not trine Saturn, however it is in Capricorn, and my Juno trines Saturn, which is the tightest aspect in my chart.
Orb is 0°01."

That'll do it. Funny how I am always amazed by tight aspects, my eyes get all wide just looking at 0°01. It's like a perfect drawing...I <3 precision.

"Mr Sag also has an aspect between Juno and Saturn, his is a sextile with orb of 0°57. Still very tight."

My eyes are even wider now! LOL...no, seriously, they are.

"Both having Venus in Capricorn square Pluto and both having an exact harmonious aspect between Juno and Saturn. Both Junos are in watersigns incidently, too."

It is strange, in a happy-creepy way, especially considering the age difference.

"Yes. Which is an interesting thought actually, to see how third parties might experience or see a relationship between two people by the aspects of their natal chart to the composite."

I was thinking that, because my synastry with your and Mr. Sag's composite is so nice! My Vertex is most likely in the third decan of Sag, too...could be conjunct your suns. Your Angel-Lust is conjunct my NN...uh, don't know what that means except I get the drift? LOL

Looking at that composite, I just realized your composite Pallas is conjunct your moon. Do you think that's helping you spot all these patterns?

"Another examples is my friends composite with her twinflame, their composite Jupiter is conjunct my natal Venus exactly. I love them as a couple, it fills me with hope and optimism that love actually IS possible after all."

Oh that's sweet. The couples I love the most I either seldom see in person (like my brother and his wife) or I don't know the birthday of one of them (though I sense very strongly that my Sag friend's husband is a Taurus. They adore each other.)

"When I woke up this morning, I got TOTALLY nervous for some reason. It was surreal almost. But I was apparently remembering the latest pics he put up of him, and got a very clear visceral reminder of his energy... and I just thought that he was simply 'too much.' That I probably would spontaneously combust..."

Well it's a very *Jupiter* kinda romance so of course! =D

I DO understand catching the energy from a picture, in certain moods or under certain transits (or after drinking certain wines) I've gotten a very clear sense of people. Once I could have sworn that I had conjured up the spirit of Ralph Waldo Emerson by focusing on his picture so long, all kinds of details about him seemed to come alive in my mind, like how he smelled, moved, blinked, his tone of voice...lots of things. Sure it could have been my imagination but it seemed to be springing up in my brain automatically without me actually thinking.

"But I want to hear the story! Please? *puppy dog eyes* I promise I will not have any expectations at all!"

Oops! Miscommunication, I meant that I will try to not have high expectations of your rendezvous with Mr. Sag...then I assured you that even if you "only" astrally project with him, I will be giving YOU the puppy eyes asking for the story!

"Well, btw today the book 'How to rule the world from your couch' arrived, it seems interesting, and I love the title. Lol
And I sometimes blurt out with that stuff, too."

Oh, I'm happy you got the book! I love it. I think that's the one where she asks you to do a remote viewing of her apartment in Rome. Ceri, I'm not exaggerating when I say that my viewing was mostly accurate...I didn't see everything she talks about, but much of it. I was really astounded after doing that exercise, had to face the fact that I might have this ability after all.

"However so it is Moon and Venus going on behind closed doors."

Doesn't that sound romantic? Moon and Venus behind closed doors. Sounds like a romance novel title. =)

"BTW I was surprised how often I have found the Moon in 12th house in composite, sometimes even in Pisces and in square to Neptune, in relationships."

Interesting! All of it. Perhaps the moon takes on psychic abilities there that enhances a relationship with a level of supernatural understanding, or good timing, strange coincidences and such.

"Like people just don`t get how my friend and me can even be friends and for such a long time."

I hear you. Most of my friendships don't make any sense, either, actually...I don't have a single friend that I see in person who likes astrology, for instance. My best friend and I look nothing alike and have always dressed so differently that we turn heads when we go out (she probably turns the heads, actually, then people marvel she has such a conservative-looking friend with her.)

"As a matter of fact it probably helps them that they are different people, it is only because of that that they can really complement each other."

I see what you mean. Yeah, it's touching, for me, when people aren't obviously similar but get along great anyway. It shows people can find kindred spirits in the strangest places!

Not finished replying yet!

Oh but really quick first: I just looked up Anubis in my natal chart last night and it's conjunct my Jupiter-Echo in the 9H. What a riddle...I wonder how this translates into experience? "Oh if only I had a voice I could tell you that I astrally projected in a BIG WAY last night!"

LOL...well, it's funny, but that isn't too far from the truth. Some of my dreams, especially, feel like astral projection to me, but there's no way to prove it, and I don't like sounding totally flakey and dramatic (Jupiter and friends all square my Cap sun very tightly.)

ttyl =)

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Ugh I just wrote you a long reply and lost it! I forgot to sign in before typing it out, and then when I went to fill in my Username, I hit some button and everything vanished.

*cry*

I'm trying to think if I said anything really important...

I guess I was just giving you indicators that I was following along, amazed at all the patterns and amazed that you can find these things. I think I will be imitating you more when I look at charts, digging up midpoints and trying harder to see the meaning in everything.

Sorry this is short but I don't have the heart (nor the time) to re-type it all!

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Oh that sucks!
Happened to me, too.

Anyway I have to get back to this thread tomorrow, as i just returned from my advanced course, and it was very very interesting, and even though that was not the purpose of the course I learned something about myself, I am not sure I find it only positive, but it makes it neccessary for me to modify my Selfimage a little again.


But what you said, I try to see patterns. Which ironically was a basic ingredients of the course today, to detect patterns, true underlying reasons in a storyline. What`s it all about? So to speak.

In this way it fit my astrological approach, too. I guess.
However it is impotant to not get lost in detail. Every detail has to contribute to the Whole, the overall theme. If it doesn`t, it all frazzles out and no picture will emerge.

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Faith


"unny how I am always amazed by tight aspects, my eyes get all wide just looking at 0°01. It's like a perfect drawing...I <3 precision."
Yes, I love those! It is like you can literally FEEL how it is all orchestrated somehow.

I know my eyes nearly popped out of their sockets when I noticed how tightly his Draconic BML is conjunct my Draconic ASC.

his Dr BML: 26.51 Pisces
my Dr ASC: 26.51 Pisces


Wider aspects are also valid and important, of course, but this is just. I am still stunned seeing it. lol


The existence of these very tight aspects is so powerful, too, cause chances are the aspects will be present even in higher harmonics. Usually the aspects get wider and wider with every higher harmonic, but with my Juno-Saturn trine the orb will even in the 12th harmonic be jsut 9 minutes of orb. It resonates through all kind of harmonic levels. (the 12th harmonic would highlight every aspect that belongs to the 30° series - a refleciton of the zodiac, and I usually do not go beyond that, but for fun I looked at the 64th harmonic, and the aspect is STIL under one degree.

(not that the 64th harmonic really means that much too me; I feel above the 12th harmonics things get way too subtle to be clearly and consciously experienced)


"Your Angel-Lust is conjunct my NN...uh, don't know what that means except I get the drift? LOL"
LOL I like that, and do not forget our Valentine is there as well! So maybe it true love (and attraction) between you and our connection.


"Looking at that composite, I just realized your composite Pallas is conjunct your moon. Do you think that's helping you spot all these patterns?"
Curiously I just noticed that some weeks ago or so, and yes I think so.
IQ stated that the real telepathic aspect is Moon conjunct Pallas, and maybe that is one more reasons why I am so sensitive to it. Though it is the composites Pallas, not my own. So I guess it is more a thing of this spirtual openness in the relationship triggering my emotions.


"Well it's a very *Jupiter* kinda romance so of course! =D"
It totally is. And i like ti this way.

" I could have sworn that I had conjured up the spirit of Ralph Waldo Emerson by focusing on his picture so long, all kinds of details about him seemed to come alive in my mind, like how he smelled, moved, blinked, his tone of voice..."
LOL
And yes I know exactly what you mean.

"My best friend and I look nothing alike and have always dressed so differently that we turn heads when we go out (she probably turns the heads, actually, then people marvel she has such a conservative-looking friend with her.)"
You conservative?
Not your mind, I assure you


"Some of my dreams, especially, feel like astral projection to me, but there's no way to prove it, and I don't like sounding totally flakey and dramatic (Jupiter and friends all square my Cap sun very tightly.)"
Yes, but I know what yo mean. NOt all dreams are like this but some have a very distinct quality to them.
Sometimes I can notice it easily because the dreams feel like there is a certain sluggishness to them. Like the environment or situations I am dreaming of can`t relaly keep up with the frequency of my mind.

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