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IndigoDirae
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posted November 24, 2013 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need some help. I can't even believe I'm writing this. But I can't put it off anymore.

So, I've been researching a few topics rather religiously over a decade. Tonight, it seems I have enough to be seeing a picture snap into focus. Fast, too. So I'm just going to give you the sketch, and perhaps you can shed some very much needed light.

ATROPOS is making some very dynamic links here.

His is 3° ARI in his 4H.
It's in my 8H, parallel my 8C.
It's loosely conjunct his SATURN (11° ARI).
It's exactly parallel his SATURN, AMOR (22° PIS) and CHIRON (29° PIS) - and LEWISCARROLL (18° AQU) - which is conjunct my SNODE, incidentally.

My ATROPOS is 17° VIR in my 1H.
It's in his 9H.
It's parallel his, along with the other points.
It's parallel my 8H Priapus (20° ARI).
It's loosely conjunct MADHATTER (12° VIR 56') but cripes, I have to count it.

Synastrically:

Pattern 1.
His ATROPOS is conjunct my ANTEROS (in my 8H).
His ANTEROS is square my ATROPOS (exactly) and conjunct his MADHATTER-VALENTINE and my PSYCHE. (My ATROPOS-MADHATTER is conjunct his PSYCHE, too.)

But the one which really gets me is:

His SATURN-ATROPOS in my 8H, parallel his Chiron. (His ATROPOS is also opposing my SATURN @ 1° orb.)

Because his SATURN is exactly square my TISIPHONE (11° CAN) conjunct his 8H SUN (8° CAN 32).

TISIPHONE is so OOB in my chart at 32 N, she's not hitting anything.

Except his TISIPHONE, which is ALSO at 32 N.

It's @ 17° TAU, exactly conjunct my CHIRON, square my NODES (of which his LEWISCARROLL is on my SNODE). His CHIRON, incidentally, is exactly conjunct his IC.)

Our MEGAIRAS are also parallel, conjunct his VENUS-KARMA-ERATO, and conjunct our composite Sun. My MEGAIRA is in my 12H; it's parallel my PSYCHE and his EROS and PLUTO. I think that's starting to make sense to me now.

There are very strong 8H dynamics in his chart and our synastry (and, in mine, Scorpio). His PLUTO is his 12R, too. The SUN is mine.

His SUN and MERCURY are there.
His SUN, VALENTINE, MADHATTER, VERTEX and ANTEROS all parallel his 8C.
His ATROPOS, LEWISCARROLL, SATURN, and URANUS parallel mine.

His ATROPOS also is quindecile my SUN.
Our ATROPOSES are quindecile each other.
His TISIPHONE is quindecile my KARMA (which is conjunct his SNODE.)

His MADHATTER trines my SUN exactly and conjoins my PSYCHE. It semisextiles his TISIPHONE, sextiles mine.

My MADHATTER is conjunct his PSYCHE and my ATROPOS. It sextiles my TISIPHONE, trines his.

His MADHATTER is in Gemini, dispositing to his 8H MERCURY, which exactly squares my PLUTO, which conjoins his MARS (nearly exactly) and opposes his MOON (same).

It's all a veritable web of connexions. The prevailing themes involve the 8H, ATROPOS, SATURN, and make aspects to karma points, as well as personal ones.

More than anything, ATROPOS disposits to his MARS in Libra, which is very tightly involved with my SUN-PLUTO, and his MOON-EROS (in my 8H). Gah.

It's friggin' everywhere - and closely linked with his SATURN (in my 8H) and mine (in my 1H), and both of our CHIRONS.

I need objectivity. Because this is too much. I mean, I actually DO get it, and it's astonishingly logical. All of it. But I'm not ready to accept THAT kind of 'logic'.

So, any takers? Ceri? Help!

Oh, I forgot PLUTO.

His 12R, PLUTO, is conjunct my ATROPOS. 1°. And, as I said, his ATROPOS quindeciles my SUN - my 12R.

Okay. That's it.

... I'm done.

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Keela
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posted November 24, 2013 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm too tired on too little sleep to look at aspects right now, but I have to ask what the PL in the subject line suggests? Pluto?

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Ceridwen
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posted November 24, 2013 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Past life`?

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IndigoDirae
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posted November 24, 2013 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right, Ceri. Sorry, Keela. Yes. I was trying to save character-space.

And there's plenty I forgot. I'm not adding it in just now, though. But ASTRAEA is involved, too. His on my MOON-URANUS, exact, with his NEPTUNE trailing. Mine on my ALICE-AMOR, square my SUN-PLUTO, his MARS, trine his MADHATTER-VALENTINE, sextile his PLUTO-URANUS ...

Aaaaaand on it goes.

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IndigoDirae
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posted November 24, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All right, this will be my 'cork-board' of sorts. I'm going to attempt making some sense of this, now I have the charts in front of me - and it isn't early morning.

I decided to look at the Draco comparisons.

Hello, Draco ALGOL-PALLAS on 8C.

This just keeps getting worse and worse ... and worse.

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