posted January 06, 2014 04:50 PM            

I am preparing a case study of eight self-made multi-millionaires/billionaires, living and dead. If you've ever researched business and/or finance asteroids, you might share my frustration at the lack of data and interpretive analysis currently available for researchers. From this case study, I will begin constructing a catalogue of natal interpretations on these asteroids.

Would you be so kind as to indicate, by number, the asteroids you would prefer to learn about?

1. Midas
2. Gold
3. Silver
4. Banks
5. Golden
6. Mony
7. Tyche
8. Opportunity
9. Destiny
10. Fortuna

For example: 6, 10, 7, 2, 3, 8.

I would also appreciate it if you would share what you would find particularly compelling in reading such a case study. For example, what questions would you have if you were examining the charts of the self-made uber-wealthy?

posted January 07, 2014 01:36 PM            

Asteroid Destiny doesn't exists. Asteroid 6583 Destinn is named after Czech lady Emmy Destinn, whose stage name has nothing to do with English word "destiny".

posted January 07, 2014 02:54 PM              

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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
1, 7, 10, 2, 3

Asteroid Destiny doesn't exists. Asteroid 6583 Destinn is named after Czech lady Emmy Destinn, whose stage name has nothing to do with English word "destiny".

I would certainly look at Saturn, Venus, Jupiter, MC, as well as asteroids in conjunction with Sun, MC, SN and NN.

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If you apply those rules then no asteroids should be used in natal astrological interpretation.

They work off the concept of synchronicity. The actual origin of the asteroid's name doesn't matter, because they tend to wind up in eerily accurate places in the chart anyway that correspond to their general, conventional meanings.

posted January 07, 2014 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
If you apply those rules then no asteroids should be used in natal astrological interpretation. .

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Yes, but...
Midas=king who turn everything he touched into gold
Fortuna/Tyche=goddess of luck
Gold=gold
Silver=silver
Destinn=?
What is general, conventional meaning of destinn in English (or any other language)?

posted January 07, 2014 06:03 PM              

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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
Yes, but...
Midas=king who turn everything he touched into gold
Fortuna/Tyche=goddess of luck
Gold=gold
Silver=silver
Destinn=?
What is general, conventional meaning of destinn in English (or any other language)?

Also, why not to use asteroids 29185 Reich (German for rich, wealthy), 18462 Ricco (Italian for rich), and many others?
The possibilities are endless.
I don't have time to argue, but I wanted to point to the fact that word destinn has no meaning (at least in English). If that is irrelevant for astrology, OK.

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I can see why destiny was brought up - whether or not an extreme level of financial success, is a part of your destiny.

Etmology (sp?) and the actual real basis for the name of the asteroid - again, doesn't apply to this. To give an example - say an asteroid is named after a random woman you've never met in your life who lived and died long before you were born - but your mother shares that same first name. You plug in the numbers for this asteroid in your chart and you find out that the asteroid conjuncts your moon.

That is the sort of thing that happens all the time with the asteroids, and that's the point of using them in natal interpretation. Again, the actual origin of the words, or who the asteroid was named after, doesn't really matter because that's not how they're used in astrology. Asteroid astrology operates entirely off of synchronicity.

As far as why not use the other asteroids - no one said these asteroids alone are the only ones that apply to wealth. The OP just chose these particular asteroids on their own. If you want to use the ones you mentioned, by all means you could. Asteroid astrology doesn't really have the hard fast rules of planetary natal astrology, because it's kind of a fringe thing - in fact, a lot of astrologers don't use asteroids at all, or very sparingly, in their chart analysis.

posted January 08, 2014 01:29 PM              

Again do a search on LL for further info on asteroids. The reading and research needs to be your first step - as there is a great deal out there for your information.

posted January 08, 2014 02:02 PM            

You're are absolutely right about the importance of reading up before investigating. I am only in the preliminary phase of constructing the parameters of my research.

posted January 08, 2014 06:38 PM            

Hi, I'm curious if this research is for personal study or affiliated with a research organization.

Would you be able to share research parameters so that others wishing to pursue a specific study in astrology can make use of your wisdom.

How exactly is a research study set up and followed to be in alignment with acceptable and credible methods, specifically for astrology, that aligns with scientific community?

For instance, what kind of documentation is needed, how many case studies, how to you investigate the one aspect that is exactly the same for most of the charts but does not match up for a few? Nobody really looks at the aspects that don't match up - they just cluster the ones that do and assume that it is factual for everyone.

How do you gather data that is from reliable source? etc. Many people are willing to participate in studies but do not want to reveal their names linking with their birth data. Or they don't see themselves clearly to begin with.

With your current study it is obvious where to get data base. But what about other studies that you have a hunch about with several charts, but need to research hundreds or thousands?

posted January 08, 2014 07:30 PM            

One idea is for you to look up the asteroid numbers for the list 1 through 10 you asked about. Then make a chain of the numbers at the bottom of your list so that people here could copy-paste the list for themselves at their astro.com accounts (or serennu).

Astro keen gave you some good links!--

There have been lots of astrology articles written on this topic. You may wish to use a search engine and find a few to get the basic principles down.

The Mountain Astrologer magazine may have archived some articles on financial astrology....

(I did a quick search... lots of astrology material IS out there. Roll up your sleeves and start digging! )

SAMPLES FOR YOU---

You can use the search categories at astro.com (astrodienst) and astrowiki link there.

Search for charts of people you know achieved this already, then use links provided from the astrowiki category you'd want.

Here's an "example" shortcut for you-- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Gates,_Bill

If you scroll to the bottom of ^that page, you'll see categories that will link you to Astro-databank lists.
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Category:Lifestyle_:_Financial_:_Wealthy

Go ahead and poke around a bit.... Become acquainted with how they file and organize the chart categories. (It's still being added to and built!) They recently began to add links to event-transits for the charts now!

On the Astro-databank home page, you can take a tutorial on how to conduct searches on their site. They are still tweaking pages there..... I think what they're doing is of tremendous benefit for people who want to research charts. They have expanded so much in the past few years. I look forward with great anticipation to see how more sophisticated it will become in the years ahead.

With all the "asteroids" you are collecting, you could plug them in to charts you'd collect on the astro.com account.

markandrewholmes has list of asteroids you may want to read through...

posted January 09, 2014 12:58 AM            

Hear the word of Lachesis, the daughter of Necessity. Mortal souls, behold a new cycle of life and mortality. Your genius will not be allotted to you, but you will choose your genius; and let those who draw the first lot, have the first choice and the life, which they choose, shall be their destiny. Virtue is free, and as a human honours or dishonours Virtue they will have more or less of her; the responsibility is with the chooser—God is justified.

posted January 09, 2014 11:52 PM            

@PlutoSurvivor - I'm just a curious researcher with no affiliations, but this is the type of study I would love to read myself. If it's out there, I haven't been able to find it yet. If you know of a person who would be willing to contribute their birth info anonymously, I would be very appreciative and that would give all of us another chart to study.

Further to this, I would love to see more natal interpretations from a business perspective and business/finance astrology is not widely seen in the mainstream yet.

I see several business applications for astrology and want to contribute so that more information from this perspective is readily available. My professional background is in organizational learning and development and I see practical applications for human resources, strategic business planning, career planning, enterpreneurial development, and more.

There is a scholarly paper that you can google, if you're interested, entitled, "From Paradigm to Method in Astrological Research". The author basically explains that astrological theory is discounted by modern mainstream science because those critics are seeking qualitative metrics. Without going into depth here, it's a good piece that talks about astrological methodology.

For source, I prefer Astrodatabank because of the Rodden ratings.

@summerlite and @gabby: thank you for adding new asteroids that I hadn't yet considered!

@mirage29: Thanks for your encouraging words! Mountain Astrologer is an excellent idea - my subscription ran out a few years ago while I was living overseas. Thanks for your fine suggestions and links. I have lots of fascinating reading ahead as my research materials begin to manifest and accumulate.

posted January 10, 2014 12:42 AM            

It was named for Ops, the Roman goddess of abundance and wife of Saturn; her Greek counterpart was Rhea. Her name, which literally meant abundance, was related to the Latin word opus (work).

Henk Middleraad links asteroid Ops to military operations. It may also refer to business operations or operations in general, or possibly abundance.
http://markandrewholmes.com/ops.html