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IndigoDirae
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posted January 12, 2014 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any idea how this plays out? It's in his 10H natally, but not conjunct his MC. It's also conjunct my SUN-PLUTO.

I'm definitely a 'Lilith' figure.

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posted January 12, 2014 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL
If we are talking about True Lilith, Jude Law has it,t oo. In scorpio. in 12th house.

What it means?
No freaking clue. Well something comes to mind, but I might be totally wrong.

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posted January 12, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The asteroid, actually, Ceri. However, he does have his BML (mean) opposite MARS - and conjunct his MOON-NYMPHE. 5H. Ay, yi, yi.

I wonder how different it is from BML. Or if the opposition is also rather valid, or similar. It's all exact or within 1°.

When he doubled for him on AI, he shared a few stories indicating that he's quite a swell, down-to-earth guy. And he brought him tea, understanding an Englishman without his tea is just a senseless crime.

MH parallel SUN, of course.

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posted January 12, 2014 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

When he doubled for him on AI, he shared a few stories indicating that he's quite a swell, down-to-earth guy. And he brought him tea, understanding an Englishman without his tea is just a senseless crime.


How sweet!

But yes, I got the feeling recently, he IS a very down-to-earth guy and actually quite bemused about all the fan-admiration he attracts. Like he can`t really grasp the concept. OR maybe it is me who cannot really grasp the concept of fans pretty much mobbing their favourite star.
What the...? What is the sense in that?


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posted January 12, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
How sweet!

But yes, I got the feeling recently, he IS a very down-to-earth guy and actually quite bemused about all the fan-admiration he attracts. Like he can`t really grasp the concept. OR maybe it is me who cannot really grasp the concept of fans pretty much mobbing their favourite star.
What the...? What is the sense in that?


I don't get it, either, honestly. People tend to be shocked at my blasé attitude regarding celebrities. Maybe because I've had my own taste of things there, and it cemented my opinion that privacy is SO important. I'd hate to be so mobbed. Hell, I'm not always wild about the attention I DO get. So, I'd never do that to someone else. Ugh. Why? I'm with you.

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posted January 12, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have actually been thinking about that a lot, trying to figure out if I am being hypocritical.
But I DO see it a difference in shortly letting someone know what I enjoyed about their performance (only if the opportunity arises), and pressuring someone into taking a photo and giving autographs. I don`t know I find this silly to be honest. What value does a staged photo has? Or an autograph? It is just a name. I mean I KNOW his name for Gods sake! He does not have to write it down for me!


no, of course I did NOT try to speak to him after the show. In my perception the man had given a tremendous lot into his performance and deserved his free time and being left alone after.

I mean, on the last day i was there (1st row), there was a young woman sitting beside me, and she nearly climbed onto my seat (leaning into me so much), just to gain his attention. D `oh!

What worth is getting someones attention, by wiggling around such a lot,s o they HAVE to notice you? You are forcing them to notice you, what good is that?
Besides the guy was WORKING up there. Show a little respect!


But yeah, maybe I AM hypocritical, cause of course I enjoyed the fact being on the receiving end of some glances, during the show and at the bows.

But it always feels strange seeing him. I Tell myself I should be all giddy and nervous like all the others and it should feel surreal and glamourous because of the celebrity status.
and to me he is just Jude. I donT`know him of course, and yet it feels natural seeing him on stage. And I am often in admiration of his skill to portray these characters, but I am not really in awe of the "star".
I do not even really grasp the meaning of it.

Star or not, we are all human beings, right?
And in his case it is even worse, as he feels so familiar. It is a little creepy actually, but then again, I once noticed, seeing old pictures in our photoalbum, that apparently thre are some genetic traits that his family must share with my family, especially in terms of facial bone structure.
Maybe that is all the reason he feels familiar.

I am babbling agian. Why does noone ever stop me doing that?

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posted January 12, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kinda like when Evan Rachel was hanging out through these double doors waiting to leave with her mom, as I presume they were going to lunch. (The kiddo had starred in one of their short films, and we were there for the premiere; Evan's mom directed.)

I really wanted to go and say hi, because I love her work - especially in Across The Universe, (she inspired me to cover 'If I Fell') and Thirteen - but I'm not going to excuse myself from standing by while he was chatting with her mom, and make a bee-line. I don't even have a current card, for chrissake. Who am I? Honestly?

Now, I'll do that for a C or D-lister, and have rather built an impressive network that way. They hate working with an agent and will go direct if they can.

But Evan? The woman's worked with big names. Who cares if I like her work? Can I pay her salary to do a film? Hell-to-the-no. My actors are working for me because they love my work - and damn, am I fortunate.

Until I'm someone who can pay their asking, I'm not even going to bother. Now, if I bump into them (which has happened) I'll certainly shake their hand and say I love their work - if I do. Take Brian Krause, for example. He second-starred in a show that I'd ASM'ed its first time around; poor guy was practically green when he came out after the final show, and the producer introduced us - since I was there with the original cast for the closing show. I kept telling him to go, because he was clearly going to be ill - and had to go to Sydney for an awards show the next day. But he was very gracious ... and kind of chatting me up. (Least that's what the former leading lady had said, heh!) I'll never know - and I was involved. But, hey. That could've been fun. He's got a great personality, and everyone loved working with him, so we connected on LinkedIn, and if I have a role for him (and can pay his price!) then, it was a good move.

Outside of that, I kinda made a fool of myself in front of Anna Paquin. I'd never seen True Blood. I think I said I loved her Rogue. Ohh, awkward. Our stepdaughters were in the same theatrical company, so we fortunately got to chatting about them instead. Stephen just chuckled. I keep wanting to run into them again and say, 'so, I saw True Blood. Great work!'

Yeah. Only 4 years later. D'oh!

Honestly, the ones I go a little crazy and star-struck over are the creators. When my favourite producing team (outside of Ron Moore and David Eicke) sought me out to show interest in my work, I was ... speechless! We're Facebook friends, and send birthday wishes and all that jazz, and it's like ... pinch me!

I dunno what I'd do if I ran into Vince Gilligan. I'd HAVE to shake his hand, hold it, look right in his eye and say, 'sir, your freshman series was absolutely flawless. I have learnt more from your work on The X-Files than the courses I took in screenwriting. You are honestly kind of my hero. Please, don't ever stop. We need your kind of talent.'

But that's a pipe dream. And maybe he'd shout, 'security!'. Who knows? My Sun/Pluto=Venus/Mars has been surprisingly charismatic ... for a nobody.

Ahhh. We can dream.

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posted January 12, 2014 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh! Ceri. Last quarter of last year, I've no clue why, but I was constantly being barraged with 'past life' stuff. Every other dream featured several previous incarnations of people close to me.

This only happened once, but I came to realise how this one gentleman who had a soul-recognition experience the moment he met me (he was in that show), and I were connected. First off, we have an exact SUN-NNODE conjunction. Yeah. THAT one didn't escape me! But he kinda did.

We met the month I came to LA. Both had an intense attraction, but there was something so star-studded and out-of-my-league about him. From NY, LA actor ... at that point, I'm thinking, 'me? You're paying attention to me?' The nobody from Dallas who's fallen into this gig as ASM? ME? But then I'd think - wait, huh? Why am I thinking that? I certainly hold my own - regardless of what rung I'm on. But he made me all jittery and fluttery and ... well ... starstruck. Crazy! I wasn't that way when I met Shatner. Friggin' Captain Kirk, and I was all, 'so, reading a Trek novel, huh? Couldn't resist?' I will even SNARK with celebs. Starstruck? Me?

So, we lost touch, I think save for Facebook. But neither of us kept up with each other. I auditioned him before I started having open auditions a few months later - but I wasn't blown away. Ah, well.

A few years later, we crossed paths totally unexpectedly, and this time, he was pretty ardent. And, honestly, I liked the attention .... And the flustred, blushing reaction I can't help but give. Heh!

And that SUN-NNODE. Exact. Exact!

I kept thinking, oh, lord, I don't know what's going on here, but I know it's significant. This is the third time the Universe said 'keep up with this one'. So ... fine!

Then, after we'd started growing closer and talking more often, he appeared in my dream. That's actually very rare. Very. The fact my Hatter'd been appearing constantly is unheard of.

In the dream, I was waiting in a theatre, dressed nicely and seated next to my sister-in-law, oddly enough. She'd said how the film was delayed, so we were just ... waiting. Then he texts me saying how he's caught in traffic and will be there soon. It's clear we're dating, and he's the star of the feature which is premiering. It's a red carpet event - and I'm saving his seat.

Weird.

So, I told him about it the next day and he said that sounds completely legit to him, given how immediately he was drawn to me, and, damn, if only he could be that famous here? ;p

And that ... has put me in a quandary.

We have amazing on-screen chemistry, but it's of that kind where I can't stop blushing! Hah. Different from the kind I have with my Hatter, which is more smoldering. It almost makes people uncomfortable, it's so potent. Heh!

And, he IS a fantastic actor - the Leo. But he wasn't my first choice. Aaaaand I don't want to be a total Hollywood cliché, being personally involved with my leads. Agh!

I also am nervous about casting the actor who is my (current) first choice. He was the lead in the show on which we met. I can only imagine how he'd be all, 'HIM? AGAIN?' And now it's MY casting, so ... if I AM supposed to help his career ... augh!

Anyway. That's my current dilemma.

I know. I know. Quit ******** , Indigo. Poor you. Can't decide which hot actor to cast and if it's a conflict of interest because you're personally involved.

It sounds ridiculous even to me!

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