posted January 15, 2014 06:02 PM            

I also think it depends upon the asteroid; I'll give wider berth to asteroids 1 through 4 (Ceres, Pallas, Juno, and Vesta) because they are female energy, are fairly large, and were discovered 200 years ago or so.

posted January 15, 2014 09:03 PM            

moving this to Asteroid Astrology

posted January 16, 2014 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
I use a 3 degree orb for my conjunctions but that's the widest I use. However, if you see a lot of conjunctions and are picking up on a theme, I know people would also consider a 4 degree orb but usually three is the max even for conjunctions.

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Same here. If there's a clear theme or configuration, I'll widen, but never really more than 5°. That's REALLY wide. I'll only allow it if it's very clearly active and throwing other aspects.

Sometimes a parallel or contraparallel will also incite me to widen my orbs. But, again. Not by much.

posted January 16, 2014 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
I think you're treading on thin ice to consider anything much more than 0 or 1 *most* of the time, even with conjunctions. Occasionally, I'll go as wide as 2 or 3, but only if I'm seeing patterns that otherwise wouldn't be there.

I also think it depends upon the asteroid; I'll give wider berth to asteroids 1 through 4 (Ceres, Pallas, Juno, and Vesta) because they are female energy, are fairly large, and were discovered 200 years ago or so.

But what do I know? I'm mostly a neophyte.

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posted January 17, 2014 01:03 AM            

For example, BML@ 20°, MOON @ 22°, NYMPHE @ 24° ARI.

Then PRIAPUS @ 20°.

Since BML and PRIAPUS are exact, this is a strong aspect. Being connected to a major luminary (MOON), very active. Then NYMPHE sits between them, 2° on either side.

But the big question is: of the asteroid and the luminary, what's making an aspect to the calculated point - if anything?

If the NYMPHE were hanging out in the breeze, I'd not link it to PRIAPUS. 4°? For asteroids, we like 2° at most, and, if we can keep the calculated points to 1.5° - so much the better, but 2° suffices.

But luminaries carry a LOT of weight.

With MOON there, NYMPHE and BML both take on a stronger presence.

Since BML and PRIAPUS are thematically linked, to have an aspect between them increases that weight. And it's exact, so, we may have the beginnings of a configuration. We certainly have a stellium.

Ergo, why I'd never typically accept a conjunction from a mathematically calculated point to an asteroid of 4°, this IS a stellium - WITH a luminary.

For that reason, I'll accept the conjunction - arguably very wide - of another calculated point.

I'll therefore take:

MOON conjunct BML (natal, 2°)
MOON conjunct NYMPHE (natal, 2°)
BML conjunct PRIAPUS (synastry, 0°)
MOON conjunct PRIAPUS (synastry, 2°)
NYMPHE conjunct PRIAPUS (synastry, 4°)

posted January 17, 2014 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh, if it's there - you'll feel it.

For example, BML@ 20°, MOON @ 22°, NYMPHE @ 24° ARI.

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posted January 17, 2014 01:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yours is a special case, as Moon is on the exact midpoint of BML/Nymphe.

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... I knew that. Really, I did. I knew that.

(Totally missed that.)

Do you consider my PRIAPUS to be on his NYMPHE, though, or too wide? I swear it seems that I can feel that. The themes make sense. His being playful and sexually liberated brings out my desire to surrender to my wilder, less inhibited 'shadow side'. The part of me which is afraid to, but secretly longs, to be so free-spirited.

What to do you think?

Also, since it's in Aries, it disposits to his MARS, which then conjoins his LILITH - and my BML-PLUTO.

posted January 17, 2014 07:17 AM            

There might be a resonance, but for me personally it is still a tad too wide.
But of course it is different than if it was an isolated aspect, and we do have the midpoint configuring into this.

So it is probably still in aspect, though it might be more subtle than it would be if it was exactly configured with your Priapus.

I do think however you have so much going on pointing to surrendering, that it is just another thing adding to it anyway.

posted January 17, 2014 07:21 AM            

For me Nymphe is on 2 Capricorn conjunct Vesta. ROFL
Configured with Stonehenge, Knight, Tristan, Boda, Eva and some more.
Trine his Vesta exact.
And on the antiscion (and widely conj.) his Moon.

posted January 18, 2014 01:14 PM            

Postesd this in a new topic:
Wich person is more affected by conj - the planet or the asteroid person?

And besides,there is (probably) unrequited love in a special syn: what would this conj indicate:

Pluto/NN conj Destiny (2°)
Union conj Sun (3°)
Vesta conj Moon (2°)
Venus conj Juno (0°)
Sun conj Psyche (3°)
Destiny conj Amor DW (1°)

(Left is female,in love)..and there is so much more!

posted January 18, 2014 02:40 PM            

I normally don't pay attention to asteroids that are more than about 2 degrees conjunct, but I'm starting to notice some patterns that might require looser orbs, and I've started to take other aspects into consideration.

For example: My mom's Karma is about 2-3 degrees from my Vertex. My Karma is about 5-6 degrees from her Vertex.

I normally wouldn't pay much mind to that, but it seems oddly coincidental, so I'm starting to.

Also, there was someone whose Chiron was about 4 degrees from my Jupiter, and my Chiron was about 4 degrees from his Mercury.
My Karma conjunct his Moon and MC by 1 degree, so I see a sort of pattern.

I think I'll be counting more of these wide orbs, as I think we do tend to feel them if there's other stuff going on in the synastry.

posted January 18, 2014 02:44 PM            

As on the one hand I can follow the reasoning and especially when there are midpoint pictures in it, it might be very valid.

On the other hand it might also lead us to counting just anything, and it all becomes arbitrary.

As a matter of fact I have always found the closest aspect to be the most descriptive. Maybe cause they are existent in all harmonics.