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IndigoDirae
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posted January 16, 2014 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm guessing it's DIANA internalised. Anyone know for a fact? I could certainly see how I internalise my intense emotions - essentially behaving with a strong DIANA, but inwardly.

What's your experience?

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posted January 16, 2014 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diana is protection, either enough or too much, depending on how it's aspected. Does it hit anything in your chart?

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IndigoDirae
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posted January 16, 2014 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She's OOB and parallel VALENTINE. I found that interesting. In my 8H, right on its edge, nearly into the 9H. Otherwise, she's trine my ASC and 12H VENUS, 1° on both. She's also opposite my DESTINN, and loosely, my EROS.

She's also sitting on my far SUN/MOON (7° TAU) but that's wide. (2°).

I noticed she hits someone's PRIAPUS dead-on through opposition. It's all in my 3H / 8H. (It trines his 8H SUN, too.)

How do you think that might play out? TAU (DIANA) and SCO. I've an idea, but I'd love your initial insight.

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posted January 16, 2014 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is 2 degrees wide? For Sun/Moon midpoint, I'd definitely count it as meaningful. I know you've spoken of your ability to walk away from relationships as Lilith-like, but I think it applies to Diana as well. As for the Priapus opposition with your co-star, it sounds to me like it might contribute to the condition of stalemate between you.

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IndigoDirae
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posted January 16, 2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, page one.

The stalemate, as you put it, is a weird one.

I'll speculate my 8H DIANA may contribute to my innate internalisation in regards to intimacy - especially sexual. I shut down immediately when my emotional security is threatened, especially regarding sexual intimacy. It's like a kill-switch. Sometimes I can't flip it back into the ON position - even after the threat has passed.

The fact it hits his PRIAPUS is definitely interesting to me. How would you read that?

If I'm honest, I'd say his own DIANA, (10° ARIES) while only semisextiling mine, is conjunct his SATURN, and that 'steely' resolve and coldness is definitely pervasive. He sends the message very clearly that he's self-sufficient, in total control and doesn't need you - for anything - ever.

Maybe I do this, too. I thought it was BML, but, who can say? Put that together ... and you certainly have a sense of 'we don't need each other'.

But we do. We're just loath to admit it.

What are your thoughts?

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IndigoDirae
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posted January 16, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, wow. Quick addendum:

I just noticed how his DIANA is just into my 8H, too - and parallel my PLUTO. The hell's that about?

That means - while not conjunct, but semisextile - mine is almost cusping my 9H, and his, almost cusping my 7H. But they're both in my 8H.

His DIANA is natally in the 4H - conjunct SATURN, 1°. It's parallel his MOON and BML. Wow. Shouldn't be surprised, as they're all Aries.

His locked-down, sexually-anorexic, intimately-incapable personality came from withstanding a very rough childhood, to say the least. Since he's been saddled with caring for his mother since age 25, he's lived the last 20 years of his life in this stifling, obligated, dutiful - joyless - environment. His words - not mine.

It ... breaks my heart. I try and show him joy. I try and help him feel loved - and maybe, someday, accept the feeling. Feel he deserves it. I learnt Stevie Nicks' 'Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You?' this holiday season, because it really conveys everything I wish I could say myself. But, as you can surmise, I have my own issues with emotional expression. (DIANA is also 5° opposite my MERCURY. I hesitate with that; it's MERCURY. Do we widen it? Does it count?)

Anyway, I think you're bang-on about DIANA being at work here in regards to our reticence, yet intense bonding. Deep emotions, but then so much fear.

But then how do you even overcome that?

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posted January 16, 2014 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Thanks, page one.

The stalemate, as you put it, is a weird one.

I'll speculate my 8H DIANA may contribute to my innate internalisation in regards to intimacy - especially sexual. I shut down immediately when my emotional security is threatened, especially regarding sexual intimacy. It's like a kill-switch. Sometimes I can't flip it back into the ON position - even after the threat has passed.

The fact it hits his PRIAPUS is definitely interesting to me. How would you read that?

If I'm honest, I'd say his own DIANA, (10° ARIES) while only semisextiling mine, is conjunct his SATURN, and that 'steely' resolve and coldness is definitely pervasive. He sends the message very clearly that he's self-sufficient, in total control and doesn't need you - for anything - ever.

Maybe I do this, too. I thought it was BML, but, who can say? Put that together ... and you certainly have a sense of 'we don't need each other'.

But we do. We're just loath to admit it.

What are your thoughts?


My first thought is that his Moon/Mars opposition couldn't be more literally manifested. God!

My second is that the very nature of an opposition natally and in synastry tends to be reactive, and the kill switch you speak of is probably definitely being turned on by that moon stellium of his. The situation seems "karmic" as in frustrating, and as in so many of these scenarios, I'm not seeing a resolution. Like you said, the two of you want, but somehow you cannot make yourselves act. It's very dramatic, but it doesn't look very fruitful. Not in the way you wish.


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