posted January 16, 2014 11:51 PM            

Also, Karma opposite Pluto in synastry?

I have this with someone (I'm the Pluto), and they also have Karma square Pluto in their natal.

posted January 17, 2014 08:45 AM            

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posted January 17, 2014 10:13 AM            

Ermm...I am talking about my son, who I can guarantee will never suffer any type of abuse at my hands (and I am fiercely protective of).

But...I do want to understand.
If a person's Karma asteroid makes an aspect to someone else's planet or point, it's the planet person who has the negative karma?
Is it always negative with Pluto?

posted January 17, 2014 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
the karma is negative only if the aspect is negative, in your case its a square and an opposition, hence IQ reference to it as negative karma

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Hm... Thank you for that, Orange. I suppose that was probably a little bit of a "derp" on my part, but I still am unsure of who has the negative karma (or experience, if you don't believe in karma), the planet or the Karma person in synastry?

posted January 17, 2014 06:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Also, he has Karma square Pluto in his natal. Anyone have additional insights into that?

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posted January 17, 2014 07:21 PM            

I have a really difficult time interpreting the asteroids, so I'm kind of glad I've started hanging out here a little.

Because... We both have Pluto square Saturn in natal, and his Saturn is conjunct my Pluto, and square my Saturn.

We both have our NN in each other's 5th house, and my NN is conjunct his Vertex in his 5th (my 4th).

So it seems like we have to bring childhood/family to each other, for some reason. With apparent power struggles between us, I guess. But that happens with kids and parents, I think. Sometimes.

Thanks so much for responding, ladies. I really appreciate your input.

posted January 17, 2014 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Maybe his Pluto, or tearing apart and rebuilding to make himself healthier and better at his core will be the help he needs to block his negative karma from manifesting!

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It's funny that you say that, because what just popped into my head is that he is CONSTANTLY taking things apart. He's not quite three years old, and his major fixation is on deconstructing everything that he can, haha.
Whether it's the wheels on his cars, a pen that he finds on the table, or whatever it is. He wants to take it apart and see how it works.

Maybe he'll be that way with his internal self as well...? Hmm.

We do a lot of spiritual things together.
I listen to Hindu mantras and smudge the house with him, let him play with my crystals and my purple disk, etc.

Maybe that's what I get to give to him in this life.

posted January 17, 2014 07:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:

For example, my Karma conjuncts His Moon at 2 degree orb, and squares his Venus and his Pluto at 0 degree. His Karma makes no aspect to my chart except a square to my Chiron at 0 degree.

Aah! What do you think?

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Wow, that's some serious karma action going on there!
I'll have to think on that one, but it does seem like it has to do with powerful emotions and love, doesn't it? Wow.

posted January 17, 2014 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
It's funny that you say that, because what just popped into my head is that he is CONSTANTLY taking things apart. He's not quite three years old, and his major fixation is on deconstructing everything that he can, haha.
Whether it's the wheels on his cars, a pen that he finds on the table, or whatever it is. He wants to take it apart and see how it works.

Maybe he'll be that way with his internal self as well...? Hmm.

We do a lot of spiritual things together.
I listen to Hindu mantras and smudge the house with him, let him play with my crystals and my purple disk, etc.

Maybe that's what I get to give to him in this life.

But then, with mutual NN in 5th in each other's charts, I also do a lot of playing with him, letting him run around the house, giving piggy back rides, playing pretend with him with his cars, etc. His Neptune is conjunct my Pisces Sun, so I suppose it's my area of expertise.

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It sounds like your giving him a great foundation to break whatever patterns he has from past lives that are not the best or most productive! He's already working on it!

To add to what iQ said, maybe in a past life you were to protective and obsessively "care taking" for him...and it hindered his personal development because he came to rely on you instead of learning lessons on his own?
Be aware of that and make sure to give him plenty of room to grow on his own with your support and love as a foundation to grow from not become dependent on!

Just a thought...obsessive Pluto sometimes inhibits people's freedom and growth by being to controlling, I wonder if that's why you share these aspects between your charts?

posted January 17, 2014 09:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
It sounds like your giving him a great foundation to break whatever patterns he has from past lives that are not the best or most productive! He's already working on it!

To add to what iQ said, maybe in a past life you were to protective and obsessively "care taking" for him...and it hindered his personal development because he came to rely on you instead of learning lessons on his own?
Be aware of that and make sure to give him plenty of room to grow on his own with your support and love as a foundation to grow from not become dependent on!

Just a thought...obsessive Pluto sometimes inhibits people's freedom and growth by being to controlling, I wonder if that's why you share these aspects between your charts?

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I wonder a lot about that as well. I AM really controlling with him, in an overly protective way. I don't mean to hinder him, and so I try really hard to just let him do his thing. But it's a major challenge for me to not hover over him while he plays with other kids, making sure that he's sharing and that none of the other kids are being mean to him or vice versa, etc.

Now that I think of it, his Pluto is also opposite my Saturn, in addition to his Saturn being conjunct my Pluto and square my Saturn.

So I do sort of tend to want to keep him so safe that I probably hold him back a little bit. I guess that's my lesson to learn with him... That will be a hard one. I'm overly protective with the people I love the most.

posted January 17, 2014 11:32 PM            

Interesting...I was just thinking of my NN conjunct his Vertex in Sag, one of the most free-spirited/altruistic, "come as you are" signs there is.

I suppose there it is, in a broad sense. I may not know the details of it, but Sag is very good about giving others personal space.

It sucks that both my Sun and Moon are square my NN, though.

posted January 18, 2014 12:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
NN in saggy?
You just called it...your life path towards enlightenment means walking the road of the light hearted, give everyone room to move Saggitarius!
That's awesome! But ya your sun square it shows your egos has gotten in the way of your spritual growth in the past!
But your already seeing it and wanting it to be different, that's awesome!

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Aw, thanks. Yes, it's my Sun AND Moon in opposition to my NN/Neptune in Sag, forming a nice, tight T-Square (or Grand Cross, if you count in my SN). It's been really helpful to encounter in-laws who make important contacts with my NN, or I make important contacts with theirs.