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Ami Anne
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posted January 17, 2014 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hekate is Asteroid Number 100. That is a cool clean number for an asteroid that obscures ourselves. I know you have seen a person who thinks she is the exact opposite of who she really is. The real shine out under the fake, superficial exterior. The mask runs only skin deep. Under the mask, is some form of a cesspool. Before I go on, let me say that we all refuse to face certain parts of ourselves.

For some people, it is lust. For others, it is anger. For others, it is jealousy. For others, it is fear. The possibilities are endless, as you can see. Once again, the chart comes to the rescue.Locate your Hekate. See what it touches. That will be what you do not want to face in yourself. The funny thing is that most people can see it in you. *Sigh* Life can be a major bummer.

I am asking for your reports about the Hekate in your charts because that way, we all can learn. I could never do enough charts to figure out the practical workings of all the asteroids. I don’t think an Astrologer could even master all the asteroids. It is a land of adventure waiting for exploration. That is what I like to do with you, so I eagerly await your Hekate information!

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posted January 17, 2014 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st house-
Venus libra@19.02
Hecate libra@24.21--Chiron aries@24.14
Apophis libra@25.02--Asmodeus aries@25.41
Anti-Vertex libra@26.02

Thought this might be important...
Aura cancer@27

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posted January 18, 2014 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for loffra180     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Hekate is at 10 Leo in my 10th house. The aspects involved with it are listed below:

Hekate conj. MC at 10 Leo
Hekate quincunx Uranus, Uranus is at 11 Cap in my 3rd house
Hekate parallel Jupiter, Jupiter is at 7 Leo in my 9th house
Hekate parallel MC
Hekate contraparallel IC, which is at 10 Aquarius

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posted January 18, 2014 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't face that I'm a philandering rapist, apparently.

19° VIR, 1H. Conjunct ZEUS (h42). Semisextile my SUN. Meh.

It's parallel PLUTO, which is also conjunct my SUN and BML. 2H. That seems a bit more indicative of things.

Achieving a real sense of self worth has been a major challenge in my life. In many ways, I've had to vacillate between coming off as an egomaniac or being a doormat. I've certainly been unable to integrate my personal power for many years. Not until after my first Saturn Return did I decide enough was enough there.

ZEUS is also parallel my PRIAPUS.

Ahhhhh!

I DO become suddenly indulgent and rather conceited when it comes to satisfying my sexual / intimate desires. So much so, to the point that I'll be completely ascetic, denying them completely.

Huh.

It's also parallel my 8H. And ATROPOS.

I DO have an extreme gusto when it comes to 8H matters, but I keep them from becoming personalised.

How interesting.

Someone's HEKATE is conjunct his TISIPHONE (but not parallel, as it's way OOB) and HADES.

To say he can't face anything ugly or unsightly within himself - or others - is an understatement. He's also the embodiment of a frustrated modern fury.

What gets me is how it's conjunct my CHIRON. Really, part of a rather complicated synastric configuration. Seeing his TISIPHONE-HADES conjunct my CHIRON was an epiphanic moment for me. Now seeing it conjunct his HEKATE, with the newfound knowledge it's 'what we can't face' is ... a bit staggering.

Does HADES often refer to past lives in your experience, Ami?

It's also making soft minor aspects to my SNODE, semisextile and quincunx.

Anyhow. That's ... hmm. Gotta grok that.

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posted January 18, 2014 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Heket is buried in my12th virgo , and no aspect to any major planets only exact opposed to asteroid SALOM in Pisces.

What is that mean ? More and more obscure in my sub-conscious that no one see it ?

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posted January 23, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I don't understand how the goddess of the crossroads (usually 3 way), who helped Ceres find her lost child Persephone, and is often viewed as a crone, is involved with the part(s) of ourselves we "refuse" to see? To the contrary, she would be involved in showing us the way when the paths are clouded, dark, or difficult.

But then I don't believe the shadow self and the unconscious has much to do with willful "refusal."

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posted January 23, 2014 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That said, Hecate is fairly prominent in my chart at 21 Pisces:

sextile Vesta at 21 Taurus
quincunx Juno at 21 Libra

and widely (at 2) opposite Venus and Saturn.

Curious as to what you would say she obscures or is masking that I refuse to face?

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Ami Anne
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posted January 23, 2014 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From your comments, Deliah, I think we see things very differently, so I think you may be better off searching the net for answers or consulting IQ for a professional consultation.
Take care!

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posted January 23, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm always interested in perspectives that are different than mine, Ami.

I think you have an amazing ability to express yourself and distill things down to a one word essence that is easy to remember and helpful when doing charts. I just think that life, mythology, and astrology are complex, rarely black or white, and that there are at least two sides to every coin.

So I truly am interested in an answer to my question. You won't offend.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 23, 2014 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
I'm always interested in perspectives that are different than mine, Ami.

I think you have an amazing ability to express yourself and distill things down to a one word essence that is easy to remember and helpful when doing charts. I just think that life, mythology, and astrology are complex, rarely black or white, and that there are at least two sides to every coin.

So I truly am interested in an answer to my question. You won't offend.


I pour my heart and soul into Astrology I try to serve people.


However, if I sense I am not the right person for someone, I am going to let other people respond.

I do not want to argue with people over the right or wrong way I do Astrology. I do it as I see it with the understanding I have as a 4 year student.

I am going to use my limited resources with the posts I feel resonate with me in a positive way and appreciate how I do Astrology.


I am going to let other people answer your question and Take care!


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posted January 24, 2014 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you Delilah. Hekate was the Wayshower, and also protector of women. She is associated with the dark, but in that she guided those at Crossroads in their lives. Like many women with the vision she was assigned the role of witch by men who feared that power. So in a way she is associated with the shadow, the part of us that is buried because to wield that power in the open draws attention from those who would repress our magnificence and intuitive knowledge. (Including the repressive parts of ourselves)

She came to guide me back from death's door, but she let me make that decision.

Think the witches of Salem. Heretics to the fanatical Faithful of those times in New England.

Not shadow as in twisted ugly bits but as in beautiful wise bits that draw others' fear and jealousy. But if we acknowledge that power in ourselves then none of that petty power/control trip can touch us.

This is a public forum and there are several members here who would agree and probably expand on that for you in fact I think there are other threads on Hekate with much info though it includes other sources as well as our opinions.

I have her near the MC but not close enough to call conjunct.

Where is yours, Ami?

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posted January 24, 2014 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
I agree with you Delilah. Hekate was the Wayshower, and also protector of women. She is associated with the dark, but in that she guided those at Crossroads in their lives. Like many women with the vision she was assigned the role of witch by men who feared that power. So in a way she is associated with the shadow, the part of us that is buried because to wield that power in the open draws attention from those who would repress our magnificence and intuitive knowledge. (Including the repressive parts of ourselves)

She came to guide me back from death's door, but she let me make that decision.

Think the witches of Salem. Heretics to the fanatical Faithful of those times in New England.

Not shadow as in twisted ugly bits but as in beautiful wise bits that draw others' fear and jealousy. But if we acknowledge that power in ourselves then none of that petty power/control trip can touch us.

This is a public forum and there are several members here who would agree and probably expand on that for you in fact I think there are other threads on Hekate with much info though it includes other sources as well as our opinions.


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posted January 24, 2014 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cata
I tried to make it clear that I am a 4 year Astrology student. I have an opinion and a way of looking at Astrology that is the way I see it.

I am not calling anyone wrong. Each person is different and each Astrologer is different.

Some people resonate with me and some don't.

For the people who don't, there are many other Astrologers on here for whom they will resonate.


For the people who do, I will try to pay special attention to their posts and that way everyone will find his best niche!

Take care Cata

PS I am not sure where my Hekate is. I will look later.

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posted January 24, 2014 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will add that if anyone wants to have a reading done by a master Astrologer, contact IQ.
He is a true master and an honor to have here at LL
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posted January 24, 2014 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I agree, IQ is fabulous! I clicked on this thread because Hekate is a particular favourite energy for me, I mentioned why in my post. Delilah wanted to discuss a little further than you wanted to go, so I chipped in, as per your suggestion. You are welcome to your opinion and in fact I think I pointed out how you are right...and added nuance,

I too am a student of astrology, not a master but an intuitive who has been studying it for a couple of decades. Hekate came to me in a vision one night as I lay on the edge between life and death. She made me choose...or inspired me to choose life. I identified her laterthru astrology and mythology snd the help of someone who knew her well.

If you see her as dark that may be because of where she sits on your chart, and if you want to learn about her looking there would he valuable as you gather info from the rest of us. I merely wanted to reassure Delilah that discussion of different facets can be found without trawling the internet for other forums/blogs. There is no need for defense we are all learning together, right?

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posted January 24, 2014 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see Hekate as dark so much as what it TOUCHES one does not want to face. Wouldn't it be funny if I had it conjunct Eris

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posted January 24, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, as I said, I agree. However what Hekate shows you is where you are hiding your power not your nastiness, imo. As in Marianne Williamson's "our greatest fear...is not our smallness but our greatness"...? We are often afraid to look because, if we admit we are not victims but creators of our lives, we have no excuses for taking the easy road any more...I believe this is also part of Jung's urging to face the shadow.

Mine is in scorpio(4* from MC) a little far to call conjunct but, significantly,to me, it exactly opposes asteroid viviane, the lady of the lake, another seer and wayshower for those who would look beyond the "veil"..she is directly opposite hekate near my IC and trine ceres exact, who is trine my Jupiter. So Vivian ties Hekate into my chart, which is significant to me because Merlin conjuncts my sun exact as does Arthur my NN.

But I digress! Back to Hekate, whose name, also, is significant to me, since it is almost exactly identical to my own

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posted January 24, 2014 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hekate in the 9th at 6 degrees Pisces makes a Grand water trine to Uranus scorpio at 7 degrees and Venus Cancer at 8 degrees.

Is opp. Vesta in the 3rd Virgo at 4 degrees. Sext. Chiron/Sedna in Taurus 11th house at 5 degrees.

Any thoughts Ami???
Hide my sexuality ??? Lol

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posted January 24, 2014 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by olgatheo:
Hekate in the 9th at 6 degrees Pisces makes a Grand water trine to Uranus scorpio at 7 degrees and Venus Cancer at 8 degrees.

Is opp. Vesta in the 3rd Virgo at 4 degrees. Sext. Chiron/Sedna in Taurus 11th house at 5 degrees.

Any thoughts Ami???
Hide my sexuality ??? Lol


With asteroids, they do not have great energy like planets, so I like to stick with very close conjunctions not more than 3 degrees and that is wide.


I really don't know what to make of the trine, Olga.


The trine is an easy flow of energy so may not be a shadow side. Perhaps, the trine may be things one can accept.

I would need to do a lot more research with charts to answer that.

I have just dealt with close conjunctions or close oppositions or squares.

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posted January 24, 2014 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
With asteroids, they do not have great energy like planets, so I like to stick with very close conjunctions not more than 3 degrees and that is wide.


I really don't know what to make of the trine, Olga.


The trine is an easy flow of energy so may not be a shadow side.


I really don't know. I have just dealt with close conjunctions or close oppositions or squares.




Thanks for the reply :-) I checked they are all under 2 degrees ...


Hekate 6 Pisces
Sedna / Chiron 5 Taurus
Vesta 4 virgo


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Hekate is the gateway between life and death and the underworld.

NOT "your shadow self".

Lilith is NOT "the vixen". Lilith is where you rebel even if it means you become an outcast and thrown out by the rest of the world. It's where you won't get on your knees and bow down, it's where you know you're an equal and SAY SO.

This is why I say you need to stop attacking other astrologers because you ALWAYS get stuff wrong. And not even "a little wrong". You're usually WAY, WAY off the mark.

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posted January 25, 2014 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Imopp, Everyone is entitled to their vision...I can tel you I have seriously altered some of my astro-perceptions over the years. By all means pipe in with your own interpretations and broaden the topic especially if you see something as black and white, mistaken or simplistic but realize that astrology itself encompasses a lot of different viewpoints? I agree that Hekate is a very powerful asteroid and she stood at that gateway for me! But in the sense that we are often afraid to step into our awesome powers ( and thus stuff those parts of ourselves), she helps us see where we have allowed ourselves to make those parts shadows...what d'you think?

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posted January 25, 2014 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes much more sense to me.

ZEUS is a perfect expression of my personal power which, when I harness it, allows me to be a truly phenomenal individual.

To that end, our society looks down on egocentricism; while I frequently go my own way (a lot of prominent Lilith), there's the nagging voice to 'fall in line'. I rarely ever do completely, but ZEUS, to me, typifies that part of my personal power which makes me a bit uncomfortable.

I should allow myself to BE the inspiring leader and magnanimous personality that I am, but it's not so easy for a VIR ASC. 😉

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posted January 25, 2014 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, if it's also parallel my 8C and my PRIAPUS, sexual expression is a part of my personal power?

I wonder what's up with the TISIPHONE-HADES conjunction. How would that be interpreted as relating to personal power? How does one harness TISIPHONE and HADES?

Just noticed his CUPIDO is there, too.

Tisiphone, Hades, Cupido, and Hekate. That's quite a combo.

Any ideas? Suggestions?

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Imopp, Everyone is entitled to their vision...I can tel you I have seriously altered some of my astro-perceptions over the years. By all means pipe in with your own interpretations and broaden the topic especially if you see something as black and white, mistaken or simplistic but realize that astrology itself encompasses a lot of different viewpoints? I agree that Hekate is a very powerful asteroid and she stood at that gateway for me! But in the sense that we are often afraid to step into our awesome powers ( and thus stuff those parts of ourselves), she helps us see where we have allowed ourselves to make those parts shadows...what d'you think?

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