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Ami Anne
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posted January 20, 2014 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Betelgeuse conjunct my Gemini Sun at 28 degrees Gemini. Betelgeuse is like Aldebaran in that it can give you great honors but you can fall to disgrace if you do not exercise wisdom and integrity. Many fixed stars have this quality. Some Fixed Stars are pure gifts. Others are just bad. Many confer gifts but exact a price. That price is personal integrity. Betelgeuse is in the latter category.

Betelgeuse will make you a star. It will allow you to be a star, is a better way of saying it. It will give you qualities you can use to shine. You have to use them, as is the case for everything in the chart. One must use one’s potential. This may be one of the hardest things in life, feeling like we have a lot to offer. One seems oneself too closely. One sees one’s flaws with a front row seat. However, if you have Betelgeuse in a prominent place, you can shine, if you try.

I have not really used Houses with Fixed Stars or Asteroids, simply because there are so many other things to consider that I put the House second. However, I have Belegeuse conjunct my 9th House Gemini Sun. The 9th House seems to be the one in which I express my inner self and where I am able to make an impact, so I think I need to add houses to the Fixed Star Mix. Let me know what you think if you have this Fixed Star. I wish I could write more but I need you to help me with your experiences, so we both can learn.

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posted January 24, 2014 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It conj. My Jupiter exact ! From exp. Excelled in school and higher education,love travelling esp. To learn or volunteer . I have always had a strong sense of what is right , like if step out of line or do something , I will receive exaclty what I deserve but I dont know if it is this placement or My Sun/Saturn conj. In Leo.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 24, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by olgatheo:
It conj. My Jupiter exact ! From exp. Excelled in school and higher education,love travelling esp. To learn or volunteer . I have always had a strong sense of what is right , like if step out of line or do something , I will receive exaclty what I deserve but I dont know if it is this placement or My Sun/Saturn conj. In Leo.

Sounds more like Betal, to me. How close is the Sun/Saturn, Olga?

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posted January 24, 2014 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sounds more like Betal, to me. How close is the Sun/Saturn, Olga?


Sun 17 , Saturn 19 in the 3rd.

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posted January 24, 2014 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b] Sounds more like Betal, to me. How close is the Sun/Saturn, Olga

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posted January 25, 2014 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this conjunct my ascendant by 1 deg. I don't really feel its effects, though.

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posted January 25, 2014 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this conjunct my ascendant by 1 deg. I don't really feel its effects, though.

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posted January 29, 2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne,

I was wondering about this star and how it might work in my case as it is exact conjunct my sun/Moon midpoint( 28 Gemini) I don't have any planets that aspect it. However, when my soul mate appeared in my life it was activated by a transit.

My progressed moon is in Aquarius at 28 degree so it would trine the midpoint though it would take a transit to set it off right? or would it have to be stronger like a conjunction ?

any thoughts?

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Ami Anne
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posted January 29, 2014 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vesta:
Ami Anne,

I was wondering about this star and how it might work in my case as it is exact conjunct my sun/Moon midpoint( 28 Gemini) I don't have any planets that aspect it. However, when my soul mate appeared in my life it was activated by a transit.

My progressed moon is in Aquarius at 28 degree so it would trine the midpoint though it would take a transit to set it off right? or would it have to be stronger like a conjunction ?

any thoughts?



Hi Vesta

I don't work with midpoints, so can't say. Ceri does a lot with midpoints.

I would love to learn about them but got off on other subjects, so never did.

You can make a special thread for Ceri and ask her the question, my Friend!

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posted January 29, 2014 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne,

thank you for your reply,

I know this may be a little off topic but it does involve a fixed star and thought you may be interested.

I was doing research and found that the fixed star Fomalhault is at 3.52 pisces it is sort of like the luckiest of the lucky. However, it is the star of Archangel Gabriel

When Mercury enters pisces and goes retrograde it will conjunct Neptune they will both be in a tight conjunction to fomalhaut. The midpoint of mercury and Neptune will of course be there and it is about communication with messages from the beyond, channeling, clairvoyance.

Now, I personally don't have anything at that point. however it will trine my DSC and Uranus ( higher octave of Mercury)exact. conjunct the transiting NN and transiting asteroid angel.

This makes me curious and personally I hope he does speak to me as I love getting messages from him.

anyway, I just thought this was a really neat aspect. with that particular fixed star.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 29, 2014 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vesta:
Ami Anne,

thank you for your reply,

I know this may be a little off topic but it does involve a fixed star and thought you may be interested.

I was doing research and found that the fixed star Fomalhault is at 3.52 pisces it is sort of like the luckiest of the lucky. However, it is the star of Archangel Gabriel

When Mercury enters pisces and goes retrograde it will conjunct Neptune they will both be in a tight conjunction to fomalhaut. The midpoint of mercury and Neptune will of course be there and it is about communication with messages from the beyond, channeling, clairvoyance.

Now, I personally don't have anything at that point. however it will trine my DSC and Uranus ( higher octave of Mercury)exact. conjunct the transiting NN and transiting asteroid angel.

This makes me curious and personally I hope he does speak to me as I love getting messages from him.

anyway, I just thought this was a really neat aspect. with that particular fixed star.



That is awesome. Thanks for sharing, Vesta

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posted January 29, 2014 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was a little curious so I pulled my draconic chart.

My asteroid angel is conjunct my natal ASC.
so when mercury and Neptune come together on that point and aspect my Uranus, DSC and ASC ( natal) it will also aspect the transiting Angel, NN and my draconic angel.

My draconic Gabriel is at 12 Aries with transiting Uranus at 10. which is square transiting Pluto in Capricorn with my natal Angel and opposition my Draconic Mercury ( conjunct 12th cusp) in Cancer with transiting Jupiter.

I looked at the draconic because I feel that they speak to our soul.

anyway just sharing !

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posted January 31, 2014 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ALP ORI = BETELGEUSE
YEAR DD MM SIN
1900 27 22 GEM
1901 27 23 GEM
1902 27 23 GEM
1903 27 24 GEM
1904 27 25 GEM
1905 27 26 GEM
1906 27 27 GEM
1907 27 28 GEM
1908 27 28 GEM
1909 27 29 GEM
1910 27 30 GEM
1911 27 31 GEM
1912 27 32 GEM
1913 27 33 GEM
1914 27 33 GEM
1915 27 34 GEM
1916 27 35 GEM
1917 27 36 GEM
1918 27 37 GEM
1919 27 38 GEM
1920 27 38 GEM
1921 27 39 GEM
1922 27 40 GEM
1923 27 41 GEM
1924 27 42 GEM
1925 27 43 GEM
1926 27 44 GEM
1927 27 44 GEM
1928 27 45 GEM
1929 27 46 GEM
1930 27 47 GEM
1931 27 48 GEM
1932 27 49 GEM
1933 27 49 GEM
1934 27 50 GEM
1935 27 51 GEM
1936 27 52 GEM
1937 27 53 GEM
1938 27 54 GEM
1939 27 54 GEM
1940 27 55 GEM
1941 27 56 GEM
1942 27 57 GEM
1943 27 58 GEM
1944 27 59 GEM
1945 27 59 GEM
1946 28 00 GEM
1947 28 01 GEM
1948 28 02 GEM
1949 28 03 GEM
1950 28 04 GEM
1951 28 04 GEM
1952 28 05 GEM
1953 28 06 GEM
1954 28 07 GEM
1955 28 08 GEM
1956 28 09 GEM
1957 28 09 GEM
1958 28 10 GEM
1959 28 11 GEM
1960 28 12 GEM
1961 28 13 GEM
1962 28 14 GEM
1963 28 15 GEM
1964 28 15 GEM
1965 28 16 GEM
1966 28 17 GEM
1967 28 18 GEM
1968 28 19 GEM
1969 28 20 GEM
1970 28 20 GEM
1971 28 21 GEM
1972 28 22 GEM
1973 28 23 GEM
1974 28 24 GEM
1975 28 25 GEM
1976 28 25 GEM
1977 28 26 GEM
1978 28 27 GEM
1979 28 28 GEM
1980 28 29 GEM
1981 28 30 GEM
1982 28 30 GEM
1983 28 31 GEM
1984 28 32 GEM
1985 28 33 GEM
1986 28 34 GEM
1987 28 35 GEM
1988 28 35 GEM
1989 28 36 GEM
1990 28 37 GEM
1991 28 38 GEM
1992 28 39 GEM
1993 28 40 GEM
1994 28 40 GEM
1995 28 41 GEM
1996 28 42 GEM
1997 28 43 GEM
1998 28 44 GEM
1999 28 45 GEM

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Ami Anne
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posted January 31, 2014 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you bjorkstrand

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posted May 18, 2018 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cosmicworker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Jupiter exactly conjunct Betelgeuse. They are only 3 arc minutes apart from being exact. Jupiter is also conjunct my Ascendant and is the planet forming the opposition and sextiles to my grand fire trine. It is opposite my moon and sextiling my Mercury/Venus conjunction and Saturn.

I am wondering if Jupiter conjunct Betelgeuse lessens some of Jupiter's detriment in Gemini? I feel like my Jupiter is one of my strongest planets even though it is in Gemini. Maybe this is because there are so many aspects to it?

I also had an astrologer tell me once that Jupiter conjunct Betelgeuse rising meant I would be famous in life. She said if they were conjunct setting, then it means fame after death.

Has anyone else heard that?

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posted July 02, 2018 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted July 03, 2018 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Betelgeuse 28° in Gemini 2nd H.
Conjunct with Moon and Venus.
Opposite of Neptune.
Trine Jupiter and Pluto.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 04, 2018 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is very nice, Soma, and Welcome!

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posted July 04, 2018 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ami.

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posted July 05, 2018 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no clue if betelgeuse square pluto is star quality. I don't have any idea what this can
indicate so I looked @my comparison chart natal/dr.
I have an Air trine between Betelgeuse +Pallas @44minutes.

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posted July 05, 2018 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Somna7H:
Thank you Ami.


You are very welcome, Soma!

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posted July 05, 2018 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
no clue if betelgeuse square pluto is star quality. I don't have any idea what this can
indicate so I looked @my comparison chart natal/dr.
I have an Air trine between Betelgeuse +Pallas @44minutes.

The squares are THWARTs to the workings of things, MM>

The trine sounds nice, though!

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posted July 05, 2018 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The squares are THWARTs to the workings of things, MM>

The trine sounds nice, though!


Thank you, Ami. I like your topics.

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