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Ami Anne
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posted January 26, 2014 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Osiris is one of the more complicated myths. I tend to eschew these for the sheer difficulty of extracting the essence but I have Osiris conjunct my Sun, so I stuck with it. If there is ever a character who lives ten lifetimes in one, it is Osiris.

Osiris had a great interest in immortality. In one version of the myth, his was murdered and stuffed in a coffin. He died. His wife, brought him back to life using a magical spell. In another version of the myth, she brought him back to life so he could impregnate her with her son, Horus. After this he died. His evil brother Set found his body and chopped it into fourteen pieces. He scattered them across the land.

Isis’ heart was broken and she gathered the pieces for a proper burial. The gods were so impressed with the devotion of Isis that they made Osiris the god of the underworld.

What would one take from this myth? A man who had a devoted wife. Isis and Osiris are supposed to be paired asteroids that show up in the charts of soul mates.

What else could one extract from this myth to make it practical? Could one say the he evaded death and had many resurrections. What do you think?

I will put it out there for comments. Where do you have it in the chart and what do you think? I eagerly await your comments, as always

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posted January 26, 2014 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may be a person who keeps getting resurrected into new lives, so to speak. I think I have it conj my Sun but I have to check. I do my own chart last lol

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posted January 26, 2014 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami,

From what I have seen, Isis represents the divine feminine (love, heart) and Osiris represents the divine masculine (Mind, light). The divine Masculine can never be 'reborn', unless the divine feminine (love) is the there to make it so. So another words you cannot know the divine mind (Osiris) unless you first feel the love of the divine feminine.

In practical terms, Isis and Osiris represents the union of the Heart and Mind. Meaning it brings the consciousness back to oneness (God)

The resurrection back to oneness cannot be achieved without the divine feminine. Because the heart opens the door to everything.

That's why love is the great revealer. In my own life, I wasn't awakened to God until I experienced romantic true love..

One can use their mind (Osiris) endlessly to try and find truth and oneness, but it will never be achieved unless one has experienced the love of the mother (divine feminine).


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posted January 26, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Osiris in the 6th conjunct DSC. No idea.

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posted January 26, 2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Osiris in the 6th conjunct DSC. No idea.




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posted January 26, 2014 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't laugh at me, help me!

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posted January 26, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isis conjunct Osiris exactly. In Capricorn and 1st house.
Both are conjunct Venus by 1-2 degree, too and conjunct Spirit by 2-3 degrees.

There is a definite cathartis and resurrection theme when it comes to romantic love for me.

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posted January 26, 2014 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Osiris at 29 Cancer
and Isis at 7 Leo


Both are conjunct in Leo by progression now in my 10th house.

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posted January 26, 2014 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Osiris in Capricorn, on the cusp of my 8th house, conjunct my moon, and SN (1,2) and trine my venus (0). Still figuring out what it means...

Any theories?

I also have Horus conjunct my venus (0), trine Osiris (0)

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posted January 26, 2014 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Hi Ami,

From what I have seen, Isis represents the divine feminine (love, heart) and Osiris represents the divine masculine (Mind, light). The divine Masculine can never be 'reborn', unless the divine feminine (love) is the there to make it so. So another words you cannot know the divine mind (Osiris) unless you first feel the love of the divine feminine.

In practical terms, Isis and Osiris represents the union of the Heart and Mind. Meaning it brings the consciousness back to oneness (God)

The resurrection back to oneness cannot be achieved without the divine feminine. Because the heart opens the door to everything.

That's why love is the great revealer. In my own life, I wasn't awakened to God until I experienced romantic true love..

One can use their mind (Osiris) endlessly to try and find truth and oneness, but it will never be achieved unless one has experienced the love of the mother (divine feminine).


Bingo. That's how I know them, too. They're almost always taken as a pair, and frequently in synastries and composites of soulmates and even Twinflames.

The powerful love of Isis (feminine principle) is very in line with such devotion to the masculine principle (Osiris).

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posted January 26, 2014 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe it's closely conjunct my NNODE, along with ISIS. LEO. 12H. Transdimensionality, as well as the union of divine masculine and feminine indeed feels a part of both my karma (12H) and evolution (NNODE).

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posted January 27, 2014 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2H 2degrees Libra conjunct 4 degrees Pluto. Isis is back there in Virgo at 27. Too wide.

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posted January 27, 2014 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Isis conjunct Osiris exactly. In Capricorn and 1st house.
Both are conjunct Venus by 1-2 degree, too and conjunct Spirit by 2-3 degrees.

There is a definite cathartis and resurrection theme when it comes to romantic love for me.




But I read in some occult book that thats the key to knowing that you will find your Twinflame?
You have Venus and Spirit so even more obvious!

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posted January 27, 2014 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Osiris in Virgo 18 degrees conj. IC opp. Pholus in Pisces conj.MC.
Mars Gemini sq. To both..

No idea , one way It has manifested I have had accidents to my fingers,arms, stomach, feet, lungs and upper thighs .

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posted January 27, 2014 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by olgatheo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b]Isis conjunct Osiris exactly. In Capricorn and 1st house.
Both are conjunct Venus by 1-2 degree, too and conjunct Spirit by 2-3 degrees.

There is a definite cathartis and resurrection theme when it comes to romantic love for me.




But I read in some occult book that thats the key to knowing that you will find your Twinflame?
You have Venus and Spirit so even more obvious! [/B][/QUOTE]

In what book did you read that? I am curious now.

I was wondering myself if that very conjunction might be the reason I seem to be unable to "just" fall in love. Everytime I develop deeper romantic feelings for someone, there seems something else to vibrate with it, more spiritual and satisfying my own soul`s development. It is difficult to explain.

The Sabian of my Osiris is:
In A Sunlit Home Domesticated Birds Sing Joyously


The Sabian of my Isis is:
An Angel Carrying A Harp


On the same degree as my SPIRIT there is also GUINEVERE, and ARTHUR is exactly conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp, Antivertex and opposing EROS and DESTINN.

There seems to be an interlocking of mythologies going on, especially the egyptian and ARthurian ones (and Babylonian, but that is for another day).


As for the Egyptians, not only is Isis on 8 Cap and Osiris on 7 Cap, but they are exactly sextile Horus on 8 Pisces and Echnaton on 7 Pisces. Nephtys is on 5 Scorpio.

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posted January 27, 2014 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna do an article summarizing Isis in a simple way, hopefully.

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posted January 27, 2014 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ma wondering if Osiris conj the Sun or ASC of a person makes for a person who is born and reborn in terms of personal rebirths. Any thoughts on that?

His story is a raising from the dead in miraculous ways.

There are people who have to transform themselves over and over in their lives. I think that may be his story. Any comments?

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posted January 27, 2014 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I ma wondering if Osiris conj the Sun or ASC of a person makes for a person who is born and reborn in terms of personal rebirths. Any thoughts on that?

His story is a raising from the dead in miraculous ways.

There are people who have to transform themselves over and over in their lives. I think that may be his story. Any comments?


Yes, I think it makes sense in the light of the myth.

I can also apply it to my own life, I seem to draw in (spiritual/ emotional) kathartic experiences regulalry, and it feels strangely purifying to me.
Like the phoenix and the ashes, from time to time, certain things, thought-patterns, emotional residues seem to need to be burned away, and I feel like reborn after.
When I look back on my life, it actually feels like several lives lived in one, though there is a stable core of myself, that stays.

Maybe it is Osiris at that point in my chart, however my Pluto is on 9 Libra, and thus squaring Venus-Isis-Osiris-Spirit, so it might add fuel to this as well.

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posted January 27, 2014 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I have it conjunct the Sun, Ceri. My life has been very much of a rebirth and many times. I would not have wanted it, if I could have chosen.

This last one was the worst but I was reborn into Astrology and finding my life's passion, as well as finding God.

I would never have really gotten out of any of my comfort zone without being forced.

I really wanted to be a traditional person like my Aunt. She had a career but stayed home with her children. All of them did really well. She has a wonderful family that is very close.

She is a cancer Sun conj pluto in the 4th.

She is a very traditional Jewish person, not Born Again like me, which is really, really looked down on by traditional Jews.

I had to find God or I would have died, like Osiris, I guess.

I did not have the option of having the kind of life that "worked" like my Aunts seem to have done.

So, I have been reborn several times. I hope it just stops now

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posted January 27, 2014 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
In what book did you read that? I am curious now.

I was wondering myself if that very conjunction might be the reason I seem to be unable to "just" fall in love. Everytime I develop deeper romantic feelings for someone, there seems something else to vibrate with it, more spiritual and satisfying my own soul`s development. It is difficult to explain.

The Sabian of my Osiris is:
In A Sunlit Home Domesticated Birds Sing Joyously


The Sabian of my Isis is:
An Angel Carrying A Harp


On the same degree as my SPIRIT there is also GUINEVERE, and ARTHUR is exactly conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp, Antivertex and opposing EROS and DESTINN.

There seems to be an interlocking of mythologies going on, especially the egyptian and ARthurian ones (and Babylonian, but that is for another day).


Hey, this is interesting - that a conjunction could indicate that you will find your Twin flame. I have Isis and Osiris conjunct at the Great Attractor along with Apollo and Sekhmet, which sounds promising doesn't it?

Isis -13 Sag
Osiris, Apollo, Sekhmet -14 Sag

Any thoughts on the above Ceri?

Re the Sekhmet/Osris conjunction iQ had said that it was Proof of an ancient Egyptian life where I mastered many occult concepts.

The Sabain for 13-14 Sag is: "The Great Pyramid And The Sphinx"

Whilst Osiris at 14-15 Sag is: "The Ground Hog Looking For Its Shadow On Ground Hog Day" - various meanings have been attributed to this.

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i have it conjunct vesta exact, pallas by 1. in sagittarius.

just thinking of it ... i associate the myth with the concept of oneness & the process of being in bits. also the wizard of oz film & book which parallels the myth in some ways i think.

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posted January 28, 2014 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Osiris in my 9th house
concunct True Node
trine ASC
square Chiron
square Mercury

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posted January 28, 2014 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ceridwen, the books I read were on line on a site called scared-texts.com it was a long time ago...cant remember but if you put Osiris-isis conj. On the search index a tonload of books will be put up!! I will try to find it! :-)

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posted January 28, 2014 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Hey, this is interesting - that a conjunction could indicate that you will find your Twin flame. I have Isis and Osiris conjunct at the Great Attractor along with Apollo and Sekhmet, which sounds promising doesn't it?

Isis -13 Sag
Osiris, Apollo, Sekhmet -14 Sag

Any thoughts on the above Ceri?

Re the Sekhmet/Osris conjunction iQ had said that it was Proof of an ancient Egyptian life where I mastered many occult concepts.

The Sabain for 13-14 Sag is: "The Great Pyramid And The Sphinx"

Whilst Osiris at 14-15 Sag is: "The Ground Hog Looking For Its Shadow On Ground Hog Day" - various meanings have been attributed to this.


i view it as IQ does (probably does, if I understand him right, that is).

If there are several egyptian asteroids flocking together like this, ESPECIALLY on an Egyptian Sabian, there is a theme. For those believing in reincarnation, it might be a reincarnation theme.
Though for this I would expect to see conjunctions or exact major aspects (trine, square, opposition and in this case, the quinkunx especially) of these rlevant asteroids (Isis-osiris-Sekhmet in your case9 to (Sun), Moon, ASC-DESC, IC-MC, nodal axis, Saturn, Pluto, asteroid KARMA.
those take centre stage imo.

BTW a mythological pattern/ theme-complex can also exist if there are no conjunctions between the asteroids but equal degree aspects, making an energetic system; especially strong if belonging to the same harmnonic, like a Grand Trine (3rd harmonic), T-square or Grand Cross (4th harmonic), Yod (12th harmonic), Star of David (6th harmonic), but even a Golden Yod (5th harmonic because of consisting of biquintile and two quintiles working together), or a 9th harmonic complex, ESPECIALLY a 9th harmonic complex actually. LOL
(I am fond of them recently, and they represent pure threeness, and I suppose Indian astrology has emphasized them so much for a reason, and I just tentatively start understanding the reason, maybe I am wrong, but it feels like I am getting a sense of how the 3rd and 9th harmonic aspects are so important in terms of energetic-flow, and how I underestimated them so much. But in terms of soulgroups or soulmates or whatever, in the 2nd harmonic or 4th harmonic, as dynmaic that is, you just put two people together, man and woman probably - btw 2nd and 4th harmonic is emphasizing opposition and square, and the conjunction is present in EVERYTHING; at the base of all it is about union,b ut it is a starting point and has to flow somewhere, express and manifest somehow and it needs aspects for this, to not stay static; however in the 3rd harmonic and the octave, the 9th harmonic, something else comes into it, the element of spirit, which makes the union of two more than the sum of the single parts. Of course it might be very different how we define the concept of Spirit. But I think it is there in the harmonious yet energetic flow of the 3rd and 9th harmonic; it is probably not coincidental that trines connect the same elements,t oo. anyway sorry, I am aware that noone will be able to follow my train of thoughts here. LOL
I got carried away too far.

I will leave it here nevertheless, I might want to put some more thought into this.


speaking of energetic pattern Mine is a 6th harmonic pattern, though Nephtys is a little wide in orb. (I left out the other more Babylonian oriented asteroids, cause it would get too diluted)

Isis: 8.32 Capricorn
Osiris: 7.50 Capricorn
Venus: 6.07 Capricorn

Nephtys: 4.56 Scorpio

Pholus: 6.46 Pisces
Horus: 8.01 Pisces


In this case the energy-flow gets "poured" into the Isis-Osiris-Venus-conjunction (the direction and aiming to that is clear, as Isis-osiris-Venus is on the midpoint of the other ones. A midpoint is like the spot, an arrow is pointing at).


My ASC is on 7.01 Sagittarius, and of course squaring Pholus and HOrus, but more important semisextile Isis-Osiris-Venus AND semisextile Nephtys.

In this case it is also a harmonic or energetic pattern, but a 12th harmonic one (a small one, the little brother or in this case sister of the Yod), with my ASC on the midpoint.


so for me personally my Egyptian pattern is strong, yes, but to say more than this it has a 6th and 12th harmonic vibration. Or put differently it is of a sextile and quinkunx nature.

A lot of learning and gathering of information and spreading of information and also adjusting and transforming are themes of the 6th and 12th harmonic. The 12th is a bit more uncomfortable though.

Just picture it like this my Isis-osiris is in Capricorn and my Nephtys is in Scorpio, quite internal, introverted energies right there. They would understand each other well, but they have to express themselves through my ASC,w hich is in Sagittarius, mutable fire. Of course there is adjustment needed, the Egyptian experience is deeper and potentially darker, than the outward expression might allow to reflect. Or in other words, I have to take the transformational kathartic, even darker experiences and make them show in a more philosophical, open and light way.


the 6th harmonic pattern is easier to deal with, because the elements are in harmony with each other, though not the same. It is even positive, as Capricorn can give a more practical stable frame or way of expression to the deeply emotional energies.


I am babbling again. lol

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