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Topic: Which person is more affected: the planet or the asteroid person?
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BorntoDesire Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Berlin, Germany Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 02, 2014 04:51 AM
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Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 74285 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 02, 2014 08:51 AM
Welcome Born to desire In an exact conjunction, both would feel it. By the nature of the planet, it has a stronger energy, so perhaps the planet person but if it is EXACT, then both, I would say. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 02, 2014 01:59 PM
Exact conjunctions they will both feel it but in different ways... If one persons Eros conjuncts another's Venus, the Eros person will feel their sexuality has been infused with love...while the Venus person will feel their love has been infused with sexuality. If one persons Sun conjuncts another's Moon, the Sun person will feel deeply understood and needed, they will be drawn to want to protect the other emotionally and protecting them emotionally will make the Sun person feel better about themselves. The moon person will feel emotionally awakened and infused with life by the Sun, they will feel their emotions are seen and heard innately! Sometimes that isn't good, if the moon person is afraid to see their emotions....the light the sun person shines on the moon persons emotions might be hard to handle and take some getting used to for the moon person!It works this way with any Sun conjunction...the Sun person brings light to the place it conjuncts...so it's seen by both...if someone isn't ready to see it, they will run from it or maybe just feel uneasy and unconsciously exposed by the Sun person. The moon conjunction to any planet will bring emotional understanding to that planet. Mercury conjunct any planet will bring the desire to talk about whatever it conjuncts...if someone's mercury conjuncts your mars you probably won't have a hard time talking dirty to that person. Karma and the Nodes, angles and calculated points are a bit different, they are not felt in the same way as a planet or an asteroid that specifically relates to one certain thing such as Eros is focused on sexuality. If one persons Chiron conjuncts and others Karma, the Chiron person will feel either the pain or the healing of Chiron through this person while the Karma person will be left either wondering why they hurt the person or felt it was their responsibility to be there for that person and help them heal. If one persons Mercury conjunct another's South Node, the Mercury person will probably inniciate the bond but it's the South Node person that will be awaken and drawn to want to talk to this person and potentially beahr their soul to them. Maybe discuss past lives without knowing why they feel you want to go so deep with them...Mercury person will be open to it and probably won't question or feel that the SN person is crazy for believing in things like past lives....even if they would have thought it was crazy or not believed in it with anyone else. Mercury person will want to listen and hear all they say, it will feel very natural and easy. Mercury person will get the SN person and feel the SN person is bringing them to places they have never been before. Mercury person probably does not feel it's as easy for them to open up to the SN person but they will love listening to them and thinking about all that's been discussed will open them up to new ways of thinking! The South Node person holds all the information and the planet person holds the avenue for the South Node person to express what they have felt and learned in another life! It will mutually be felt but only the South Node person will be able to express it, without the Mercury person the SN person wouldn't be me awaken to these things or given an avenue to express it. Venus conjunct SN would allow the SN person to feel the love of that person deeply, instantly....the love was from a past lifetime together and was there waiting to awakened again! Still it seems the planet person innitiates and is drawn to the Node person...but once the node person starts to feel the connection they are the ones that feel the depth. To the SN person, it would feel like they loved you forever....like that song that says, "I knew I loved you before I for met you, I think I dreamed you into life" Their love(Venus person's love) is felt by you(SN person)without having to do a lot to feel it, it would just feel natural and instant...even though the Venus person might not feel the innate love instantly they will be instantly drawn to the SN person. Once the SN person started reacting to the love they felt from the Venus person...the Venus person would start to feel and understand the bond they share deeply also, but only through the SN persons reactions and love energy returned! The Venus person might be very happily surprised that the way they love makes someone feel so special....kind of like, "I really make you feel like that? Wow! I didn't realize I did that? Nobody had ever told me I made them feel so loved" This would make the Venus person feel very happy, validated and appreciated in a love relationship, kind of like their love goes much further with you than others...this makes loving you easy and who doesn't love it when you know someone really feels the love you express? You feel valued and appreciated! IP: Logged |
lifefullofwords Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 02, 2014 04:29 PM
I've been giving this quite a bit of thought lately. I think what happens is the asteroid person takes on the role of that asteroid. So if it's Eros one will have a lot of erotic feelings directed towards whatever planet it contacts. If it's Lust one will feel lustful, if it's Union the person will feel like getting married, et cetera. But the asteroid will also imbue the personal planet it contacts with the feelings associated with that asteroid. So Venus-Eros would cause Venus to feel very erotic, Mars-Lust would create lustful sexual feelings, if it's Moon-Union it will create an emotional need for marriage, and so forth.IP: Logged |
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posted February 02, 2014 05:33 PM
@ GabbyYour explanations are great. Very helpful. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 02, 2014 07:12 PM
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MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted February 02, 2014 07:37 PM
Thanks Gabby, for your interpretations. Very easy to understand. quote: Originally posted by lifefullofwords: I've been giving this quite a bit of thought lately. I think what happens is the asteroid person takes on the role of that asteroid. So if it's Eros one will have a lot of erotic feelings directed towards whatever planet it contacts. If it's Lust one will feel lustful, if it's Union the person will feel like getting married, et cetera. But the asteroid will also imbue the personal planet it contacts with the feelings associated with that asteroid. So Venus-Eros would cause Venus to feel very erotic, Mars-Lust would create lustful sexual feelings, if it's Moon-Union it will create an emotional need for marriage, and so forth.
I don't agree that the asteroid "Union" is always associated with marriage in that way (the traditional sense), or the feeling/desire to marry. It seems more related to a coming together/meeting for a purpose (whatever that may be), and soul connections. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 74285 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 02, 2014 07:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Exact conjunctions they will both feel it but in different ways... If one persons Eros conjuncts another's Venus, the Eros person will feel their sexuality has been infused with love...while the Venus person will feel their love has been infused with sexuality. If one persons Sun conjuncts another's Moon, the Sun person will feel deeply understood and needed, they will be drawn to want to protect the other emotionally and protecting them emotionally will make the Sun person feel better about themselves. The moon person will feel emotionally awakened and infused with life by the Sun, they will feel their emotions are seen and heard innately! Sometimes that isn't good, if the moon person is afraid to see their emotions....the light the sun person shines on the moon persons emotions might be hard to handle and take some getting used to for the moon person!It works this way with any Sun conjunction...the Sun person brings light to the place it conjuncts...so it's seen by both...if someone isn't ready to see it, they will run from it and maybe feel uneasy and unconsciously exposed by the Sun person. The moon conjunction to any planet will bring emotional understanding to that planet. Mercury conjunct any planet will bring the desire to talk about whatever it conjuncts...if someone's mercury conjuncts your mars you probably won't have a hard time talking dirty to that person. Karma and the Nodes, angles and calculated points are a bit different, they are not felt in the same way as a planet or an asteroid that relates to a very specific meaning or feeling, such as Eros is focused on sexuality. If one persons Chiron conjuncts and others Karma, the Chiron person will feel either the pain or the healing of Chiron by this person and the Karma person will be left either wondering why they hurt the person or felt it was their responsibility to be there for their person and help them heal. If one persons Mercury conjunct another's South Node, the South Node person will be drawn to want to talk to this person and potentially beahr their soul to them, maybe discuss past lives without knowing why you feel you want to go so deep with them...Mercury person will be open to it and probably won't question it or feel that the SN person is crazy for believing in things like past lives....even if they would have thought it was crazy or not believed in it with anyone else....the Mercury person will want to listen and hear all they say, it will feel very natural and easy, Mercury person will get the SN person and feel the SN person is bringing them to places they have never been before. Even if the Mercury person does not feel it's as easy for them to open up to the SN person in the same way, they will love listening to them and thinking about all that's been discussed will open them up to new ways of thinking! The South Node person holds all the information and the planet person holds the avenue for the Sourh Node person to express what they have felt and learned in another life! It will mutually be felt but only the South Node person will be able to express it, but without the Mercury person, the SN person wouldn't be me awaken to these things and given an avenue to express it. Venus conjunct SN would allow the SN person to feel the love of that person deeply, instantly....the love was from a past lifetime together and was there waiting to awakened again! To the SN person, it would feel like they loved you forever....like that song that says, "I knew I loved you before I for met you, I think I dreamed you into life" Their love(Venus person's love) is felt by you(SN person)without having to do a lot to feel it, it would just feel natural and instant...even though the Venus person might not feel the innate love instantly they will be drawn to the SN person. Once the SN person started reacting to the love they felt from the Venus person...the Venus person would start to feel and understand the bond they share deeply also, but only through the SN persons reactions and love energy returned! The Venus person might be very happily surprised that the way they love makes someone feel so special....kind of like, "I really make you feel like that? Wow! I didn't realize I did that? Nobody had ever told me I made them feel so loved" This would make the Venus person feel very happy, validated and appreciated in a love relationship, kind of like their love goes much further with you than others...this makes loving you easy and who doesn't love it when you know someone really feels the love you express? You feel valued and appreciated!
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lifefullofwords Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 02, 2014 09:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by MorpHnStorM: Thanks Gabby, for your interpretations. Very easy to understand. I don't agree that the asteroid "Union" is always associated with marriage in that way (the traditional sense), or the feeling/desire to marry. It seems more related to a coming together/meeting for a purpose (whatever that may be), and soul connections.
Fair enough, I didn't mean to simplify the meaning of Union. It was just an example. I do think one of the things it can do is create the need to "make it official" although that might not mean marriage to everyone. But for sure asteroids can have a variety of effects, just like planets. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 02, 2014 11:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by lifefullofwords: Fair enough, I didn't mean to simplify the meaning of Union. It was just an example. I do think one of the things it can do is create the need to "make it official" although that might not mean marriage to everyone. But for sure asteroids can have a variety of effects, just like planets.
I think union can be interpreted in many ways.... Union in marriage Union in friendship Union in work Union in helping each other for mutual gain, there's many ways to unite with another, but typically it's thought of in a romantic way but that really that is just a small part of what union can mean, it depends on how it aspects to other planets/places Union conjunct DC or Juno....marriage Union conjunct MC or Asteroid Banks or Opportunity...probably a business union Add asteroid Swindle to that combo and you could be uniting to rob banks together! Lol IP: Logged |
BorntoDesire Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Berlin, Germany Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 03, 2014 11:04 AM
Thank you so much for your postings! I would not have thought that the planet person feels the influence stronger.Another question about Destinn conjunct North Node/ Amor/Pluto in Synstry: so would you say that the Destinn person does not feel the effect so much? (quess in my case this is true) IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 03, 2014 12:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by BorntoDesire: Thank you so much for your postings! I would not have thought that the planet person feels the influence stronger.Another question about Destinn conjunct North Node/ Amor/Pluto in Synstry: so would you say that the Destinn person does not feel the effect so much? (quess in my case this is true)
The planet person doesn't feel it stronger...both feel it different but not necessarily stronger. They will feel the energy of their own planet what the addition of the energy of whatever is brought to them by another person, this goes both ways...both feel their own planet or asteroid with the addition of the other persons placement that conjuncts them. An exact conjunction will be felt equally...only exception to this is when one persons planet falls in their natal 12th house...the 12th house person might be in contact with their planets in their 12th house, until they start working through their psychological issues they won't feel it as much and if they do...it might bring them panic and distress to meet someone who makes them feel their 12th house planets! A wonderful Venus/moon connection might turn into a terrifying experience for someone with a 12th house moon if they are avoiding dealing with the emotional issues they have and being brought close to the surface by the Venus person! NN is another odd one, when I have things fall on another's NN, it seems I'm drawn to them but also leery of them...I know I have something they need but if they are not ready for it, I know I will be rejected by them! So my planets hitting their NN is a cautious place to tread! Amor/Pluto...Pluto, intensity would be infused with a kindness and unconditional love, Amor would be given an added touch of passion! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 74285 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2014 12:22 PM
The planet person doesn't feel it stronger...both feel it different but not necessarily stronger.Good point, Gabby! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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BorntoDesire Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Berlin, Germany Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 03, 2014 01:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: The planet person doesn't feel it stronger...both feel it different but not necessarily stronger. They will feel the energy of their own planet what the addition of the energy of whatever is brought to them by another person, this goes both ways...both feel their own planet or asteroid with the addition of the other persons placement that conjuncts them.
Thank you Gabby for this insight. I never saw it this way. Would you say this is a fundamental astrology principal? Each person feels the own planet added with the other persons energy... I mean, this would deeply change my sight on synastry aspects.IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 03, 2014 04:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by BorntoDesire: Thank you Gabby for this insight. I never saw it this way. Would you say this is a fundamental astrology principal? Each person feels the own planet added with the other persons energy... I mean, this would deeply change my sight on synastry aspects.
Yes, they don't change your planet or how you feel it's energy, but they do add their energy to it! The way they aspect your planet is what you feel that is different, they don't change you they just add their energy to you, which feels like they have somehow changed you. They open you up to a new layer of energy. Think of it like a recipe, you have a soup...it's good by itself but then someone comes along and adds a spice, an aspect, that makes your soup even better...that's a good aspect or they add a spice that makes it terrible, that's a bad aspect.... The soup is you, it's your birth chart! Your foundation is the soup and the aspects someone else brings can change how your soup is, they can make you better or worse depending how they aspect you! Same with aspects to your progressed planets and transits, they add another layer of energy or spices that's a positive or a negative affecting your soup, or your birth chart! You will always have your basic soup, but the only way to be and feel only YOU is to be completely alone! That's not going to happen...hopefully! If you don't like the layers added to you by another, try to find a way to fix what they added so it becomes something more tolerable and if that can happen they need to leave and take their ingredients with them! Lol If you love their ingredients...keep them around! IP: Logged |
MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted February 03, 2014 05:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I think union can be interpreted in many ways.... Union in marriage Union in friendship Union in work Union in helping each other for mutual gain, there's many ways to unite with another, but typically it's thought of in a romantic way but that really that is just a small part of what union can mean, it depends on how it aspects to other planets/places Union conjunct DC or Juno....marriage Union conjunct MC or Asteroid Banks or Opportunity...probably a business union Add asteroid Swindle to that combo and you could be uniting to rob banks together! Lol
I agree. What would say Union-Pluto could mean? I would guess transformation of some sort. I've seen this pop up in a number of charts, including one of mine with an SC. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 03, 2014 07:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by MorpHnStorM: I agree. What would say Union-Pluto could mean? I would guess transformation of some sort. I've seen this pop up in a number of charts, including one of mine with an SC.
Yes a very intense relationship meant to change you both forever for the better and help you both uncover things that may hurt but need to done away with so you can start out new and on a better path. IP: Logged |
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