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anonymidarkness
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posted February 16, 2014 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does it manifest ? Proserpine/Proserpina in Scorpio conjuncts ASC by less than a degree.

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posted February 16, 2014 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 17, 2014 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yeah. It makes sense, according to it’s myth. Anything else ?

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posted February 17, 2014 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 17, 2014 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can do research on her and see if you can relate to her in a personal level.

but here's some info


Proserpina comes from the latin Serpere, and means “to crawl forward”. She was also identified with the Serpent, as shown on Italian witches charms by a half moon with a serpent coiled around it. She is the daughter of Ceres and Jupiter. This myth starts with Venus instructing her son Cupid to strike Pluto with one of his love arrows. Again Proserpina is out flower picking, but this time she is specifically in Sicily when Pluto leaps out of the Volcano Etna on four black horses, rapes her and makes her his Queen.

Pluto is her uncle in this version. Ceres stopped the growth of all fruits and cursed Sicily. Like the Greek version, Pluto also made Proserpina eat six pomegranate seeds, one for each month of the year that she would have to stay with him. In some versions she actually steals the seeds of her own accord, presumably she actually wanted this dual life.

Artwork of the Roman version seems to emphasis the “rape” element more. This could be because at this time Christianity was starting to take hold and the old pagan, Goddess worshipping religions were slowly being replaced by monotheism. Myths do tend to reflect the societies from whence they came, so my translation of the “rape” is that it is describing the decimation of the goddess worshipping cultures of northern Europe.

Modern feminists rewriting this myth say the rape did not occur and Proserpina willing went into the underworld to help the dying. I see this supposed “rape” as being used as a ploy so that maidens could empower themselves. In Sicily one way of escaping an overly domineering family, was by eloping with your sweetheart. If you had spent the night with the guy, then you had to marry him as it was assumed that you had been “raped” or had sex. This was a way of preserving the honor of the lady in question. Of course the lady had nothing to do with this, being sweet an innocent as she was…

So both versions are more or less the same. They both describe the process of life, death and rebirth. Persephone is one of the few female examples a resurrection deity, as most of them are male. Examples include: Jesus, Khrishna, Dionysus, Osiris, Orpheus and Odin. The only other female example is Inanna or Ishtar which brings us to the original Sumerian version of the Persephone myth, Innana & Ereshkigal.

For now I would like to look at the differences between the Greek and the Roman versions of Persephone by looking at both discovery charts. I do try to keep things simple and I think if you want to see how the Persephone archetype works in your chart you should first examine the relationship between Ceres, Eris and Pluto. Also Pluto with Venus or Mercury. I have a suspicion that Transpluto could describe the process of becoming whole and enlightened which is really what resurrection is all about.

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posted February 17, 2014 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Proserpina and Proserpine turned out to be two different things. I thought they were the same, or are they really same?? According to my astro software proserpine conjuncts my ASC. It is given under virtual object which means it might be a Uranian object? #retromercurystrikes
According to astro.com’s chart, fortunately/unfortunately Proserpina conjuncts my DSC by less than a degree, so I guess I really am sweet and innocent... .

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posted February 17, 2014 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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