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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 26, 2014 10:45 AM My mother's Moon/Sado is exactly conjunt my Neptune. Please, help me with insights. It is hard to see when it is myself. Thank you ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 151 From: Registered: Aug 2013	posted February 26, 2014 11:33 AM Disclaimer: I don't know/remember specifics about your relationship with your mother. Personally, I would attend primarily to the Moon-Neptune aspect. I'm sure you're familiar with them, but here are two short/practical interpretations of the hard aspects: http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!moon-neptune-aspects-in-synastry/c1n79 http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.com/2011/03/moon-neptune-synastry.html#.Uw4Voc7y2sM I have a hard time thinking that the Sado asteroid actually represents sadism, even though I "get" why some consider that to be so. I'd be more inclined to go with the origin of the name, which is Japanese. If I did believe it represented sadism, I'd be most concerned about where it lies in my own chart. Is there a history of misunderstandings, emotional deceit and manipulation, possibly going both ways, with your mother? Hope this helps a bit... IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 26, 2014 11:53 AM Thanks Deliah I don't really see it going both ways, not when a child has to deal with a sadistic parent. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
DaniPepper87 Moderator Posts: 1603 From: Curitiba, Brasil Registered: Sep 2013	posted February 26, 2014 11:58 AM Well, I always see Neptune as a planet that blinds you. If planets or asteroids touch it, this can be that you could'nt see clearly that your mother was that way.... IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 26, 2014 12:24 PM quote: Originally posted by DaniPepper87: Well, I always see Neptune as a planet that blinds you. If planets or asteroids touch it, this can be that you could'nt see clearly that your mother was that way.... Thank you, Dani. That is exactly right. I was blinded. What is the situation from her side? Thanks, Sweetie! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 151 From: Registered: Aug 2013	posted February 26, 2014 01:17 PM Ami, If you had to deal with a sadistic parent, I can pretty much guarantee you that you learned to manipulate and deceive in order to survive. And will still be inclined to revert to that behavior in times of stress. That's not a criticism of you; it's just how things work, regardless of astrological placements. IP: Logged
crabbypatty Knowflake Posts: 819 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 26, 2014 04:12 PM maybe your Neptune on her Moon/Sado made it easier for her to not perceive you as a "real person with feelings", so that doing what she did became more feasible in her warped mind. In other words, maybe she saw you as less than human? I know that's a stretch, and I know that otherwise she is an intellectual, so maybe this is just psychobabble on my part, but I'm trying. Anyway, no excuse for what she did. I cannot even imagine. I shudder when I hear about parents tying their kids to radiators, putting out live cigarettes on them, beating them until they bleed. That's bad enough. Reprehensible. But I sort of get it, how if you're unevolved and have rage issues, a kid could spark that in you. But I don't get what your mother did. Simply incomprehensible. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 26, 2014 04:51 PM quote: Originally posted by crabbypatty: maybe your Neptune on her Moon/Sado made it easier for her to not perceive you as a "real person with feelings", so that doing what she did became more feasible in her warped mind. In other words, maybe she saw you as less than human? I know that's a stretch, and I know that otherwise she is an intellectual, so maybe this is just psychobabble on my part, but I'm trying. Anyway, no excuse for what she did. I cannot even imagine. I shudder when I hear about parents tying their kids to radiators, putting out live cigarettes on them, beating them until they bleed. That's bad enough. Reprehensible. But I sort of get it, how if you're unevolved and have rage issues, a kid could spark that in you. But I don't get what your mother did. Simply incomprehensible. Yes, that makes perfect sense, Crabby. You are so brilliant. I was a fog( neptune) I was not real. Wow Crabby, thank you so much. I knew if I asked you guys, I would get insights. Thanks so very much. Crabby dear. Since this is my thread, I can hijack it. Tell me what is going on with you since we have not caught up by phone! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 26, 2014 04:55 PM You know, Crabby, now that I think of the planet person conjunct the Neptune person, I am trying to feel it out. So, could we say the Neptune would not SEE the planet person clearly. The planet person would see the Neptune person in a fog, not as a real person. Amazing because this sums up my childhood. The charts never lie and will reveal all with enough time ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 55 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted February 26, 2014 05:24 PM Hi Ami, good to have you back. I'm not keen on asteroid but I think the Sado/Moon conjunction is a personal aspect (potentially ingrained in the natal chart) and it is activated by her Moon conjunct your Neptune. To say that you wake that aspect up. Not sure if I'm expressing it well. So to me it comes down to the Moon conjunct Neptune. Neptune and Moon is an emotional, spiritual aspect, let's not forget psychic too. Neptune blinds because he tend to go with the flow, to live in a perfect world with no friction. In that way it provides a safe haven for the sensitive Moon. But that is safety no guaranteed and honestly it'd be a burden for a child to make her parent feel safe. You used to make your mother feel safe until the day her Moon saw past your Neptune, feeling put out and betrayed and that was when the Moon/Sado kicked in. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 26, 2014 07:40 PM Wow Tulipe Yes, it is nice to be back! Can you please explain again in simpler terms because it seems really profound but I am missing some of it. Thanks so very much, Tulipe dear You can bump your chart in the Beginners Forum, if you want, also! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 55 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted February 27, 2014 06:12 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Wow Tulipe Yes, it is nice to be back! Can you please explain again in simpler terms because it seems really profound but I am missing some of it. Thanks so very much, Tulipe dear You can bump your chart in the Beginners Forum, if you want, also! Sorry Ami, my imagination ran wild. It's what Neptune does, he feeds imagination. So what I want to say is Moon-Neptune is a love aspect, you each can easily tune in with the other's emotions, and that's why the damage is so profoundly felt. The planet person sees Neptune through her imagination. If it's a dreamy Moon, it can be ecstasy. When reality creeps in, it can be too painful for the Moon person to accept. I don't know exactly how she treated you, but if the Moon/Sado shows sadism tendency, then I speculate that she sees it as self-defense mecanism, and you sees it as punishment for your love. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 27, 2014 07:08 AM Do you mind if I pick your brain a bit because you are saying profound things that hit me? ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 27, 2014 07:19 AM The planet person sees Neptune through her imagination. This makes total sense ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 27, 2014 07:20 AM Tulipe Lets say the Moon person has a cold Moon like Libra that has an an exact opposition to Chiron which makes her phobic about even feeling her own emotions. How would you factor this in. So, the Nep person idealizes the Moon/Sado person. The OTHER wrinkle is the Nep person has her Moon conj the Moon/Sado's North Node. The Neptune person was supposed to bring heart and soul to the Moon/Sado person. For the Moon/Sado person, she does not see the reality of the Neptune person. She can morph her into anything cuz Neptune clouds. My mother was super jealous of me like she was of her sister. She would call me her sisters name, by accident. That is one reason that jealousy is scary for me, now, but I am dealing with it by realizing it won't kill me. Is this what you meant, Tulipe? Thank you again for your help and please add anything else you can think of xxx ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 55 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted February 27, 2014 09:24 AM No Ami, I don't mind at all. Glad that I can help you a bit, my Moon in Virgo needs to be of service ^^. Now from what you say, your mother have Moon opposite Chiron. Does she have problems with her body, like people find faults with how her person is? I think your Neptune conjunct her Moon makes her sees you as another vulnerable being like her, and focus on curing you. You can't make her see the real you because Neptune doesn't give enough grounding and Chiron makes it too painful for her acknowledge her issues. You both cling, she because she longs to be healed by healing you, and you because you sense this need but in the end, you both feel inadequated. I hope you'll find peace. Much love to you, Ami, you have helped so many people, you deserve your happiness. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 27, 2014 09:30 AM Aww Tulipe Could I add some more info? Her Pluto conj my Mars, exact Her exact combust of Mercury and the Sun conjuncts my Chiron exact in the 4th house. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 55 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted February 27, 2014 10:11 AM Oh Pluto and Mars. There are astrologers who would say Mars is the servant of Pluto, consider both co-rule Scorpio. But Pluto is still Pluto, he is the one who calls the shot, in this case can we say Pluto drag Mars through hell and back, and Mars goes willingly? I had a feeling your Chiron'd be affected too. I remember you have Chiron trine Venus, when you associate love with pain, you'd cling to painful relationships. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 27, 2014 10:33 AM Thank you, Tulipe dear. I may come back and ask you more later. Did you want me to do more work on your chart in the Beginners. If so,please bump it. I am gonna study my synastry some more and be back for more of your insights. You are a doll! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 55 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted February 27, 2014 01:34 PM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Thank you, Tulipe dear. I may come back and ask you more later. Did you want me to do more work on your chart in the Beginners. If so,please bump it. I am gonna study my synastry some more and be back for more of your insights. You are a doll! Ami, it's alright, I got caught up in your asteroid threads, I may pop up a few questions in some of those threads . ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
crabbypatty Knowflake Posts: 819 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 27, 2014 05:55 PM Ami dear I wrote a very long reply here yesterday and the site lost it because it doesn't have someone with my user name ....baloney ! so in frustration I abandoned the effort ! will email you though . IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 27, 2014 06:07 PM Thank you Crabby I am so sorry you lost it ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 27, 2014 06:08 PM I am gonna come back with some more aspects, Tulipe, later or tomorrow. It is hard for me to even look, really. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Gabby Knowflake Posts: 2799 From: Registered: Sep 2012	posted February 27, 2014 06:46 PM Ami, I left a response on your other thread regarding the aspects you asked about!! IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52867 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted February 27, 2014 06:51 PM Thank you, Gabby. I am so, so touched. Love you ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged

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