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amelia28
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posted March 15, 2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 15, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Interesting. I am Jewish so look forward to this subject

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Hebrewu 271763
Essene 133243
Cohen 23735
Last 2 are genetic lines that potentially could be from Christ blood line...of course it all speculation!
I would think biblical cities might be checked out also!

Essene--
Since the archaeological discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1946, the word "Essene" has made its way around the world--often raising a lot of questions. Many people were astonished to discover that, two thousand years ago, a brotherhood of holy men and women, living together in a community, carried within themselves all of the seeds of Christianity and of future western civilization. This brotherhood--more or less persecuted and ostracized--would bring forth people who would change the face of the world and the course of history. Indeed, almost all of the principal founders of what would later be called Christianity were Essenes--St. Ann, Joseph and Mary, John the Baptist, Jesus, John the Evangelist, etc.

The Virgin Mary was born as an Essene; she had grown up among the community and had even performed the role of the temple dove. She was loved and recognized in the fraternity. Several had prophesied about her, proclaiming that she would give birth to a son of God, a great Master.

Cohen-
Cohanim (plural of Cohen) are the priestly family of the Jewish people, members of the Tribe of Levi. The books of Exodus and Leviticus describe the responsibilities of the Cohanim, which include the Temple service and blessing of the people. The Torah (the first five books of the Bible) describes the anointing of Aaron, the brother of Moses, as the first High Priest (Cohen Gadol).

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posted March 15, 2014 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps:

Israel 7507


Edit:

Israel is in my 9th house and squares approaching by 4 orbs chart ruler jupiter in the 12th house and squares approaching uranus in the 12th house by 5 orbs.

Israel also squares approaching Chiron by 2 orbs.

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posted March 15, 2014 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woody Allen:

Israel sextile approaching 2 orbs MARS.

Hebrewu semisextile Exact approaching SUN.

Essene Sextile approaching Moon

Essene Semisextile approaching Mars

Essense inconjunct approaching pluto


BUT NO hard aspects or conjunctions! so IDK.

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I wonder about Bibi Netanyahu with these. If anyone wants to check, it would be fascinating. I can't do it right now. I am sorry.

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posted March 16, 2014 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe:

(3673) Levy
(2076) Levin
(6909) Levison

Levy, Cohen and Israel are specifically Jewish surnames. http://www.jewfaq.org/jnames.htm
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/tribes1.html

Can someone tell me, orb for asteroid-asteroid conjunction and what house is related to ancestry/lineage/ethnicity?? Only 4th?

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To add to your levite theme...
(3566) Levitan
(6710) Apostel
(3808) Tempel


Here's another one I love....

(199) Byblis

Byblos was the ancient Phoenician port city of Gebal (called Byblos by the Greeks) on the coast of the Mediterranean sea in what is, today, Lebannon. According to the historian Durant, “Byblos thought itself the oldest of all cities; the god El had founded it at the beginning of time, and to the end of its history it remained the religious capital of Phoenicia."
Because papyrus was one of the principal articles in its trade, the Greeks took the name of the city as their word for book - biblos – and from their word for books named our Bible - ta biblia - which means 'the books’. Byblos is among the cities listed as candidates for the distinction of `oldest city in the world’ as it has been continuously inhabited for over 7,000 years.

The city began as a small fishing village called Gubal or Gebal while the coastal region of the land, which the Greeks named Phoenicia, was known to the inhabitants as Canaan. By 3000 BCE the little village had grown to a prosperous city through trade. The cedars of Lebannon were highly prized by other countries for use in construction and Byblos became the single most important shipping port for timber to Egypt and elsewhere. Byblos was also the first city to perfect ship-building and it is largely due to the craftsmanship of the shipwrights of Byblos that Phoenicians acquired their fame as sailors and "princes of the sea" (as they are referred to in the biblical book of Ezekiel). It was primarily through trade with Egypt that Byblos grew so incredibly wealthy. The Egyptians flooded Byblos with material wealth but also with aspects of their culture and religion.

In the famous Egyptian myth of Isis and Osiris, Byblos is cited as the city where Isis located the body of her dead husband in the trunk of a tree which had grown around him after his murder by his brother Set. The Phoenicians of Byblos also exported their own tales concerning religion and it is thought that the stories surrounding war in the heavens and an eternal battle between a great god of good and another deity of evil grew out of the Phoenician myths concerning the eternal war between Baal (god of the sky) and Yamm (god of the sea). This myth may have come from the Egyptian tale of the war between Osiris' son Horus and the dark god Set or transference may have gone from the Phoenicians to the Egyptians. The tale of the war in heaven related in the biblical book of Revelation bears many similarites to both these much older myths in the same way that there are many motifs in the Bible borrowed by the scribes who wrote it from earlier tales of other cultures. So closely knit were the ties between Egypt and Byblos that some historians and scholars have claimed that Byblos was almost an Egyptian colony.

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posted March 16, 2014 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:
Woody Allen:

Israel sextile approaching 2 orbs MARS.

Hebrewu semisextile Exact approaching SUN.

Essene Sextile approaching Moon

Essene Semisextile approaching Mars

Essense inconjunct approaching pluto


BUT NO hard aspects or conjunctions! so IDK.



I would check asteroids, DNA, Soulie, Spirit, Aura, Alma, Psyche and the Draco chart and Draco/tropical synastry.

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posted March 16, 2014 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have RH negative blood which is supposedly the blood type of the Essene people...or it's from Aliens? There is a few theory's out there.
I have these placements, you could look up some of these to see if you get any hits.....
Neptune saggy@11.15
Draco Saturn saggy@11.05
Levison saggy@11.18
Apostle saggy@12.32
Temple saggy@12.32
(9172) Abhramu saggy@11.55
Spirit aqua@12.08
Amend aqua@11.31

Pluto libra@11.05
Draco Sun aries@12.33
Draco Mercury aries@11.53
Levin libra@11.38
Discovery libra@11.37
Urda libra@11.33
Walhalla libra@10.57
Sara libra@13.22

Aura cancer@27.07
Gaea cancer@27.14
Helio Saturn cancer@27.30
Byblis cap@27.55
Draco Moon cap@26.52
Raabe aqua@21.34
Essene leo@21.04
Levitan taurus@23.27
NN scorp@21.44
Michel scorp@21.26
Magnamity scorp@21.41

Mars gemini@29.33
Virtus gemini@29.25
Cohen aqua@29.00
Akashi libra@29.13
Qumran scorp@0.42
Draco Essene saggy@29.20
Hyperborea cap@1.19
Porta Coeli cap@1.28
Galilea cap@1.43
Agapenor cancer@0.22
Wisdom aries@28.56
Helio Hebrewu aries@29.53
Draco Vertex leo@29.30


Draco Jupiter leo@23.19
Giza gemini@23.43
Raphela gemini@23.43
Chaldea aqua@22.27
Prosperpina aqua@23.04
Eureka aqua@23.14
Ur gemini@25.34
Siva saggy@22.48
Sumeria aries@22.30

Tropical Destin libra@21.34
Trop Vertex aries@21.23
Trop Essene leo@21.04
Trop Telephus gemini@21.44
Helio Coventry libra@21.41
Draco Sara aqua@21.38
Draco Abrhamu aries@20.09

Helio Abhramu,Temple, Apostle, Levison fall on my tropical DNA

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According to Bishop Ussher’s 17th century chronology Abraham lived from about 1996 BC to 1821 BC. He is mentioned by both Matthew and Luke in their genealogies of Jesus.
Matthew wanting to set Jesus in history and also to prove his Jewish lineage traces the line back to Abraham, while Luke, writing from a Gentile point of view, goes on through Abraham to Adam.
Abraham was born in the city Ur of Chaldea, in what is now modern day Iraq, but left there with his family and eventually settled in what is now Israel having traveled as a nomad west along the fertile crescent because he felt this was what God wanted him to do, eventually reaching the land God had promised to him and his descendents. Jewish tradition says his father was an idol maker and Abraham destroyed the idols.
Formerly called Abram, his name was lengthened at the time of God’s covenant with him.
He is revered for his faith in one god, monotheism, at a time when polytheism was the norm, by members or the Jewish faith and by Muslims, both of whom claim him as their ancestor through his two sons Isaac and Ishmael and also by Christians who see him as a spiritual ancestor. Muslims believe that he and Ishmael built the ancient site of Mecca, their holy city. Altogether this means that some 3 billion people place importance upon this one man. Although a great man of faith he also had his failings. He did not doubt God’s plan , but unsuccessfully tried his own way to achieve it. The book of Genesis traces his story, and that of his family, in detail from chapter 11 to 25.
His wife Sarah was sterile and he was an old man when God made a covenant with him and promised that through him would come a great nation. He tried to do this with his maidservant, but eventually, though Hagar did have a son, it was through Sarah and her son Isaac and his son Jacob that the twelve tribes of Israel came into being. Abraham had many difficulties and at times made some wrong decisions, but ultimately was a man of great faith as is acknowledged by the writer of Hebrews in chapter 11 who says that Abraham was faithful because God was faithful to him.
In his lifetime trade was conducted using fixed weight s and measures, cuneiform writing was being engraved into clay tablets, the Babylonian kingdom was founded by Amraphael, Cheops ruled Egypt and in China the silk industry began an d the bronze age began there also. On Crete the Minoan palaces were being built. At about this period horse became domesticated for the first time and the first farmers settled in Kenya.

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I discovered I had Israel Leo 2'23 and
Sara Leo 2'38 conjunct my Sun Leo 3'16
in the 9th house

Essene Capricorn 20'58 conjuncts
Saturn Capricorn 21'9 and
(107)Camilla Capricorn 21'24 in the 3rd house

Essene opposes Chiron Cancer 20'24,
(100)Hekate Cancer 20'3 and
(26)Proserpina Cancer 20'38 in the 9th house

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posted March 16, 2014 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 16, 2014 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(1546) Izsak
(533) Sara
(9172) Abhramu
(24520) Abramson
(3009) Coventry
Yeshuhua, Mary, Maria, Jesse also would be revelant...

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posted March 16, 2014 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
asteroid Esther.

622 Esther http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther

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I have jewish ethnic background bc of my grandfather.

I have Esther conjunct by 3 orbs my Saturn in the 11th and my DNA. Saturn in the 11th conjuncts exact DNA.

Israel in the 9th squares my chart ruler Jupiter by 4 orbs and also uranus. Israel also squares by 2 orbs approaching my Chiron.

I am suppose to have a sephardi ethnic background.

I wonder if Esther is Sephardi??

Add:

Byblis TRINE EXACT APPROACHING SATURN IN THE 11th..

Seeing a pattern here involving my saturn exact conjunction with DNA.

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posted March 17, 2014 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:

Here's another one I love....

(199) Byblis

Byblos was the ancient Phoenician port city of Gebal (called Byblos by the Greeks) on the coast of the Mediterranean sea in what is, today, Lebannon. According to the historian Durant, “Byblos thought itself the oldest of all cities; the god El had founded it at the beginning of time, and to the end of its history it remained the religious capital of Phoenicia."
Because papyrus was one of the principal articles in its trade, the Greeks took the name of the city as their word for book - biblos – and from their word for books named our Bible - ta biblia - which means 'the books’. Byblos is among the cities listed as candidates for the distinction of `oldest city in the world’ as it has been continuously inhabited for over 7,000 years.

The city began as a small fishing village called Gubal or Gebal while the coastal region of the land, which the Greeks named Phoenicia, was known to the inhabitants as Canaan. By 3000 BCE the little village had grown to a prosperous city through trade. The cedars of Lebannon were highly prized by other countries for use in construction and Byblos became the single most important shipping port for timber to Egypt and elsewhere. Byblos was also the first city to perfect ship-building and it is largely due to the craftsmanship of the shipwrights of Byblos that Phoenicians acquired their fame as sailors and "princes of the sea" (as they are referred to in the biblical book of Ezekiel). It was primarily through trade with Egypt that Byblos grew so incredibly wealthy. The Egyptians flooded Byblos with material wealth but also with aspects of their culture and religion.

In the famous Egyptian myth of Isis and Osiris, Byblos is cited as the city where Isis located the body of her dead husband in the trunk of a tree which had grown around him after his murder by his brother Set. The Phoenicians of Byblos also exported their own tales concerning religion and it is thought that the stories surrounding war in the heavens and an eternal battle between a great god of good and another deity of evil grew out of the Phoenician myths concerning the eternal war between Baal (god of the sky) and Yamm (god of the sea). This myth may have come from the Egyptian tale of the war between Osiris' son Horus and the dark god Set or transference may have gone from the Phoenicians to the Egyptians. The tale of the war in heaven related in the biblical book of Revelation bears many similarites to both these much older myths in the same way that there are many motifs in the Bible borrowed by the scribes who wrote it from earlier tales of other cultures. So closely knit were the ties between Egypt and Byblos that some historians and scholars have claimed that Byblos was almost an Egyptian colony.


Wow Thanks.

Saturn/pluto/DNA/Esther stellium Trined by Byblos.

Horus conjunct exact approaching Sun in virgo in the 10th.

I have sephardi spanish background coming from my grandfather.

"After their expulsion from Spain, more Sephardi and Karaite Jews began to emigrate to Egypt, and their numbers increased significantly with the growth of trading prospects after the opening of the Suez Canal. As a result, Jews from all over the territories of the Ottoman Empire as well as Italy and Greece started to settle in the main cities of Egypt, where they thrived."

My ancestry perhaps has both jewish and egyptian plus spanish....a mix of things.

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posted March 17, 2014 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Wow Thanks.

Saturn/pluto/DNA/Esther stellium Trined by Byblos.

Horus conjunct exact approaching Sun in virgo in the 10th.

I have sephardi spanish background coming from my grandfather.

"After their expulsion from Spain, more Sephardi and Karaite Jews began to emigrate to Egypt, and their numbers increased significantly with the growth of trading prospects after the opening of the Suez Canal. As a result, Jews from all over the territories of the Ottoman Empire as well as Italy and Greece started to settle in the main cities of Egypt, where they thrived."

My ancestry perhaps has both jewish and egyptian plus spanish....a mix of things.


I found a conjunction to Esther also...

Mars gemini@29.33
Virtus gemini@29.25
Cohen aqua@29.00
Akashi libra@29.13
Qumran scorp@0.42**Esther scorp@0.56
Draco Essene saggy@29.20
Hyperborea cap@1.19
Porta Coeli cap@1.28
Galilea cap@1.43
Agapenor cancer@0.22
Wisdom aries@28.56
Helio Hebrewu aries@29.53
Draco Vertex leo@29.30


Have you looked up asteroid Sheperd?
Mine falls on my Karma in my 12th house, only 4 degrees from my AC.
Ok don't laugh here, but I also looked up asteroid Sheepman n found it's sextile my Sara.

Neptune saggy@11.15
Draco Saturn saggy@11.05
Levison saggy@11.18
Abhramu saggy@11.55
Apostle saggy@12.32
Temple saggy@12.32
Sheepman saggy@13.46

Spirit aqua@12.08
Amend aqua@11.31

Pluto libra@11.05
Draco Sun aries@12.33
Draco Mercury aries@11.53
Levin libra@11.38
Discovery libra@11.37
Urda libra@11.33
Walhalla libra@10.57
Sara libra@13.22

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I have a feeling I have Esther someplace prominent.

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I found a t-square between these biblical women
Bishop virgo@10.04
Bathsheba saggy@8.18
Deborah pisces@8.11
Hagar gemini@9.19(Ceres gemini@9.20)
(1120)Canonia virgo@7.18
Atlantis taurus@7.21
Church cancer@7.03
Sphinx virgo@6.45
(2046)Leningrad virgo@6.43
Bless cap@6.24
Skuld cap@5.42
Records virgo@4.46
Hypnos virgo@4.44
Izsack taurus@4.47
Uranus scorp@4.44


"Canonical criticism, sometimes called canon criticism or the canonical approach, is a way of interpreting the Bible that focuses on the text of the biblical canon itself as a finished product. It has been made popular by Brevard Childs, though he personally rejected the term.
Whereas other types of biblical criticism focus on the origins, structure and history of the text, canonical criticism looks at the meaning the text in its final form has for the community which uses it."

The Leningrad Codex (or Codex Leningradensis) is the oldest complete manuscript of the Hebrew Bible in Hebrew, using the masoretic text and Tiberian vocalization.[1] It is dated AD 1008 (or possibly AD 1009) according to its colophon.[2] The Aleppo Codex, against which the Leningrad Codex was corrected, is several decades older, but parts of it have been missing since 1947, making the Leningrad Codex the oldest complete codex of the Tiberian mesorah that has survived intact to this day.

Conjunct on my Angel/Rudra
Rebeka cap@18.07(opposed Israel cancer@19.29)
Martha cap@16.11
--sextile--
Rachel scorp@15.34
Magdelena scorp@17.49

12th hs. Moon virgo@18.32
Pallas pisces@17.52
Klotho pisces@18
Vesta pisces@20.02

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posted March 17, 2014 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have a feeling I have Esther someplace prominent.


Are you going to let's us know??

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There's a Greek myth tied to Byblis. Haha I don't know how to read that.

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I have Hebrewu opposite my north node and conjuncts my moon exactly which I thought was interesting. It trines Juno too. DNA trines my Hebrewu also. Essen conjuncts my Venus.

Oh, and Saturn opposes Byblis. Saturn is to do with Karma somewhat, right?
I'm not Jewish in this life, but maybe I was in my last one. Or married into it.

Anyhow, nice topic- it's really interesting to think that astrology could even indicate stuff like this.

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Fruity, those are some awesome aspects!! Very potentially showing past lives, how do they aspect your Babylon, Yeshuhua, Magedelena....n other bible figures?
Maybe also look things like Apostle, Temple, Godin, Godwin, Coventry...

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