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posted March 23, 2014 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What could this possibly mean? I am not too familiar with asteroids and would like to learn more. Pallas is also conjunct Mercury in Leo as well for anyone wondering.

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Leo Sun
Scorpio Moon
Capricorn Rising
Leo Mercury
Leo Venus
Sagittarius Jupiter
Pisces Saturn
Capricorn Uranus
Capricorn Neptune
Scorpio Pluto
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posted March 27, 2014 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can i have a reply please? lol

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Leo Sun
Scorpio Moon
Capricorn Rising
Leo Mercury
Leo Venus
Sagittarius Jupiter
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Capricorn Uranus
Capricorn Neptune
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posted March 28, 2014 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this same placement, it includes Vesta/Pallas/Klotho but in my 6th house and in pisces, exact opposed my Moon.
I've never found a lot on this aspect but I know it's very meaningful, merging 2 beautiful energies into one, creativity, devotion, sexuality, wisdom, logic, intelligence, spirituality and intuition all coming together....how could it not beautiful!

Vesta gives an idea how you express your sexuality.
Pallas is ways you use creativity to solve problems.
I'm trying to think where I saw it, but I'm pretty sure it was the Dhali Lama that has this same conjunction, I'll try to find our for sure though, I'll post it if I can find it again.


Here's some copy/paste info found on the net....

Vesta in Fiery Leo is the Queen/Priestess/willing to give all for love and heart connection. This Vesta carries creativity, passion, power and a strong willfulness within its sacred energy. Vesta in Leo is proud and gives from the heart and soul and can sometimes be caught in the lessons of pride, and must learn what she can do and what has to be handed over to a higher power than herself.

Pallas in Leo represents a creative perception that is especially strong. One 'sees' in terms of how one can impress one's unique vision upon the world. As a healer, Pallas works with art therapy, psychodrama, play (sand tray) therapy, dance therapy, and stress reduction through pleasure. Pallas in Leo people crete through drama, acting, performing, courtship, and romance as an art form, and through solar inventions. Individuals with Pallas in Leo have charisma and the ability to stand up in the public eye as a front person fora causes, and to sway the masses through political comedy and darma. The wisdom of Pallas in Leo is the wisdom of the Creative Impulse that vies birth to new forms of expression.

Pallas in Leo: It's SHOWTIME! This tends to be a creative placement and is very good for anyone in the arts. But in any profession, things will be arranged and problems solved in dramatic, attention-getting ways.

Pallas Athene conjunct Vesta
You are intelligent, creative and devoted to a spiritual vision or a social cause. You may forego traditional marriage in order to devote yourself to your spiritual path or your profession. Probably very career oriented and concerned with social justice and promoting the arts, you are probably a healer in some way. If you do marry it will likely be a bond based upon shared values and mutual respect. You may choose to avoid intimacy, feeling it will undermine your commitment to ideals.


In astrology, the asteroid Pallas represents applied intelligence: the intersection between intellect and action; the ability to apprehend cause-and-effect and karma. To the mind she grants intellectual rigor, impartiality, and the ability to employ the mind in the manifest world. To the field of action she grants ethics, strategy, and methodology. In her full splendor she is the fierce protector of truth, logic, freedom, and peace; when she is compromised, soon follow deception, violence, tyranny, and war.

As the go-between between thought and action, Pallas is an integral part of conscience: the capacity to translate into action what one knows to be true. Mercury without Pallas is an ineffectual intellectual without the capacity to apply his thought to real life. Mars without Pallas is a dumb brute.

Pallas rules wit and weapons, the art of war and the wisdom of nonviolence, the consensual anarchy of the market and the crushing centralized order of the gulag. Pallas brings illumination and clarity to the world of the mind and competence to the world of action.

Wisdom herself, the startling power of Pallas in the astrological chart is seldom looked-for but unmistakable once understood.


PALLAS, POLITICAL IDEOLOGY, AND ETHICS

The placement of Pallas on the natal chart can indicate with precision the native's attitude with regard to the use of force or violence. She is a very reliable indicator for a native's inclination towards non-violence or violence, cooperation or force, peace or war. For this reason, she is both an indicator for political ideology as well as for pacifist or criminal tendencies. I support this assertion with several hundred examples of natal charts of persons from across the political and ethical spectra in Political Ideology in Astrology.

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posted March 28, 2014 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pallas Aspecting Mercury: The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, or trine) are excellent for solving problems and communicating the solutions so that they will be accepted. This is an excellent position for anyone who has to work with words for a living (I have the sextile myself). The stressful aspects could indicate difficulties in communicating the results of your problem solving and pattern recognition. The house and sign positions will indicate the areas where this would be the biggest problem.


The mental-creative principle combines with the intellect. This combination greatly heightens the creative intelligence symbolized by Pallas.

Harmonious aspects depict strong creative-intellectual capacities. These individuals often display power and skill in the use of words and the communications media. They may be adept in the arts of mediation, negotiation, affirmation, and positive thinking.

Stressful aspects signify potential blockages in one's ability to reason, create, and verbally express one's ideas. This aspect may point to learning problems or to perceptual, auditory, or mental dysfunctions.

The resolution of these challenges lies in aligning one's rational faculties with the creative-impulsive so that one can successfully communicate one's original ideas.

The conjunction and harmonious aspects: Conversation in which one is reserved / strategic; Mind and Mouth co-operate in finesse; to have excellent 'mental peripheral vision'; to get along with others but to keep one's aims in mind at all times; strategic, thoughtful, perceptive communications / ideas / news.

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posted March 28, 2014 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pallas has been associated with the sign of Leo since the 1970’s, but Demetra George extends this energy to include Libra and Aquarius in a trilogy of two air signs and one fire. As Pallas uses sexual creative energy to create mental children, she brings together the qualities of air and fire. George states,

“Pallas Athene’s essence thus lies in the interplay between the creative impulse of Leo, the transpersonal social concern of Aquarius, and the balance and cohesion of Libra.” (7)

I tend to see the inclusion of two more signs as an expansion of the Goddess’ energy, as it continues to awaken within our collective psyche. If we remember that Pallas Athene is but one face of the great Goddess and that her origins may reach back into the Neolithic period (and can be connected quite clearly with Neith), it is not surprising to find her energy beginning to penetrate more deeply into the Zodiac itself. Ironically, all three signs – Leo, Libra, and Aquarius – are masculine signs, which seem to suggest that Pallas continues to resonate more deeply with the masculine, perhaps still somewhat blind to her roots, but working her magic nonetheless.

Pallas Athene Keywords

If we had to select one keyword to use to describe Pallas’ energy, Perception (8) would be the one to choose. She can see whole patterns and has the foresight and planning
capability to achieve concrete, practical results in the real (material/tangible) as well as spiritual world. The flash of insight of Uranus (Aquarius), the sturdy building of foundation of Saturn (Ancient ruler of Aquarius), the balancing and harmonizing of Venus (Libra), combined with the Sun-force energy of Leo (as well as the brilliant light emanated by Jupiter, her father) creates a being, a Goddess, who can not only see all sides but also peer deeply into the internal as well as external world and see all. Because of her deep insight, Pallas is able to use both positive and negative polarities in a creative way. She can accomplish the most using the least amount of energy while weaving together seemingly incongruent bits and pieces until she arrives at the whole (or the conclusion). Pallas’ energy is expansive and encompassing in the sense that she is capable of and willing to use all available abilities, materials, and opportunities to create, strategize, and formulate. She can be viewed as a conservationist…nothing is wasted; all is conserved and reused or transformed into something else. Other keywords we could assign to Pallas are Transformation, Manifestation, Regeneration, Evolution, Creation, Activism, Healing, Prophecy, Efficiency, Wisdom, Counselor, Diplomat, Courage, and Justice.

Pallas Athene in our charts symbolizes the process of the evolution of consciousness. Her placement in an individual chart is a sensitive point where we can become more consciously evolved. The sign, house, and degree placement of Pallas represents the richness of our inner soil…it is here where we can plant our seeds and watch them grow, or not. If our soil is not fertile (blocked by difficult planetary energy we haven’t yet integrated and worked through), we will have an extremely difficult time manifesting the life we wish to live and attaining the height of creation and regeneration we seek. In other words, we will not be able to transform ourselves without a great deal of preliminary Soul work. If our soil is naturally rich and we come into this world with a well-placed Pallas, we will have an easier time on our path if we are aware and able to use the energy of Pallas Athene. It is impossible to say whether a person is using their Pallas just by looking at their birth chart. You must have in-depth conversation with them and become a witness to their story in order to discover how they are using – or not using – Pallas’s creative polarity and potential.

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Julia Child-Pallas in Leo

Pallas in Leo expresses perceptions and insights with great drama, style, and charisma. A prominent Pallas knows how to impress others, which can be one's gift to the collective or for self-acclaim. Under stress, the personality may be over-the-top, exaggerated, or seem too needy for recognition. Harmonious aspects enhance creativity, performance, and popularity.
personality. As befits her Pallas personality, Julia Child excelled in fields ordinarily reserved for men, including sports and as an OSS officer during World War II.

On November 3, 1948, Julia received a vision that would change her life. The scene is replicated in the movie Julie & Julia, and describes her first French meal as a revelation. From that day forward, she would devote herself to French cooking. At the time, her progressed Mercury (the ruler of her chart) was conjunct her progressed Pallas. Here we see a clear merging of a vision with personal identity.

Over the next few years, her progressed Mercury and Pallas would conjoin natal Mars, energizing her new life plan. During this time, Julia mastered the art of French cuisine and started a cooking school. On February 11, 1963 she kicked off her television career with The French Chef, and from then on, endeared herself as America's most famous TV chef. Her progressed Pallas at the time was sextile Neptune, the natural ruler of film and video.

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Grace Kelly-Vesta in Leo

Vesta in Leo focuses on creativity and self-promotion. One works best when goals offer a sense of pride and accomplishment with appreciative feedback. Under stress, this placement can become too arrogant or aristocratic. Favorably aspected, this placement illuminates personal relationships with a sense of playfulness, and in the workplace, inspiring others to achieve success.

Juno trines Vesta in Kelly's natal chart, undoubtedly helping her portray such roles as a graceful heiress, a serene socialite, and a princess. However, with Vesta under much developmental pressure from more challenging aspects, she couldn't give up her
career to get married. She carried on romantically with many of her co-stars, never allowing herself to become distracted from her film career.

However, all that changed when she met Prince Rainier of Monaco. The two were married on April 18, 1956 as her progressed Sun and Vesta were precisely trine to each other. But was she really happy in this new role? She died in a car accident on September 13, 1982 along the same stretch of the road where she filmed To Catch a Thief with Cary Grant. At the time, transiting Vesta opposed her natal Vesta.

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posted March 28, 2014 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"Vesta in 7th house"

assumes responsibility for success or failure of relationships. They give themselves for others even when the people are not closely related. There is denial of fulfillment through others."

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"Points to a dedication to working on one's relationships. Yet, because Vesta strives for self-sufficiency and independence, conflict may arise when seventh-house compromise and co-operative efforts are required. Often this person will become overly focused upon or obsessed with his or her primary relationship."

"Pallas in 7th house"

The tendency with Pallas in the 7th house is to attract marriage and business partners who are good at recognizing patterns, solving problems, and arranging things. But it frequently happens that the person with Pallas in the 7th house finds it easier to do these things when there is someone else around. The other person doesn't even have to say a word. Just having another person there will make it easier for a Pallas in the 7th house person to solve problems and see patterns.

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