posted May 11, 2014 06:06 AM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Oh my, you should have started showing the CONJ between Horus/ASC!

These are your major hidden aspects in my opinion:

-Sun CONJ chaldea, very interesting
-Giza CONJ atlantis, you probably have a very ancient soul.
-DNA CONJ chiron + Mars in detriment + Moon in the 10th house - Sooner or later women will help you in your career, but you should avoid a routine job and maybe your close relatives tend to overwork themselves. (DNA conj chiron in Virgo)
-Wisdom CONJ Excalibur (you need iQ input in that one)
-Mercury CONJ pallas in the 7th house - strong intellectual ego and possible awakening of the pineal gland when meeting your soul mate. (Also venus in the 7th house + Moon in house 10) - Wife will be very important in your life.
-Karma CONJ osiris, strong masculine divine energy. But it is in the 6th house, not sure what does it mean.

*From my personal experience, any [b]RETRO Asteroid CONJ ASC means:

~ There was something here so long ago, but you should not go back there ~
That's when you have to take a look to your North Node (the reason you are here) - The Anaretic degree of Libra (29º) -

*** I know you are quite young, but you should know some important things. ***
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According to masonic knowledge, HORUS is related to this:

Horus is also related to the latin words: SOLVE ET COAGULA ( Isis + Osiris = Horus )
(3,4,5)

*Capricorn is quite different from Libra. I'm almost sure you MUST leave your Horus energy behind in this incarnation.
You came to this life with that energy, but you don't need it anymore.(retro)
That knowledge, if not used properly, may be very dangerous - consciously, you must leave it behind in order to be a more evolved being.
Because it's not wise doing the same in every incarnation, a virtuos cycle may turn into a vicious one.

*Take a look to the sabian symbol for your ASC and Horus, then look at the sabian symbol for your North Node. You will have the 'Eureka' feeling.*

*And why am I telling you this?* Because your natal chart is very similiar to my friend's. (I call him 'being' now) - Oh my, Why do young people have such interesting charts?

Well, It's quite funny!
He has ASC CONJ Egyptian asteroid retro in an Earth sign just like you.
He has Venus in the 7th house just like you
He has Moon in the 10th house just like you
He has been in GIZA and Atlantis just like you.
You have strong relation with GC, he has with GA
You have Osiris conj Karma - He has Osiris conj Siva.
Your Horus retro is in CAP + NN in Libra (different energies) - His Amenhotep retro is in Taurus but NN is in AQUA!

Oh and I forgot, Sirius CONJ your DC. Quite interesting.
What I know is what I've learned from my real experiences.
*This person I'm talking you about has (2069)Hubble CONJ(8958)Stargazer CONJ Descendant and Pluto -
*This conjunction make a Trine with Kaali and Sirius. (yes, just a trine) I'm 10 years older than him, and I realized the 'kind of people' he attracts since he was 15 years old.
*He (unconsciously) only attracts women with strong Kaali (How strange?) like Sun CONJ Kaali or Pluto CONJ Kaali - What does it mean? I don't know.

Since your Sirius is CONJ your DC maybe that applies to you as well.

Here's the thread about this 'person' I started months ago: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002784.html
You can borrow as much asteroids as you want, I bet some of them are present in your chart too.

Have a Good Day!
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P.D. You have Jupiter in the 11th house, this can only be product of good Karmas
Also a packed 7th house.[/B]

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Giza conjunct Atlantis conjunct galactic center? Boy that's quite an aspect. I think I might have even lived on Atlantis as well. Yes I think the Sun conjunct Chaldea and Angel aspect says a lot but I don't know what it says! I read somewhere on another thread that chaldea conjunct sun meant I was an apprentice of a Chaldean Mystic or something akin to that. conjunct Angel is something else entirely. I also noticed spirit is conjunct DNA and chiron as well and Anubis is in exact opposition to my Scorpio moon.

What does Horus energy imply? I know just from observing my chart and the way I am, that I almost certainly was a shaman/mystic/priest in more than one of my past lives and I'm also pretty certain I had contact with extraterrestrials as well. My current life goal is to basically be a music shaman once again (DJ in the EDM scene) and lead the masses I play for into a higher vibrational state of spirituality. Raves are very spiritual places and group consciousness forms very easily. I actually had a mystic experience with Source/God last time I went and actually "ascended" for a bit while I was there.

posted May 11, 2014 08:13 PM            

technically I did just talk about orbs and the NN not hitting Arcturus, although I get your comment if you've seen a pattern of behaviour. I imagine mine come off more leaning toward rude with my phrasing of things at times, curtness not being the right word given my verbosity, but still. I tend to lean more toward getting facts or theories out of the place than making nice a lot of the time, and of course there are the impatience-moments when things rub you wrong, so the best anyone can hope for is that people curb their worst and try to behave? Not aiming this at Leorpio, btw, more general commentary.

I wouldn't know about super-amazing aspects in my case but there are interesting things enough to also be able to say join your "I'm pretty ordinary as well". (For now at least. ;P ) I get asking questions and wanting answers and if Leorpio & others get more clues or helpers it helps others try and go further from their aspects, too.

Case in point: I have a Regulus Tutenchamen-Sun, Ubasti-Cardinal-Priestley-IC around the SGC, Horus-Church opp GC, this and that in small ways. I don't know about psychics but the first time I heard about a past life from one it was straight off "Hello, in this life seen you're on a continent older than Atlantis and there the equivalent of hundreds of years old to us, age working differently" for me. As one does. Apparently. I wasn't laughing my head off but that's pretty much the main thing you can do with things like that until you know what practical THIS-Life use something like that might be. Whether there was talk of healing in some way or not or however possibly old "I" would supposedly be, I don't know if it makes much of a difference "IRL". I'm amused enough to obviously tout it here for something like this since what else are you gonna do, "woman saying she'd never met anyone else like that" clout and all, but it doesn't make my current being or present this or that for the most part.

And whether old or not, I think the place is fun, loads to go for it ("so why would you wanna leave?" style) and plenty probably to do if talking Earth. I didn't always, but come on, what's wrong with it (that couldn't be sorted if just doing it)? I'm pretty sure things like that vary and change so you can be old and feel tired and the next moment feel less tired. No value judgement, again, whether "old" or "young" and tired or less so. Is what it is? What should be great is the opportunity to go on some more still, whether here or later on somewhere else. Old or young, always something more out there still to come?

Besides, if you're that "old" and still hanging around here, there's as if a couple of options. You're possibly here to help since you know a bit more to do so as well and wanted to still hang around here for one reason or another - OR in the slow learners class and taking your time getting anywhere, possibly having screwed up or burnt a couple of lives off somewhere freeloading instead of doing anything useful. Slacker Class of -25750 BC represent, aiight? Keepin' it reeel. Word to ya mutha. Whatever kind of alien she once upon a time was or wasn't.

Also believe that you hear or learn what you need to when you need to. If you need something, you'll get it when you need it. If you don't know something, do you really need to either? Does it for sure help, or is it just going to make you focus on that instead of what you could be doing and getting on with? Does it make that much of a difference "what" you are if you're here to help (as everyone presumably should or would be, one way or another, sooner or later) and can do that whatever you are?

All that when I'd _love_ to hear if I'm this or that fancy thing, of course. Tell me all about everything, I absorb knowledge like a sponge. I'm just not sure it'd help ME personally that much on practical levels. Hence presumably not being told much either. *shrug*

Again personally it'd seem more useful to have something in charts or wherever point toward a practical skill set or talent, a how to and where to instead of what or where from. I have Asclepius between Kaali and Destinn (and trine Atlantis) but also tons of other things, so is that enough to say that healing would definitely be it? Can't know, just suggestions or guesses if you're talking these kind of glances at charts.

posted May 11, 2014 08:48 PM            

.. if we've done something like this before, my condolences if I continue to be an ass about all this.

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
All I know is that I am an Old Soul and can even feel the tiredness of my soul. I've seen so much in my lifetimes that literally almost nothing surprises me. ... I have a mission to do here and it nags me every day, I just want to know my background first.

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posted May 11, 2014 09:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Keela:

Case in point: I have a Regulus Tutenchamen-Sun, Ubasti-Cardinal-Priestley-IC around the SGC, Horus-Church opp GC, ..........
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Besides, if you're that "old" and still hanging around here, there's as if a couple of options. You're possibly here to help since you know a bit more to do so as well and wanted to still hang around here for one reason or another - OR in the slow learners class and taking your time getting anywhere, possibly having screwed up or burnt a couple of lives off somewhere freeloading instead of doing anything useful. Slacker Class of -25750 BC represent, aiight? Keepin' it reeel. Word to ya mutha. Whatever kind of alien she once upon a time was or wasn't............

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Ha Ha

Btw, those aspects definitely qualify as ones that amaze.

Yeah! There's no big deal in being old. More of an embarrassment in my view, although iQ tried to put a positive spin on it here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001836.html
Besides, if the Hindu theories of reincarnation are to be believed, the cycle of going back to source and then being emitted as new baby souls continues ad infinitum. So we all would be old or young depending on where one pinpointed in that cycle, give or take 10,000 years.

posted May 11, 2014 09:55 PM            

In regards to being old/ young, it really has to do with your souls evolution and desire to become closer to source/god, as well as like you said, coming back to teach. I agree though that earth is a fun place and I think I'll stick around for a few more life times to help people raise those vibrations of theirs

posted May 12, 2014 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Ha Ha

Btw, those aspects definitely qualify as ones that amaze.

Yeah! There's no big deal in being old. More of an embarrassment in my view, although iQ tried to put a positive spin on it here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001836.html
Besides, if the Hindu theories of reincarnation are to be believed, the cycle of going back to source and then being emitted as new baby souls continues ad infinitum. So we all would be old or young depending on where one pinpointed in that cycle, give or take 10,000 years.

Perhaps more depressing than embarrassing!

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posted May 12, 2014 05:41 AM            

And you know why? Because indiference and society create the worst monsters.
People like Mark David Chapman never got the attention and advice they wanted. So, they tried to be remembered committing crime (He said it a lot of times). Go figure.

-That's why I always blame society and earth signs for the monster they create. Especially Capricorn's energy. Yes, Capricorn. Its energy is so according to the "rule", so structured, so sequential, so respectful, it's soooo down to earth, they cannot comprehend idealistic, romantic way of thinking. They are so father-like.
Behind every rule in soceity, there will be always the energy of Earth signs.
And if any of you don't take this seriously it's because you don't understand the Great Wheel (Zodiac) and I'm telling you this no matter how more skilled than me you are.

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That's why I always listen to people when I have to, no matter how big or small in society you are. No matter how polite, wise or ignorant and arrogant you are.
My little advice will be always there for you.
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-Leorpio
I believe that one of the most present aspects in you is the conjunction between Horus(R) and ASC, I said "leave your Horus behind" but you didn't get it. I want to think It's MY fault.

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
But I can't help that I'm very hungry for answers! Not to be one of those astrology-explainers-away

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If that's so, you may be in the wrong forum.
And maybe I was too indulgent. Let me tell you that you are totally from Earth.
*But certainly, you are related to teaching but you are not good at it(Chiron). And I'll tell you why.

-There's no prominent fixed star in your NC
-Your Kaali(retro) is actually weak (Kundalini), even Pluto is retro.
-But the best evidence that you are from Earth is the fact that your need for recognition is more than evident.

Giza and Atlantis are not enough to believe you are "Starseed", because those are "place Objects" and they are RETRO, there's quite a difference between a retro and a direct object, even an asteroid. Many people here can confirm that, not only me. It's not the same a Sado retro than a Sado direct or an Angel retro/ Angel direct. Anyway, even so your NC is quite interesting.

With Chiron (co-ruler of virgo) in conj with DNA and Spirit:
Somehow the art of teaching and spirituality are strong in your genes, but you have a wound here also. You may think that Aristocracy and public recognition are related to true knowledge and spirituality, that's the wound you have to heal.
This particular way of thinking may come from your mother's bloodline. (Moon in scorpio in the 10th house).

And your 4th house(Home/family) is totally Taurus like. Do you see my point?

You've proved that you have a very strong need of recognition, you are so "I wanna be somebody" You are so "I feel like the chosen one" that's so Horus-like. That's why I told you to leave your horus behind, I think you've been feeling this way in almost every incarnation, that's totally an earthling behavior.
*That's why you are still here.
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***Ok, What I'm going to write here will confirm what I said above. I feel happy now, because when I saw this placement I knew I was doing the right interpretation. I've got the "Eureka" feeling ***
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I'm gonna forget asteroid Karma for now, basic astrology can explain this pretty well.

Saturn is the most Karmic object in a natal chart + knowing which is the sabian symbol for your ASC, It's easier to know HOW do you start this incarnation, what kind of activities relate to you since you were born, and what kind of Karma you are "carrying" from your past incarnations.

(Saturn retro in pisces - 2nd house)
Pisces is a very interesting sign/energy. Its positive side is related to forgiveness, empathy, faith, etc.
On the other hand, its one of the most deceiving signs, not neccessary a liar sign, but it hides the truth, quite often pisces hides the truth behind empathy, faith, religion, hidden business, etc.

Saturn in pisces, but in the 2nd house. Opposite chiron, spirit and DNA. It totally confirms what I said before.

With this placement you were related to religion/believings, spirituality and knowledge in your past life, but you deceived yourself and deceived everyone around you.

You claimed so much times you were "the bringer of truth", you claimed so much times you were "close to God", and it was in an "aristocratic" context, the more material success you had, the more enlightened/spiritual you claimed to be. (2nd House)

You also lacked of self-affirmation. You followed what it was written, you repeated what others said. And your knowledge did not come from your own, it came from a deceiving matrix. (Is it the reason you were born as a Leo in this life?)

If you open any history book, you'll realize that money/power/believings are totally related. That's a totally HUMAN behavior. It works perfectly to deceive the masses, to gain power and position, to be "somebody".

Let me tell you that no Guru, no Rabi, no Ascended Master, no Starseed have the need of recognition. Not even a little bit.

*Did you even take a look at the sabian symbol for that Horus retro? I'll do it for you.

PHASE 281 (CAPRICORN 11°): A LARGE GROUP OF PHEASANT ON A PRIVATE ESTATE.

The Keyword is ARISTOCRACY.

While your NN is in the 30º of Libra. Sabian symbol says:

(LIBRA 30°): THREE MOUNDS OF KNOWLEDGE ON A PHILOSOPHER'S HEAD.

Literally says:
A true philosopher is a man who is able to "understand," not merely "know"

-Please read yourself.

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
In regards to being old/ young, it really has to do with your souls evolution and desire to become closer to source/god, as well as like you said, coming back to teach.

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I found it funny, because that's your Karma(Saturn) speaking. What kind of misinformation is that?
That's one of the most deceiving quotes I read in a long time.
Don't make fun of yourself, you start to sound just like Joel Osteen. Very business like.

Beware of what you say, the more you deceive (consciously or unconsciously), the more bad karma you create.

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
If you know you who are and where you came from then you can use it as a shield and protect yourself with it instead of letting others use it against you.

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If you are THAT afraid of other humans, then you are one of the most earthy beings this world have seen.
At this young age you already know how a deceiver's mind work.
It's funny, because what you said it's exactly what you did to ignorant people in your past incarnations.

How do you expect to teach spirituality when you are so blind that you can't even see straight?

Please, read yourself again.

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
If I were you, I wouldn't put much stock into all of the aspects of hinduism, even if they're pretty close to what (most likely) is. I wouldn't come back unless humanity really needed it.(If you haven't, I'd recommend looking into the life of Edgar Cayce and what his revelations have brought us.)

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So, you don't trust Hinduism, but you trust this man that was born in 1877. And He was a Pisces Stellium (included Saturn and NN), his Moon falls in your 4th House - Taurus, He was a Leo rising and his MARS is in the 11th degree of Capricorn (And we already know which is the sabian symbol for that degree, right?), it conjuntcs your Horus, exact. Coincidence?
You are falling in a "cyclic trap" just like Karma is, doing the same again and again.
So... the question is: Was this man a deceiver just like you were in your past incarnations? Anyway, I can't confirm it, not today.

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Ok, I'm done. (*phew*)
Enough LL for today.
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Have a good day everyone!

posted May 12, 2014 02:23 PM            

Isn't it funny how truth often comes in the most unexpected ways? Just last night after I wrote all of that, I had an epiphany that I can only thank spirit guides for. I got a tarot card from a psychic on oranum. What was the card? Denial. It occured to me immediately that I was in denial of how i have been living and had far more negative, almost evil behaviors than I would like to accept. I take more than i give, and its just now hit home. Lots of bad karma had piled and the feeling that this life is meant to wipe the slate clean is what really pervades me. So willingly perceptive of other's problems yet so willingly blind to my own...I just need healing man. and its so hard to find it because everything now has a price tag, and value is the thing I struggle to get. Gembird, you've allowed me to grasp in words what was only barely perceived, and that I feel goes beyond little "special look at me" posts. Isnt it funny how my own dark secrets are revealed to me on the day of the full scorpio moon? This stuff is too crazy to make up.

posted May 12, 2014 04:52 PM            

I'm also so not Earth you have little idea. Virgo's the flightiest of Earth and there's only two planets there, all 2H-3H. Taurus SN and 2nd house Sun make for some more no doubt and to my surprise I recently got told I was very grounded compared to some other people at a fair thing, but yeah, never used to do this "What is this earth you speak of?" thing earlier either. "To infinity and beyond" more so if you ask teens.

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
Keela - to give your Earth view its Fire complement: ... Without the proper mindset in place, you will get nothing done regardless of physically practical things.

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posted May 12, 2014 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Btw, those aspects definitely qualify as ones that amaze.

Yeah! There's no big deal in being old. More of an embarrassment in my view, although iQ tried to put a positive spin on it here...

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Thank you. Not sure if they amaze (again compared to some other things seen), if not "I'm amazed there's so much church/religion related stuff all over my chart when I've never been particularly _church-religious_ by form" amaze. I've read enough of the Starseed posts to note them here though, as apparent. Ubasti-IC got all the more funny after someone posted about using Bastian for Bastet likewise, my having Bastian-Ubasti BOTH there - when they don't seem to move in sync like some other asteroids (Horus-Echnaton). For whatever it's worth, cats generally always like me. Including the ones who don't like strangers or climb up all over them or spend ages on anyone's lap. I'm calm and don't infringe or make an excess fuss (even if attending to their highnesses) so I get a pass?