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amelia28
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posted May 27, 2014 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Share you pholus or orcus stories in general...Have you felt it in progress, in synastry or via transit or natally and how????

I found the following information online:

The Myth of Pholus

Pholus, considered a wise and gentle Centaur, guards the centaurs' vineyards (and their wine). Pholus was mortally wounded by an unexpected coincidence, being punctured by a poised arrow he was removing from Chiron. As the story goes, Heracles was visiting Pholus in his cave on Mt. Pelion. After coercing Pholus to open a sacred vessel of wine he was keeping for the other Centaurs, the rest of the Centaurs became angry and arrived to Pholus' cave. Heracles accidently hits Chiron with a poisoned arrow while shooting at the angry Centaurs. When Pholus finds Chiron dead from a mere arrow, he removes one of the arrows form a Centaur to see what made the Centaur die, and accidently allows its poisoned tip to puncture himself, which also kills Pholus.

In this light alone, it might be worth watching tendencies to help others that may be wounded or in dire trouble, but at the cost of unexpectedly and severely hurting self, even mortally.

It is suggested by Robert v. Heeren und Dieter Koch, Pholus (German) that Pholus brings an unusual ability, or an unexpected experience or gift catalyzing profound or radical change.

Based upon the myth of Pholus along with its orbital cross-resonances with Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Orcus and Pluto, it would seem that Pholus offers healing aid, through unexpected events (Uranus) or in a shroud of confusion or commotion perhaps involving drugs (Neptune) and / or helping one to make passage through veils and illusions (Neptune) to fulfill their soul oath, or greater life purpose (Orcus); and if need be, to ultimately discard that which is superfluous to one's greater purpose or life journey (Pluto).

Fitting with the above, I have found strong indication during a Sun-Pholus conjunction and the death of a loved one that Pholus gently and compassionately helped one "mortally wounded" make passage in a seemingly mysterious or shrouded way, obscured to most except to one observant to such mysteries, in a way that might not otherwise have occurred without an "apparent" confusion surrounding an introduced medicinal agent (the arrow alone is not sufficient), which seemed to have facilitated what otherwise would have been a prolonged and painful death. This passage was clearly in the greater interest of the souls involved (Orcus)--and in this case, freeing the mortal lives of two eternally entwined souls.

The Pholus-Saturn-Neptune-Orcus-Pluto orbital relation may also suggest seemingly fated events, but with reasons obscured until after they occur, one's that may yield a greater revelation, ideal, dream, vision or dissolution in to the unknown. Pholus may help us cross from the concretized world of Saturn and cross the veiled / hypnogogic dream world of Neptune to enter the realm of our souls' true purpose (Orcus); and if so requirer, bring us to the door of ultimate transcendence offered by Pluto--certainly this Centaur's journey.

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amelia28
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posted May 27, 2014 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I have pholus in the 5th and T-Uranus is entering my 5th and in early 2016 will conjunct my natal pholus...

I currently have pholus conjunct exact my IC in progress as well and venus and mars entering my 8th in progress. Also T Uranus is 3 minutes away from Progress pholus conjunct IC and should conjunct IC exact in 2016.


My sex life with my husband is better so I am thinking that this is Uranus entering my 5th and perhaps venus/mars entering my 8th in progress. Frequency is still the same but quality is a lot better and I know is bc of this new energy that I feel and bring to our interaction.


So

Progress venus/mars entering the 8th

Progress Pholus conjunct IC exact and T Uranus 3 minutes away from this progress conjunction.

T Uranus in natal entering my 5th.

I guess I am specially curious about pholus conjuncting IC...

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amelia28
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posted May 27, 2014 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm so cappy
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posted May 27, 2014 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For some reason Orcus doesn't show up in my chart :/

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amelia28
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posted May 27, 2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
For some reason Orcus doesn't show up in my chart :/


90482

That is odd........try again later

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 27, 2014 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found it but when I do the chart it's not there.

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