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Topic: Hate asteroid in first house?
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IV XXIV Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 06, 2014 11:13 PM
What could that mean? I'll put my chart here in the event that I'm reading it wrong. Please don't quote
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SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2438 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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posted June 07, 2014 12:00 AM
? I don't see any asteroid listed here... you have added the star Hasseleh (a star in the foot of "the charioteer" Auriga constellation; or one in the bull's horn) - Rigel is right beside it as well... but, they are stars. There's nothing of great significance showing for you in relation to either of these stars/constellations though. - Only sxt with Mercury and a near conjunct with your South Node. *shrug* Besides, Hasseleh is generally pretty favourable to share aspects with. Perhaps you speak just that much more eloquently than the average Aries Mercury for having this aspect, that you give a good, strong, intellectual-type first impression to folks, or your insights are that much more valued for having this aspect, slight as it is. More interestingly you have your Moon (and other aspecting bodies) near the Pleiades though. That's usually more peculiar in the more eclectic astrology branches today, the connections to the Pleadian cluster and whatnot. ^^; IP: Logged |
IV XXIV Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 07, 2014 02:53 AM
I'm sorry but can you further explain (in layman's terms) what your last paragraph means? Lol it sounded like another language! Thank you though IP: Logged |
starlitroad Knowflake Posts: 754 From: Saturn vs. Moon Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 07, 2014 04:02 AM
I am guessing Saturnine meant: You have your moon near the Pleiades,The Pleiades is a cluster of stars, in the Taurus constelation. It contains several bright stars, like Alcyone Atlas Electra Maia Merope Taygeta Pleione Celaeno This cluster is the most near earth cluster u'll ever find..I am guessing that is why it is near your moon. I have alcyone conjunct sun. The electic astrology, could mean the one that makes a system based on several opinions, thus including fixed stars, astroids, planets and so on. You will find old description of these PLEIADES , but are rather dark ,you must find the modern connotation to it:) and see if it fits with you. hope it helped somehow ^^ IP: Logged |
IV XXIV Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 07, 2014 02:46 PM
All I'm finding of Pleiades are astronomical explanations and mythological explanations. I can't seem to find anything relating to a natal chart or its meaning IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 3798 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 07, 2014 11:14 PM
I see the Hasse (German word for "hate") aspecting your Chiron very meaningful... Maybe it is very obvious to others that you hate the things that create a particular type of pain, the kind of pain that created your deepest wound. That's an aspect that could create a person who hates abuse so much they are seen as someone who fights against it and tries to prevent it from happening to others.I'll look more closely..... Leo Chiron in 4th, pain in childhood that traumatically affected your self esteem, your ability to feel you matter and should be treated with respect and appreciated for the ways you stand out, your ability to know your value was deeply impacted. IP: Logged |
IV XXIV Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 07, 2014 11:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I see the Hasse (German word for "hate") aspecting your Chiron very meaningful... Maybe it is very obvious to others that you hate the things that create a particular type of pain, the kind of pain that created your deepest wound. That's an aspect that could create a person who hates abuse so much they are seen as someone who fights against it and tries to prevent it from happening to others.I'll look more closely..... Leo Chiron in 4th, pain in childhood that traumatically affected your self esteem, your ability to feel you matter and should be treated with respect and appreciated for the ways you stand out, your ability to know your value was deeply impacted.
Thank you! I actually don't think I added the correct asteroid. When I added the numerical for Hasse, I saw that it was actually in my 10th house (I'll post below). Still have no clue what that could mean lol. You are correct with the second half of your post, though.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 3798 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 07, 2014 11:28 PM
Erida- 718 She is the "Goddess of Hate" Might check her out, I bet if you look up some asteroids like Compassion, Virtus, Conscience, Magnamimity, Solidarity.....etc, etc you might find your hate asteroids make positive aspects which would indicate your hate is something that righteous or a positive hate. I bet some of your loving care asteroids will positively aspect your Hate asteroids....look at Amor, Phillia, Agapenor, Valentine are good ones to look at also.IP: Logged |
IV XXIV Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 07, 2014 11:32 PM
Got Erida in Gemini in the 1st lmao. I have a feeling this is all gonna be a mess IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 3798 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 07, 2014 11:36 PM
Lol... Look how the positive asteroids aspect! IP: Logged |
IV XXIV Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 07, 2014 11:44 PM
Okay so I put them all in but I have no idea how to read it. Would you mind possibly reading it for me? I'm sorry if I'm asking for a lot. Thank you though for all you've already helped with!
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GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 08, 2014 01:15 AM
^ Well, ALL I can see is the fact that sooner or later you will get involved in business/big corporation and or secretism. MC 29º Cap *But there's a contradictory aspect there, because ruler of MC is in hard aspect with Pluto. Hmmm... (?) Also, ASC opp Pluto. You migth have to face strong enemies in your career. You need to avoid hidden enemies and toxic people. Success can only be achieved if you have good relations with workmates, always try to find peace, don't date your workmates. Venus 12th opp Jup in 6th*Help from your family will be always there, even if you don't like some of your relatives. Ruler of 4th house is in 1st house in benefical aspect to Mars +[Sun(own will, yourself) square Mars in 4th + chiron unaspected in 4th] Even if there was pain/tension in your childhood (past)(chiron), family will be there for you. You have to heal some ego problems and develop maximum confidence. Chiron + MC + North Node in Sagi confirm this. -Good Day. . P.S. That fixed star and/or asteroid does nothing to you, don't get paranoid about meaningless problems (your mercury 12th is talking instead of your own will) AND IF IT DOES, then it will be related to what I said above. 4th and MC possible problems, nothing more - nothing less. ------------------ ~Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour~
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IV XXIV Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 08, 2014 02:45 AM
Wow thank you Gem for your response, it was really appreciated! I have one question, though; I'm actually going to school for medicine (pre-med) and as of now, that's where my passion is. I have noticed that I have business-like skills, especially because I've only worked in sales/retail positions, but I was really set on being a doctor. Do you see anything about that? Thank you again!IP: Logged |
starlitroad Knowflake Posts: 754 From: Saturn vs. Moon Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 08, 2014 04:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by IV XXIV: All I'm finding of Pleiades are astronomical explanations and mythological explanations. I can't seem to find anything relating to a natal chart or its meaning :(
Here u have an article,its somewhere bellow- to the celebritites section I told u, these descriptions are from ancient times and VERY negative, the ones that count, are the last ones,bcz it seems from our times: as you- for the moon- "someone with an interest to the darker aspects of life" http://darkstarastrology.com/pleiades/ IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 08, 2014 01:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by IV XXIV: I'm actually going to school for medicine (pre-med) and as of now, that's where my passion is. I have noticed that I have business-like skills, especially because I've only worked in sales/retail positions, but I was really set on being a doctor. Do you see anything about that? Thank you again!
Well, what can I say? It's well known that house 12th rules hospitals and other interpersonal 'places'. With Venus there and aspecting jupiter in 6th, I'd say that predisposition and skill (Mercury) are certainly there. But I have to make emphasis about confrontation and enemies. We all have to deal with confrontation at some point in our lives. People like you need to make things "clear", always. If a conflict/problem is unavoidable, don't make hidden rivals/enemies. ~If you do, the sleeping high-tension between Pluto and Saturn(Ruler of 10th) might awake. Hence, hidden enemies may try to... let's say, "affect" your career. ~If you are the kind of person that is very emphatic (12th), then some people may think you are fake, that you are lacking authenticity or genuineness. That's why I always say that empathy is like a two-bladed sword, is a double weapon. It may take you out from a hole, but it may lead you to a deeper problem too, you need to be wise to know when/how you react and face problems through empathy. Because in a work/study environment, some people is unavoidable. And that's not astrology, just a real life-fact. **That's the meaning of your chiron in Leo. You need to develop more self-confidence, EVEN if you already have it. You need to heal yourself in order to heal others. Because, being authentic means you are being faithful to internal values, that's the best way to avoid hidden enemies. ~Good luck and have a good day! . Oh, it would be nice if you change the orbfact in astro.com // Maximum 75%, because orbs are too wide by default. Hence, there are some high-tension aspects that are not even present in you. ~Bye ------------------ ~Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour~ IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 08, 2014 01:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by starlitroad: http://darkstarastrology.com/pleiades/
"dark star" astrology... Info from 'ancient times', Seriously dude? Don't want to be rude but, it looks just like disinfo, or at least for me, it does ------------------ ~Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour~ IP: Logged |
IV XXIV Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 08, 2014 02:25 PM
Gem, thank you so much! That was very kind of you Star, I will take a look at the article. Thank you! IP: Logged |
starlitroad Knowflake Posts: 754 From: Saturn vs. Moon Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 08, 2014 03:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by GemBird82: [QUOTE]Originally posted by starlitroad: http://darkstarastrology.com/pleiades/
"dark star" astrology... Info from 'ancient times', Seriously dude? Don't want to be rude but, it looks just like disinfo, or at least for me, it does :) [/QUOTE] No, I am not disinforming IV XXIV. I actually mentioned earlier that the article is an interpretation from ancient times, and is rather dark...so It should be re-interpreted in our modern times. For example if IV XXIV has pleiades near moon and there it says stabbs and injuries to the face, also misfortune and at the end " interest in occult/dark aspects of life"- it is clear that the last info is the one to think about. Don't worry, I am not offended. & I am used with such reactions ( I have sun& mercury opposite pluto, haha- I am a strong individual, ofc I get reactions from what I post,lol.kidding.halfway) You can give it a look too,if u want. It cannot do any harm :) Everything with a pinch of salt. IP: Logged |
starlitroad Knowflake Posts: 754 From: Saturn vs. Moon Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 08, 2014 03:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by IV XXIV:
Star, I will take a look at the article. Thank you!
You're welcome! ^^
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