posted August 13, 2014 03:15 PM              

I am going to collate bits I find here, till we have enough for a comprehensive write-up for the Ref Library. Hopefully, people will also contribute.

There are a few of these Ref Library threads cooking at the moment.

@ LeeLoo, it would be great if you could write a piece on the key differences between Valentine and Cupido. I'm looking forward to your Cupido thread. Valentine, too, would be better off being written by an astrologer. So, if you or anyone else would like to take charge at any point do let me know.

Meaning

Asteroid Valentine resonates to the frequency of Saint Valentine who represents sacrifice for the sake of love

The instinctual and instant urge to sacrifice, that needs Valentine.

"Valentine is about romantic love (based on IQ`s research)...Valentine really is not shallow at all; IQ once called it "unconditional love", and personally I`d add that spice of romance-flavour to it...VALENTINE seems to have too much depth to be only about infatuation. (Ceridwen)

posted August 13, 2014 03:33 PM              

Valentine conjunct Valentine

This would eliminate plenty of negative Asteroid aspects in synastry but may not be able to cancel any harsh Saturn-Mars or Saturn-Venus aspects. (iQ)

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His VALENTINE conjunct her Sun when her Sun has no other aspects with his planets:

Q: Would that mean that he probably doesn`t "get" her on a solar level, as they are very different, so there is no personal similiarity here in terms of temperament/ outward expression, but at the same time the Valentine aspect indicates that he likes her nevertheless. Sort of a "I don´t really understand you/ You are so different from me and how I see the world, but I love you still" vibe? (Ceridwen)

posted August 13, 2014 03:43 PM              

VALENTINE opposed JUNO would be a marker for a conflict between ideal love after the relationship starts versus the qualities in the lady as a wife. (Where VALENTINE is conjunct ANGEL and LUST) ANGEL and LUST are permission from OverSoul Level for a very sexually charged life but the conflicts have to be overcome.

VALENTINE sextile JUNO is positive, a marker for strong communication of the attractive traits to increase love in the relationship.

VALENTINE conjunct LUST means he will be sexually turned on when you express your true love to him.

VALENTINE conjunct VALENTINE and AMOR conjunct AMOR -
If two people have this placement and chance to meet, they will be helplessly in love from first sight and will make the happiest couple possible, even if there are several harsh aspects. The bond of love is stronger than all bad aspects lumped together.

Valentine-Valentine and Juno-Juno conjunction. A very rare combination that produces the most intense love and desire to be each other's spouse/mate/soul mate.

Valentine (Trine) The most important love aspect is satisfied. Indicates a happy and harmonious love. Along with Amor trine, lilith trine, Aphro trine and Juno opposition, this can indicate a happy marriage.

What does it mean if your Valentine is conjunct your partner's Pluto and your Chiron is conjunct their Amor?...Valentine conjunct Pluto means obsessive and passionate love that can even cause wars. Think of Menelaus, Helen and the Trojan War. He "truly loves" (Valentine) her personality, her value systems and her limitations/mental structure.

posted August 13, 2014 04:27 PM              

Valentine/Mars would also bring a bit of sexual attraction into the romance. If Valentine is female and Mars is male, she would probably love and be romantically attracted to the way he expresses his sexuality, too.

Valentine/Saturn- karmic love; in negative aspects possibly a blocking of love-vibes.

Valentine/Uranus - sudden love; love at first sight

Valentine/Neptune - spiritual love, yes. A lot of compassion and empathy. Valentine would experience it in a more personal way probably; might even seem as an "ideal love", but I don´t like the harsh aspects between Valentine and Neptune. The romance factor is high, but it may not stand on realistic ground, and sometimes the love may simply dissipate due to the fact that Valentine might feel Neptune is too elusive and denying the manifestation of their love on a day-to-day-level. Neptune doesn`t want to hurt Valentine, but often cannot give them what they need. Sometimes Neptune may be downright dishonest, though.

Valentine/Pluto: obsessive love, yes. Very deep love yes. Love that transforms. (Ceridwen) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000827.html

Valentine conjunct Pluto means obsessive and passionate love that can even cause wars. Think of Menelaus, Helen and the Trojan War. (iQ)

posted August 14, 2014 03:38 AM              

Valentine conjunct Venus shows when you romantically pursue a person you genuinely care for them, the Valentine influence adds a Neptunian flavor to your Venus. Your more idealistic about love, genuinely more compassionate and empathetic but it could have the tenacity of emotionally draining you. (iQ)

VALENTINE conjunct LUST means he will express his love to his beloved through sexual passion, seeking to please her more and more sexually.

REGULUS conjunct VALENTINE Keywords:
Royal Love, highly evolved love, past life true lover of a King or Queen, will love someone with Royal Blood or will marry someone who was a queen in the past lifeline.

Valentine conjuncts your vertex: This might indicate a great appreciation for divine order and divine intervention; the apparently fated events in life that have caused changes of direction and set you (or others) on new paths or journeys of discovery. (Micisa)

posted August 27, 2014 12:02 PM              

Valentine by house, sign and ruler seems to provide a very accurate description of that which one finds most admirable, most aspirational and values most highly in life.(Micisa)

LEO
Valentine is in the difficult 29 to 30 degree. Your way of expressing true love is like an unsealed letter, you want your loved one to freely and fearlessly read your thoughts and emotions you feel towards her.
You have the magnetic appeal to enable this communication of true love because of the Leo sign for Valentine.

posted August 29, 2014 03:53 PM            

I can't separate love from sexuality and if I don't love someone to the point I'd die for them, they can't turn me on at all. Sex isn't worth the effort without being in love and deeply bonded because it feels boring and empty to me.
I would prefer to go without sex for years rather than have a ex with someone I'm not in love with.

posted August 30, 2014 10:38 AM            

any info on synastric Valentine conjunct Amor?

posted August 30, 2014 11:27 AM              

I've only copied and pasted so far, in my role as the resident magpie .

Athene offered an interpretation for natal Valentine conjunct Sun above, which may apply to you too.

posted August 30, 2014 08:41 PM            

My Venus conjunct his Valentine less than 1 degree, which are also contra parallel
My Saturn conjunct his Valentine by 1.5 degrees
My Valentine widely trines his Venus by 4 degrees, squares his Pluto by 1 degree, and squares his Jupiter by 2 degrees
My Valentine is parallel both of our Mars' which are also conjunct by 5 degrees, and out of bounds

We also have exact Sun trine Amor DW

The Amor contacts are really weird, because my ex of 14 years has his Sun on the other guy's Amor, exactly opposite my ex's Amor. My ex's Sun is on Sirius, also on me and the other guy's composite Venus.

With my ex.....
My Valentine squares his Mars 3 degrees, squares his Saturn 1 degree, and conjuncts his Neptune 3 degrees
His Valentine conjuncts my MC by 1 degree, and is also parallel my MC
His Valentine also sextiles my Jupiter by 1 degree

posted August 30, 2014 10:49 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
Thanks, AK

Ive been reading another thread this morning and IQ's take on Amor-Valentine conjunction is that Amor , loving unconditionally, would offer their life to be taken instead, while Valentine reaction would be to stand in the way of the bullet.

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posted October 02, 2014 03:38 AM            

Hard to say if it's just one thing since I have other influences
Constantia 8 Virgo
Eurydice - 8 Virgo
MC/VE mp - 8 Virgo
MO/SA mp - 8 Virgo
my Mars & Amor 8 Taurus

Man that 8 degrees is like a magnet! It is always there in my love at first sight, "I know you!" soulmate connections...

Valentine/Vesta conj Venus/Vesta - brief flirtation, platonic friend
Valentine conj Mars - longtime male colleague
Valentine conj Sun/Mars - longtime love
Valentine conj Vertex - ex boyfriend
Valentine conj ASC & Eros/opp Moon - exact (Father)
Valentine conj Psyche - Mother
Valentine conj Mercury - old best friend who was a writer (coincidentally)
Valentine conj Mars/Uranus (siblings)
Valentine conj ASC & their Valentine 13 Virgo - niece/nephew
Valentine conj Valentine & Vesta - best childhood friend/female
my Saturn & South node conj her Valentine, my Valentine opp her Moon - other best childhood friend

Valentine/Vesta conj her MC & trine Moon, her Valentine conj my Saturn/South Node/MC - close female friend
Valentine conj Valentine & Vesta & opp Moon- great college friend/female

my ASC/Pluto conj her Valentine/Pluto - female friend
my Sun/Pluto conj her Valentine - female friend
my MC conj her Valentine - maternal grandmother
my Valentine conj her POF - paternal grandmother

I'm rooting for this Valentine + Moon...;}

posted October 02, 2014 03:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Thanks Athene.

iQ said birth on a full Moon signifies a powerful Soul .

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posted October 02, 2014 03:53 AM            

And part of a larger stellium, which involves my name asteroid.

The actual (natal, 7H) stellium:

REQUIEM (17º)
MELETE (18º)
ANTEROS (18º)
VALENTINE (19º)
MADHATTER (19º)

17-19º GEM.

posted October 02, 2014 04:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I still wonder what on earth VALENTINE conjunct MADHATTER means. Exact, of course.

And part of a larger stellium, which involves my name asteroid.

The actual (natal, 7H) stellium:

REQUIEM (17º)
MELETE (18º)
ANTEROS (18º)
VALENTINE (19º)
MADHATTER (19º)

17-19º GEM.

Any clues at all? This one's always baffled me just a bit.

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posted October 02, 2014 04:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Really? I thought it obvious. You're partial to the mentally unbalanced, you feel like you can bring them peace and balance, and you just can't help yourself feeling something for them. You naturally respond to the quirky, and honestly, it gets you into lots of trouble.

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Heh. While my VALENTINE is opposite his stellium, 2° and 4° depending, (it's a bit wide), that's his stellium. Now, natally, my VALENTINE is square my MADHATTER, at 3°. His is conjunct by 0°. Both hard aspects, but his is much closer.

posted October 02, 2014 05:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Heh. While my VALENTINE is opposite his stellium, 2° and 4° depending, (it's a bit wide), that's his stellium. Now, natally, my VALENTINE is square my MADHATTER, at 3°. His is conjunct by 0°. Both hard aspects, but his is much closer.

The fact he has that stellium is what has always puzzled me. I'm not entirely sure how to interpret it. 7H, too. It's all disposited by his 8H MERC, too.

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posted October 02, 2014 08:17 PM            

I've got to say, for me, it felt even more oddly personal; the odd combination of REQUIEM ('a cessation of struggle, point of acceptance') with ANTEROS ('love returned, or love avenged') my name asteroid, MELETE, (or just the muse of contemplation?) then MADHATTER and VALENTINE.

posted October 03, 2014 01:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Interesting interpretation, BW. Thank you.

I've got to say, for me, it felt even more oddly personal; the odd combination of REQUIEM ('a cessation of struggle, point of acceptance') with ANTEROS ('love returned, or love avenged') my name asteroid, MELETE, (or just the muse of contemplation?) then MADHATTER and VALENTINE.

I suppose the thing is, do we consider it a 'name' asteroid, too?

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I would say yes. Names are power, and when our names have meaning, we are imbued with some or all of the traits of that meaning.

Despite my gripes about the choice, in my case, it lends a propensity toward forgiveness of others for their errs, optimistic belief that people can improve themselves and overcome their past, general faith in humanity and the power of love and positivity, sometimes even an obligatory sense of self-sacrifice for the greater good. My name, despite the overtone of it, is actually loaded with a lot of energy and expectation. On the downside, I have to be cautious of imposing my beliefs on others, being a sheep, or running blind.