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Fionapineapple
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posted August 29, 2014 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere that the anti vertex is what we bring to people so if someone has Kaali conjunct my anti vertex am I giving back kundalini energy or awakening it? I feel this person doesn't have a good sense of self (saturn in Aries) but would this be a positive aspect? His Dejanira is their too :/

My Kaali/Chiron opposite their Sun/Siva
(IQ once described this aspect as having a strong personality that made the other person suppress their kundalini energy in a previous life)

His Anti-Vertex conjunct my Saturn/Lilith

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posted August 29, 2014 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way I understand Kaali, if your Kaali conjuncts someone's personal planet it could feel they drain your life force energy. Like Moon conjunct your Kaali, you might feel emotionally drained around them.

So conjunct the anti-vertex you could give them a boost of life force energy, but it's going to be felt on a deep level, spiritual level so it might not be immediately seen or appreciated.
The anti-vertex is something like your AC, in the same way the AC is your physical appearance the Anti-Vertex is to your soul, anti-vertex is how your soul displays itself.
So if the anti-vertex person is young and not ready to dig deep and seriously work on finding their soul or their deepest self so they can work inline with that, you might feel drained by them!
The energy your giving out will feel squandered or unappreciated....it is not producing any reward! Your not seeing growth and gaining energy from the joy of seeing them exerting themselves and making progress. This is an aspect for mature ppl!!
If they take your support and energy, using it to become stronger you will not feel as drained. They will be giving some of it back by strengthening the life force energy flowing between you.
I don't know if you could sustain this flow of energy for a long period of time under any circumstances without it physically affecting you. Unless maybe they had a tight Kaali aspect to your personal planet and were feeding you in other areas as you fed them...but in any case this aspect is you being very unselfish, giving, supportive and energizing to the anti-vertex person, it can be rewarding for the Kaali person but also somewhat overwhelming after awhile.

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posted August 29, 2014 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank u so much for the reply but is this energy flow supporting the anti vertex person or Kaali? Around the end it of ur response it got a bit confusing. Just making sure I don't drain anyone lol if I really do have karma with this person where their Kaali was suppressed before I hope as the anti vertex person that I can give it back

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posted August 29, 2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried dating someone who's Venus fell exact on my Kaali...my first thought was YEAH!! This is going to be hot!!
It was at first, but overtime the constant drain of his lack of ability to give me love, instead requiring me to always be supportive and help him find his ability to love became very tiring for me. It's like he needed me reinflate his heart, his belief in himself and his capability to love. He needed my energy to reseasatate and help him see he had stopped feeding himself and believing in himself and his ability to love, he's given up.
I was with him just long enough for him to see that he had become complacent and just accepted himself as a failure in the ability to love.
I left shortly after that because it was just to much all the time, it would be like trying to pull Eeyore the constantly depressed character from Winnie the Pooh out of his funk...impossible! But you can help them become aware of things they have closed down, given up or accepted failure...seeing is the first step to changing it! It's there battle not yours though.

I doubt all Kaali experiences are like this, it depends on the spiritual evolution of the ppl involved, but be careful you might have been brought into this person life to make them aware that they are neglecting a part of themselves...and your life force energy will be pumping that part of them so they feel it again, but it's up to them to pick it up and start feeding it for themselves.

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posted August 29, 2014 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carm76     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Great Post

My husbands Anti-Vertex is conjunct my Venus. I would say we have soul love for eachother.

Kaali conjunct anti-vertex sounds very positive and soul based.

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posted August 29, 2014 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fionapineapple:
Thank u so much for the reply but is this energy flow supporting the anti vertex person or Kaali? Around the end it of ur response it got a bit confusing. Just making sure I don't drain anyone lol if I really do have karma with this person where their Kaali was suppressed before I hope as the anti vertex person that I can give it back

If your the Anti-Vertex person, it's you that will be opened up to a part of you that you have not been giving enough energy to.
If you want the Kaali person to not be drained...then listen intently to what the relationship shows you about yourself. If the relationship makes you realize you've been neglecting your spiritual connection or you really want to become a more spiritual person and be actively involved...don't just say it, actively do something about it. You will have a great support system and friend very wiling to be there for you! If you realize you have been neglecting something but then don't do anything the Kaali person will unconsciously keep giving you their energy, and draining themselves to the point they need to get away so they can reenergize themselves.

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posted August 29, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carm76:

Great Post

My husbands Anti-Vertex is conjunct my Venus. I would say we have soul love for eachother.

Kaali conjunct anti-vertex sounds very positive and soul based.


That's a beautiful aspect!! It shows the way you naturally give love feeds his soul and supports how he wants and needs to see himself at his core. This aspect would hekp him become the person he wants to be.

Kaali would do the same thing except it comes with a warning. Kaali is your actual life force energy, you vitality to move and flow with life! It's similar to Mars in that it feeds your bodies ability to feel strong and ready to go, you need and use it everyday.
Its supply that can be easily depleted, affecting your energy to get up and have the energy to enjoy life and feel ontop of the world.

Of course love can be depleted also if neglected, you get depressed and feel emotionally drained and sad. Draining your Kaali energy happens more acutely and can physically make you so exhausted you feel like your body is to heavy to lift, your just worn out!
If you have ever done Yoga and released blocked area so your Kundalini energy flowed better and suddenly you find yourself with more energy feeling light and ready to go....that is your Kaali energy flowing!!

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posted August 29, 2014 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carm76:

Great Post

My husbands Anti-Vertex is conjunct my Venus. I would say we have soul love for eachother.

Kaali conjunct anti-vertex sounds very positive and soul based.


That's a beautiful aspect!! It shows the way you naturally give love feeds his soul and supports how he wants and needs to see himself at his core. This aspect would hekp him become the person he wants to be.

Kaali would do the same thing except it comes with a warning. Kaali is your actual life force energy, you vitality to move and flow with life! It's similar to Mars in that it feeds your bodies ability to feel strong and ready to go, you need and use it everyday.
Its supply that can be easily depleted, affecting your energy to get up and have the energy to enjoy life and feel ontop of the world.

Of course love can be depleted also if neglected, you get depressed and feel emotionally drained and sad. Draining your Kaali energy happens more acutely and can physically make you so exhausted you feel like your body is to heavy to lift, your just worn out!
If you have ever done Yoga and released blocked area so your Kundalini energy flowed better and suddenly you find yourself with more energy feeling light and ready to go....that is your Kaali energy flowing!!

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posted August 29, 2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luckily I'm already a spiritual person but would oppositions and squares to Kaali have the same affect as the anti vertex conjunction? Because even though his sun opposes my Kaali. My sun squares his Kaali which I figure could create some other type of energy instead of draining it

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I have my Kaali exact square my Saturn.....and it's a tug of war between feeling like taking care of my responsibilities is draining the life fight out of me!! Lol

Kaali is also conjunct Uranus, also square Saturn.....so when I'm feeling overloaded, burdened and like everything is forcing me into a box, hate life and don't even want to get out of bed...doing something creative, off the wall or kind of out there makes me feel better and allows me to accept I have to function within the confines of society and life even though I want to live off the grid in a house built on the mountains with no path to get to it without a helicopter. Lol
My rebellious scorp Uranus is strong because both Kaali and Lilith sit on it....I hate rules! I even hate the fact that when my phone rings I'm EXPECTED to answer it, it's like who are you to tell me to answer my phone, I'll calm you back when I'm good and ready!! Lol

Regularly doing things that are things I just want to do and bucking responsibility for a day, like walking past the dishes knowing I need to do them but refusing to until I'm good n ready helps me feel ok about about HAVInG to be responsible. That's the stress that's created by the square, Kaali exaggerates my need to rebel!

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posted August 29, 2014 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where and what sign is his Kaali and what does it touch in his chart?

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posted August 29, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carm76     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
That's a beautiful aspect!! It shows the way you naturally give love feeds his soul and supports how he wants and needs to see himself at his core. This aspect would hekp him become the person he wants to be.


Your 100% right. Thank you

I have ...
14.43 - DC
14.57 - Kaali
14.59 - Vega

How would Kaali effect or be effected by an Axis and/or Fixed Star?

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posted August 29, 2014 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carm76:
Your 100% right. Thank you

I have ...
14.43 - DC
14.57 - Kaali
14.59 - Vega

How would Kaali effect or be effected by an Axis and/or Fixed Star?



Kaali energy would be very positive with the added energy of the fixed star, it would enhance and hugely strengthen your ability to draw your DC qualities to you, you would give off a strong positive energy attracting what you need in a partner very easily.
Kaali breathes life into your desire and ability to have the relationship you really need to feel whole. Relationships are very important to you they are part of what drives you, they motivate you and make you feel alive.

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posted August 29, 2014 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Kaali is at 23 Sagittarius not much planetary aspects most asteroids that I see giving tight aspects

Kaali conjunct Dejanira (Juno is at 19 Sagittarius idk if that's too wide)
Kaali opposite BML
Kaali trine Vesta, Spirit and DNA

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posted August 29, 2014 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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His Kaali is at 23 Sagittarius not much planetary aspects most asteroids that I see giving tight aspects

Kaali conjunct Dejanira (Juno is at 19 Sagittarius idk if that's too wide)
Kaali opposite BML
Kaali trine Vesta, Spirit and DNA


Dejanira conjunct Kaali, oh that's tough on him!
What house is this in?
Be very careful with his insecurities, this aspect will blow his fears up, he will potentially feel vulnerable when he expresses his faith or expresses what he has learned...he will fear ppl won't accept him possibly or just in general feel he saying to much and will pull back out of fear.
He might want to travel but at the same time have anxiety about it.
All the things related to saggy and the house it's in potentially can cause him to feel insecure and exposing him to getting emotionally hurt in some way.

With your sun square this, your ego could make it hard for you to understand or have empathy for him....please remember his fears/insecurity are valid! This aspect shows something in his life or past life has marked his soul with a fear of being hurt again, help him by being understanding and setting your ego aside and think about what he's feeling. Love him and make him feel secure, let him slowest grow to trust your the place he can go and be safe, your not going to hurt him your going to understand him.

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posted August 29, 2014 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah he is very insecure. And his Kaali is in the second house.
What about his sun opposite my 8th house Kaali/chiron?

My Kaali opposes Uranus
Kaali trine Asc and BML
Kaali trine mercury (which is conjunct his venus DW) hope that helps us lol

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posted August 29, 2014 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Kaali is at 10 cancer

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posted August 29, 2014 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I just wanna make sure there's a possibility I don't hurt this guy I adore him as a person in general lol now I'm really trying to look and see the bigger picture it's helpful that my pallas trines his Kaali/Dejanira?

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2nd house, house of security! Poor guy!
Yes your Pallas will help you be very intuitive to his needs, he will have hard time expressing his needs so he your ability to feel him will be very helpful to him.

Just make sure you never lose sight of the vulnerablity he can't help....his fears are genuine, but it really sounds like you are trying hard to let go of you ego and open your heart to him. He needs that, he needs someone he can trust!

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posted August 29, 2014 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's Kaali in cancer 8th house?

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posted August 30, 2014 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Dejanira at 2 Aquarius in the 3rd house conjunct Venus and Mars?

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posted September 06, 2014 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Kaali in the 12th house conjunct my 12th house cusp?All of this in cancer.

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