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The Observer
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posted September 01, 2014 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Watsup everybody

Ive just started getting into asteroids and i came across something pretty interesting. I wanted to know how prominent the muse asteroids were in the charts of MUSEicians, so I pulled up a few lists of "greatest musicians of all time" and started seeing what i can find.
All of artists had muses aspecting significant angles or planets in the chart buut one muse stood out by far, and that was Polyhymnia. This is what I found:


Michael Jackson- Polyhymnia conj Sun (exact) conj Pluto (4orb) conj Descendant (2orb)
Madonna- Polyhymnia conj Asc (exact) conj Pluto (1orb) conj Mercury (3orb) sextile Neptune (exact)
Elton John- Polyhymnia (exact) conj IC (2orb) opp Chiron (exact) sextile mercury (2orb) trine Asc (exact)
Miles Davis- Polyhymnia conj Desc (exact) opposite Mercury (exact) con Saturn (exact) conj Moon (3orb)
Whitney Houston- Polyhymnia conj Desc (exact) conj Uranus (1orb) conj Mercury (5orb)
Frank Sinatra- Polyhymnia conj Asc (2orb) sextile Mars (1orb) trine Pluto (4orb)
Tupac Shakur- Polyhymnia conj Saturn (exact) trine Pluto (3orb) conj Venus (5orb) [No Birth Time]
Eric Clapton- Polyhymnia conj Asc (exact) opposite Mercury (exact)
James Brown- Polyhymnia sextile Mars (exact) trine N Node (1orb)
Steven Tyler- Polyhymnia conj Vertex (exact) sextile Venus (2orb)
Kurt Cobain- Polyhymnia conj MC (exact) square Pluto (exact) square Mercury(exact) square Chiron (exact)
John Lennon- Polyhymnia conj Mercury (1orb) conj Descendant (5orb)
Robert Plant- Polyhymnia conj Saturn (2orb) conj Sun (3orb) sextile Mars (2orb)
Sam Cooke- Polyhymnia sextile Sun (exact)
Johnny Cash- Polyhymnia conj Sun (4orb) conj Mercury (4orb) trine Moon (4orb) opposite Neptune (4orb)
Bob Dylan- Polyhymnia opp Chiron (exact)
Elvis Presley- Polyhymnia conj Mars (3 orb)
Patti Smith- Polyhymnia conj Moon (2orb) trine Mercury (2orb)
Jimmy Hendrix- Polyhymnia conj Jupiter (3orb)
Ray Charles- Polyhymnia conj Moon (4orb)
Bob Marley- Polyhymnia trine Saturn (3orb)
Buddy Holly- Polyhymnia conjunct N Node (3orb) sextile Lilith (exact)
Stevie Wonder- Polyhymnia trine Uranus (3orb) trine Saturn (4orb) [Loose grand trine]
Bruce Springsteen- Polyhymnia conj Sun (5orb) sextile Chiron (exact)
Prince- Polyhymnia conj Uranus (5orb) sextile Sun (2orb)
Neil Young- Polyhymnia trine Saturn (2orb) conj Sun (6orb)
Janis Joplin- Polyhymnia conj Moon (3orb)
John Lennon- Polyhymnia trine Vertex (exact) conj Saturn (4orb) sextile Chiron (3orb)
Billy Joel- Polyhymnia trine Mars (exact)


I ran through them pretty quickly and only looked for the obvious aspects. Polyhymnia showed up in 9/10 of their charts. Anybody have any info on this asteroid???

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I'm so cappy
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posted September 01, 2014 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to LL!
Thanks for sharing. I'd like to try to make music someday and I have Polyhymnia-Pluto-Vertex axis grand cross, all exact.

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Catalina
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posted September 01, 2014 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure 4* is really significant with asteroids ...especially with the slower planets...

But it conj my Ceres exact which trines Jupiter by 2*...which pulls it into trine-by-association perhaps with my IC which is trine jupiter by 2 and ceres by 4...

Ceres is a bit of a cross at this point between "minor" planet and asteroid...astronomers call her a dwarf planet these days like Pluto. .

My father was a musician w his sun on my IC...And I have been both amateur and professional musician myself.

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Sunnya
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posted September 01, 2014 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is very interesting. Thank you.

I have it in the 5th house trining Mercury and quincunx ASC.
I play the fiddle.

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted September 01, 2014 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Singer-songwriter since childhood, still growing in adulthood. I play piano/keyboard.
Both parents musicians, plus auntie & uncle.

Polyhymnia (33) conj. NN;
opp. Venus;
sext. Moon;
wide conj. MC
EXACT conj. Nessus (almost everything I write is coloured with abusive experience - it's how I have processed a lot of my pain)

Piani (10573) opp. MC

Cool thread, thank you.

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Randall
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posted September 01, 2014 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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Catalina
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posted September 01, 2014 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well there's no guitar asteroid but there is guettard...which I have conj gc (self taught thru intuition/inspiration and experiment)
and piani is exact conj my dc (started playing in my dads lap @ around two)

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted September 01, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
Well there's no guitar asteroid but there is guettard...which I have conj gc (self taught thru intuition/inspiration and experiment)
and piani is exact conj my dc (started playing in my dads lap @ around two)

That's really cool about Piani.
I saw another member on LL made a thread about it being prominent in their chart and that of other pianists.

Asteroids are really fascinating!

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mirage29
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posted September 01, 2014 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hellooo to you, The Observer!

I looked up the charts for each celebrity you've mentioned (but didn't check asteroids). I was ready to post astro dot com biog-urls but ran out of time today. I'd be willing to post the {LIST} here if anyone would like?

I go research-crazy sometimes and I'm astounded at what I've found today. So surreal!...


"Guitar asteroid?" How about asteroid
Gibson 2742

I've got stories about my Polyhymnia, and Piani! wow, thanks.

Add these too~~ Melpomene 18 (voice, theatre) and Euterpe 27 (giver of delight through music)

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Catalina
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posted September 02, 2014 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good one mirage! I thought of gibson but it reminds me of a particularly obnoxious teacher lol so I went for the whole range. Guetard in a french accent sounds so like it I just ran with it.

I'd forgotten euterpe
then there is Kalliope (22) the chief muse of poetry and song

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The Observer
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posted September 03, 2014 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Catalina:
[B]Not sure 4* is really significant with asteroids ...especially with the slower planets...

I disagree, if I check 50 charts and it's within 7 degrees in 50 of them it's still pretty trippy. I found a few consistent patterns with orbs like those. I find that a lot with aspects of all types', especially complete shapes being consistent in charts but some aspects being a bit wide.

Some other things i saw were a lot of Sappho and lilith aspects

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ail221
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posted September 03, 2014 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting I have this asteroid
Square Mercury 1
Trine Neptune 1
Opposite asteroid Talent exact

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Catalina
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posted September 03, 2014 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Observer thanks for that...I have been being extremely cautious calling some contacts conjunctions because the given wisdom is that asteroid orbs need to be v tight.

But that puts my namesake Hekate on my MC (orb 4.5) which makes perfect sense to me! Also other significant asteroids that seemed evident observationally but not in theory.

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The Observer
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posted September 03, 2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
Well Observer thanks for that...I have been being extremely cautious calling some contacts conjunctions because the given wisdom is that asteroid orbs need to be v tight.

But that puts my namesake Hekate on my MC (orb 4.5) which makes perfect sense to me! Also other significant asteroids that seemed evident observationally but not in theory.


Run with it Catalina. I like to fit astrology into how I perceive my reality as whole, and not the other way around. For a few years it was like tryna fit my foot in a shoe that's too small. The way I see it is that all these bodies In The cosmos are inside of us, as above so below, that way everything becomes important. The more attuned you are to yourself the more you can feel he more subtle aspects. Even it's something's at 161 degrees' it will always be in a relationship with every other body out there, these labels of aspect kinda box it in and. Give a false image of what's really going down. Labels are deceiving like that.
Like Ceres for example. I think everything nasa shows us about it (about mostly everything lol) is a lie. If it is what I think it is, then the role it plays within us makes it as important as a personal planet to me. How would we know if the moon of a random planet was responsible for a random energy within us if we were in the confines of these minor details. We're shutting a lot of possibilities.
From what I learned when your dealing with 360 degrees your dealing with a disc. When we're looking at a chart we're literally running a disc in our brain, and to extract all of the information on it we have to use our complete mind not just our conscious one, and one of the conduits our minds speaks to us through is imagination. So intuition and dreams become a part of this whole thing now cus that's when you really begin to play the disc you know what I mean.
Trust me, I always go with consistinency, and the orbs I see coming up all the time just reinforce that astrology isn't a cold left brained science. Gotta be whole.

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The Observer
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posted September 03, 2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's when astrology starts to serve your world, and everything starts to help you solve your chart hahahaa

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Catalina
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posted September 03, 2014 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tho not considering it "officially" I have always identified w it as a conjunction...and having Viviane exactly conj IC have always considered the meridian axis a matching pair (well since starting w asteroids some 6 years ago)...the two sides of my sorceress/priestess energy.

But that is another thread lol

Totally agree about ceres

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posted September 03, 2014 06:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, when the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints go marching in
Lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the drums begin to bang
Oh, when the drums begin to bang
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the stars fall from the sky
Oh, when the stars fall from the sky
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the moon turns red with blood
Oh, when the moon turns red with blood
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the trumpet sounds its call
Oh, when the trumpet sounds its call
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the fire begins to blaze
Oh, when the fire begins to blaze
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints go marching in
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in.
Oh Lord!

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Catalina
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posted September 03, 2014 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry rajii don't get the relevance...?

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posted September 03, 2014 11:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was a dedication for the thread.

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The Observer
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posted September 10, 2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rajji:
Oh, when the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints go marching in
Lord I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the drums begin to bang
Oh, when the drums begin to bang
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the stars fall from the sky
Oh, when the stars fall from the sky
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the moon turns red with blood
Oh, when the moon turns red with blood
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the trumpet sounds its call
Oh, when the trumpet sounds its call
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the fire begins to blaze
Oh, when the fire begins to blaze
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints go marching in
I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in.
Oh Lord!


Wow great addition to the thread!!!

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The Observer
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posted September 10, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey IQ i just saw your threat on mind control and dark asteroids, thats amazing work man. Love threads like those thats what astrologys about. I checked where those asteroids were in my chart and i would like to know your input:

Siva conj Ascendant Gemini 28 deg(1ob)
Anubis conj South Node Gemini 25 deg (2orb)
Posiedon conj Moon Aquarius 25 deg (1orb)
Rudra conj IC Virgo 2 deg (1orb)
Parvati conj IC Virgo 2 deg (1orb)
DNA conj IC Virgo 2 deg (1orb)

and

Hekate conj Lucifer Leo 6 degrees, and thats trine Kaali 6 degrees Sagittarius. The closest planet is Mercury at 9 Leo.


Anubis conj South Node and Posiedon conj Moon also trine pluto at 24 libra

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