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ail221
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posted September 04, 2014 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever felt drawn to the Trojan War well see if there are any asteroid connections.

Pre-cursor to the War: The Judgement of Paris
103 Hera
881 Athena
1388 Aphrodite


Achaeans and allies

· 911 Agamemnon King of Argos
· 588 Achilles Famed Warrior
· 101 Helen: Wife of Menelaus Lover of Paris
· 1647 Menelaus King of Sparta
· 659 Nestor Argonaut; the King of Pylos and Chloris
· 1143 Odysseus King of Ithaca
· 1404 Ajax "Ajax the Great"
· 1437 Diomedes One of the Best Warriors besides Ajax becomes King of Argos later on in life
· 617 Patroclus Close friend of Achilles
· 1868 Thersites Greek Soldier

Trojans and allies
· 884 Priam King of Troy
· 108 Hecuba Queen of Troy
· 624 Hector First Born Trojan Prince, the best warrior of Troy
· 3317 Paris Lover of Helen, Prince of Troy, kills Achilles
· 114 Cassandra Princess of Troy daughter of Priam and Hecuba, gifted with prophecy
· 175 Andromache Wife of Hector
· 1172 Aeneas Trojan hero, the son of the prince Anchises and the goddess Venus (Aphrodite
· 2895 Memnon Ethiopian king and son of Tithonus and Eos.
· 1208 Troilus Prince of Troy, killed by Achilles
· 655 Brisesi Princess of Lyrnessus caught in-between a feud between Achilles and Agamemnon;a prize to both men
· 271 Penthesilea Queen of the Amazons; killed by Achilles
· 2223 Sarpedon Killed by the Greek warrior Patroclus

911,588,101,1647,659,1143,1404,1437,617,1868,884,108,624,3317,114,175,1172,2895,1208,655,271,2223

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posted September 05, 2014 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the female leads from the movie "Troy" Diane Kruger who plays Helen has a Paris and Helena conjunction in her chart with Pluto opposing her Paris.

To add: a Priam and Patroclus conjunction
Venus/Saturn conjunction with Agammemmon
Sun conjunct Hektor
Mercury conjunct Achilles/Menealus
Hecuba conjunct Jupiter

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posted September 05, 2014 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brad Pitt who plays Achilles

Helena/Patroclus/Priam conjunction
Saturn/Paris/Briseis conjunction
Sun opposite Hektor/Menealus
Agammemmon conjunct Nn
Achilles conjunct Descendant

Orlando Bloom Paris

Paris/helena conjunct wide 7 orbs in 1st
Priam/patroclus conjunct in 1st

Hektor conjunct dsc 4
Hektor/Saturn/Achilles conjunction

Menealus opposite sun wide
Briseis conjunct NN
Agammemmon quincunx Paris

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Astro keen
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posted September 05, 2014 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ail, thanks for this really interesting topic.

The Aenied, which relates the adventures of Prince Aeneas as he flees burning Troy, was my favourite book as a child. I found it enchanting. Great to check related asteroids:

The most prominent in my natal is Thersites, amongst many others.

Sun - Sco 1.35
Thersites - Sco 1,39
Ajax - Sco 2.35

Thersites apparently was a free speech hero, the first of his kind.

"Thersites, the only common soldier mentioned by Homer in the Iliad, must have been an extraordinary man, for he had the guts to tell his comrades, their king Agamemnon and his officers, that they had been sent on a fool's errand, chasing after a silly twit named Helen who ran off with young Paris................ And for his pains Thersites was savagely beaten by Odysseus, killed by Achilles, and portrayed by the aristophile Homer in the most calculated, cruel and derisive manner, all for telling the simple truth. " http://www.networkcentralca.net/thersites.htm

"Homer shows a distinct class bias in his very description of Thersites." He represented his as a vile and repulsive man, one who, despite his class, dared to challenge the nobility.

I must admit I am rather pleased to have Thersites on my Sun. I can see how this might apply to me as I've often spoken out or challenged authority. Innumerable times. I was always the person who stepped forward to bell the cat, so to speak, and, fortunately, this trait was put to some practical use as I worked to promote minority rights.

Agamemnon/Menelaus/Achilles/Hera conjunction in 3rd house Libra (24 to 26 degrees -lotsa kings!!?)
Hera is at my Mars/Venus midpoint.
Aneas conjunct SN (1)
Paris conjunct Troilus (0) trine Sun/Tersites (0)
Nestor conjunct Mercury (0)

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posted September 05, 2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad you enjoy the topic!

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posted September 05, 2014 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have cluster of these asteroids in my chart.

Hektor/Achilles/Agammemmon/Hecuba in 5th conjunct each other with 2 orbs squaring my Venus (love is a battlefield) but trine my Moon.

Sun conjunct Helena
Moon/Asc conjunct Briseis/Priam
Patroclus conjunct Paris

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posted September 06, 2014 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct Helena!!! That I can believe .

I've just noticed that the bad guys (the Greeks) or the anti-Trojans are grouped together at 25 Leo in my natal, whilst the good guys (Greek challengers) are aspecting the Sun. Interesting!

I wonder if 25 Leo is a point that presents a key challenge.
Sabian - A LARGE CAMEL IS SEEN CROSSING A VAST AND FORBIDDING DESERT.
KEYNOTE: Self-sufficiency in the face of a long and exhausting adventure.
The suggestion here is that in order to be released from bondage to the "old world" we should be completely self-contained emotionally. So the call for independence is paramount.

Wow! I think this resonates very much with the great challenge in my life.

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