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posted October 03, 2014 09:14 PM            

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I know it sounds scary. I really would be happy if someone could shed some light into this aspect, it's very tight. (less than 1 degree)

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posted October 03, 2014 09:37 PM            

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I think the person would find herself victimized and not know why. I think it would be a pattern and not her fault.

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posted October 03, 2014 10:05 PM            

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Well, that person is me, I have down times ok but really don't feel that victimized.

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posted October 03, 2014 10:13 PM            

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Do you ever feel as if others are overprotective around you? That, perhaps, you're seen as less capable than you are? It's generally agreed that DEJANIRA is a 'victimhood' influence, and where we face those themes.

Man. What's it with all the DEJA threads? Something's in the air.

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posted October 03, 2014 10:27 PM            

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lol I saw other threads, got jealous looked for my dejanira and now having my share of the panic

People... when they first get to know me, they are very protective. Whenever something bad happens to me in public a stupid argument or a harasser etc. some hero pops up and saves me.
or they just think I'm an incapable idiot. But I survived many bad stuff and I think I did good job on saving my ass.

So my theory; Since ascendant is how we look like for others, until they really get to know me, people think I'm a poor victim. What would you think?

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posted October 08, 2014 04:12 AM            

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what about dejanira square asc? would this indicate any first impressions of victimhood like a conjunction would? i also just found mine in my natal chart, and it's conj child, which indicates abuse?

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posted October 08, 2014 02:46 PM            

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ummm.. since IC is your inner self maybe you tend to victimize yourself or internalized a kind of victim role hmm?

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posted October 09, 2014 11:31 PM            

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My mother has this natally, Dej in her 12th House though.

She LOVES victim scenarios, actually she has made this part of her work in life. She was abused by my father when I was young (surprisingly, her Dej conj his Sun).

After they divorced she went to seminary and is now a minister (has been for almost 17 years). So it was a catalyst for a major part of her work in life.

I notice though, she has a pattern of ATTRACTING victim situations. As though the victim aura is about her. She also loves to rescue people. I have learned I have to be VERY careful about what I call her about for advice, because "victimhood" colors everything for her. I would definitely say she plays the victim card ALWAYS. For example, she and my dad divorced almost 25 years ago, but you bring it up and HERE GOES THE VICTIM (I say that with love, but it gets old for my sister and I - LONG story). She has a hard time letting go of the "victim", it is a part of her personality.

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